Adam Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 And a mystery component. Ideas? Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 And a mystery component. Ideas? Object.gif Adam Speedo - cut off most of the bit you're holding, behind the curve bit, (the flexible cable). Drill a hole in the footplate to take the spigot of the five-sided plate. Solder or glue the spigot into the hole, having adjusted the curved cable so that the disc at its end lies directly over the axle of the rear driving wheel. Simples !! Regards, John Isherwood. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 Hole in one John. Sadly not a steam prototype, but a Warship, D824 Highflyer. I wonder whether the new Bachmann NBL Warship will have this? A bit of a fiddle but good fun to do. I think the wheels are ready for paint now. Adam 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 24, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2015 Hole in one John. Sadly not a steam prototype, but a Warship, D824 Highflyer. Highflyer5.gif I wonder whether the new Bachmann NBL Warship will have this? A bit of a fiddle but good fun to do. I think the wheels are ready for paint now. Adam Thought you'd moved into jewellery in my absence abroad Adam!! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 Following on from the last update, Highflyer has received a coat of paint around its nether regions and I've completed the glazing. More weathering, and some touching up and it will be ready for the road. In the meantime, while the civil engineer (the good Colonel, H.F. Stephens), wasn't looking, it had a quick spin on Clevedon WC&P last week. Thanks Andrew. The pair of Coil R have had a small amount of work in the form of minute etched bits and little bits of wire. This really fiddly detail completed, it will be brakegear next. Adam 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 1, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 1, 2015 Following on from the last update, Highflyer has received a coat of paint around its nether regions and I've completed the glazing. More weathering, and some touching up and it will be ready for the road. In the meantime, while the civil engineer (the good Colonel, H.F. Stephens), wasn't looking, it had a quick spin on Clevedon WC&P last week. Thanks Andrew. Highflyer_on_Clevedon.gif The pair of Coil R have had a small amount of work in the form of minute etched bits and little bits of wire. This really fiddly detail completed, it will be brakegear next. Coil_R_7.gif Coil_R_8.gif Adam Looks worryingly like you are going to use the Cambrian bogies Adam? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) For want of a better alternative, Mike, yes the Cambrian Davis and Lloyd type. With a bit of reshaping and some amended spring plank detail they'll do.Do you know of anything better?Adam Edited March 1, 2015 by Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 2, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2015 For want of a better alternative, Mike, yes the Cambrian Davis and Lloyd type. With a bit of reshaping and some amended spring plank detail they'll do. Do you know of anything better? Adam Agreed, but too much like hard work, and the axleboxes aren't equidistant, so they can only be fitted one way round to avoid fouling Justin's underframe. I'm in the process of sending off for some 4B07 bogies from John Talbot, interestingly listed as Gloucester, to see what they are like. You could always join me in badgering Colin Craig, I need 40 pairs at least, they are in his pending tray. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 Agreed, but too much like hard work, and the axleboxes aren't equidistant, so they can only be fitted one way round to avoid fouling Justin's underframe. I'm in the process of sending off for some 4B07 bogies from John Talbot, interestingly listed as Gloucester, to see what they are like. You could always join me in badgering Colin Craig, I need 40 pairs at least, they are in his pending tray. Mike. You mean that the bogie isn't symmetrical about the pivot? The bearings certainly appear equidistant from each other! The reshaping is fairly straightforward with a big enough file. I'll take a picture when I get home but the tops, as supplied, are rather flat so get tapered at the ends (the tops of the cutouts should be parallel to the tops of the bogies) and the outer corners a bit more rounded. I do have a set of the AME bogies on order (along with a few other bits) so it will be interesting to see whether they really are Gloucester bogies and thus wrong for a Bobol E or just mis-described Davis and Lloyd types. I will find a use for them one way or another, but probably not on these wagons. Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 2, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2015 That's probably what I mean!, but they only fit one way round, at least on the ones I had to try. Interestingly, Colin has been known to call them ESC bogies! Be interested in your observations about the AME ones. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 That's probably what I mean!, but they only fit one way round, at least on the ones I had to try. Interestingly, Colin has been known to call them ESC bogies! Be interested in your observations about the AME ones. Mike. I thought the Gloucester and ESC bogies that AME did were the types used on things like 100t tankers and Sheerness Scrap wagons? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 2, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2015 I thought the Gloucester and ESC bogies that AME did were the types used on things like 100t tankers and Sheerness Scrap wagons? According to his catalogue 4B07 are stated to be for Turbot/Bogie bolster E. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 According to his catalogue 4B07 are stated to be for Turbot/Bogie bolster E. Mike. Absolutely, but confusingly, they are also dubbed 'Gloucester'. The 5' 6" Gloucester bogie looks like this: http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/bogies/h32572f7b#h32572f7b The Davis and Lloyd/ESC 'Ride Control' looks like this (similar, but shallower in overall height): http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/bogies/h24bdd201#h24bdd201 I haven't, knowingly, seen this particular AME casting so I'm unsure which one it represents: whatever, one part or another of the description is wrong! Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 3, 2015 Author Share Posted March 3, 2015 Just for the record, a package from John Talbot/AME appeared in yesterday's post and I can confirm that the bogies are the Davis and Lloyd type suitable for Bobol Es and variations. I haven't had a chance to take a picture but the castings are nice and clean if perhaps lacking some fine detail, they're plenty good enough to be employed in the next wagon I build that requires these bogies but since these coil Rs will operate as a pair they should match and that means making the Cambrian bogies work. Also in the package were some plate frame, roller bearing bogies and some buffers for ferry vehicles which you may take as an indication of future projects. Anyhow, what you need to see is this: http://www.emgauge70s.co.uk/model_omwb106.htmlthe latest update from Kier Hardy, Pete Johnson and co. Canada Street looks utterly fabulous. Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 3, 2015 Author Share Posted March 3, 2015 Just for reference, below is a picture of the Appleby Model Engineering (AME) 4B07 bogie we've discussed above which I reckon is quite a reasonable representation of a Davis and Lloyd/ESC 'ride control' freight bogie. Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 3, 2015 Author Share Posted March 3, 2015 A couple of satisfying evenings have resulted in full sets of brake rigging being added to the Coil Rs. Quite fiddly, to be honest, and the brake pull rods in particular benefited from pre-assembling the linkages but the end result is worth it. Levers and a bit of solebar detailing to go and then I can get back to the above solebar detail. Adam 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 8, 2015 Author Share Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) Soldering done on the Coil Rs, work turns to plastic fabrications and rivets, well, boltheads really, just a handful, Bobol Es were mostly welded with very few visible fixings. While at it, the Chas Roberts mineral - smaller wagon with many more rivets - has made a leap forward. I've only done the one side, as yet, but before I get on with the other the fumes must subside. The rivet heads on the (brass) ironwork are tacked on using cyano' and the handwheels poking out of the top, I'm afraid, reflect two half-done projects. The mineral is one, of course, but, being incomplete, it's currently being used as a storage container... Adam Edited March 8, 2015 by Adam 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) Perhaps the differences aren't wholly appreciable, but in construction terms, at least, it is finished. It may be warm enough for primer. Adam Edited March 19, 2015 by Adam 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 18, 2015 Author Share Posted March 18, 2015 And now for something completely different, a new Cambrian kit for a Herring, a GW-designed, but mostly contractor-built small ballast hopper. I see that Jim Smith Wright has done one already and as his example shows, it builds up quite nicely. That won't stop me making a few amendments for the sake of finesse and durability, however. The first set of modifications concern the main part of the hopper. I've trimmed off the moulding flash and the representation of the corner reinforcement from the sides only. These will be replaced with 5 thou' later. I also took the opportunity to fill the moulded holes for the grab rails and will reinstate them when the time comes. The one-piece chassis moulding which takes the traditional "can I build this square?" question that Cambrian hopper kits have traditionally posed and with the hopper body on chassis future modifications are on the horizon. The offset vee-hangers at the ends for the vac' brake gear will be replaced in brass sheet and the other larger vees may yet follow: I've had to rebuild one already. The brake levers certainly will be replaced in brass. Were I intent of batch or rake building, an etch would definitely be called for but as a one off, I'm happy to fret something out. Because I rather like the upright vac' pipes some of these had, mine will too. A Paul Bartlett picture shows what I mean: http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brherring/h193152ea#h176a8e8b For some useful prototype pictures and links to more, including those on Paul Bartlett's site, see here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/94889-cambrian-kits-gwr-p22-herring-ballast-wagon/ Adam 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ullypug Posted March 18, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2015 Look forward to seeing how this develops. I bought two of these at the weekend and reckon I'll have a few more yet since Cheddar was a stone loading point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) In which case Andrew, you'll be pleased to hear that the bits go together nicely. A few minor details added. I've replaced the etched tiebars supplied with 0.8mm angle, for additional durability. The etched worksplates were spares from the Rumney chassis kits I've been building and the axleboxes came out of the packet though I have squared them up (they come off the sprue in a rather trapezoid form as an aid to extracting them from the mould no doubt). Adam Edited March 20, 2015 by Adam 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 21, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2015 Have fun with the end gussets Adam! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) Have fun with the end gussets Adam! Mike. They're far too thick: I'll be replacing them. But yes, I see what you mean - for the benefit of everyone else - the angle doesn't match that of the hopper, at least, not at one end... Adam Edited March 21, 2015 by Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 At least you managed to find one to buy..................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) At least you managed to find one to buy..................... Not easy finding Cambrian stockists online (actually with stock) is it? Anyhow, while some solvent goes off on the 5 thou work on the Herring, the Chas Roberts mineral has made primer and another little project, a bargain Hornby shunter's truck in for a little detailing before the repaint it needs. Vac' pipes added and inner vees fretted out of sheet. Need to find a replacement buffer head from somewhere... Adam Edited March 21, 2015 by Adam 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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