workev2000 Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Andy, Can you have a diorama that is 20" x 11" and 20" high? Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share Posted May 22, 2011 Nope; sorry. If you want it 20" high it can only be 11" x 11". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
workev2000 Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Ok, thats another idea out the window....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted May 22, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 22, 2011 Only if they were two separate entries as you'd be exceeding the 20" to display the diorama. Unless you model in T How to maximise the run in such a small space? Now just working on the corkscrew track to turn it over in the tunnel 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scanman Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Andy Focussing on the word 'diorama', I'm tempted along the lines of the ideas of Jack Nelson in the early 70's... These were perspective dioramas based on scenes from the LNWR. Due to the 'perspective' aspect of the idea, track which started off at 'OO' tended to narrow to 'N' or even reach the 'vanishing point'. This obviously has serious implications for operation! Is this within the rules??? I.E. does the diorama have to be a working layout section? Regs Ian B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 After some contemplating, I've decided to join in! After all, I didn't get too far last year with "Flixborough Exchange sidings" so I thought why not build something for Flixborough? This challenge is so much smaller, if I get nowhere with this - you all have permission to call me "armchair"!!!! Will be opening my thread shortly! Cheers, John E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted May 23, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2011 Another clarification please : Can any element on the diorama extend higher han the 11" backscene, for example a tree or a chimney ? Ta Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted May 23, 2011 Author Share Posted May 23, 2011 Technically no; would it be possible to make a chimney sectional for example so it can fit within it? I know that may sound harsh but most of the questions in here have been how to get around any limits and if I relax in one way it could mean someone being a little bit more liberal than another which may secure some advantage which would be unfair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted May 23, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2011 That's fair comment - I can make the necessary adjustments to keep withing the height limit. Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted May 23, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2011 This obviously has serious implications for operation! Is this within the rules??? I.E. does the diorama have to be a working layout section? Ian No it says in earlier posts it's a diorama, Andy aimed it so it wasn't another layout challenge, the only criteria are the size and it must be railway related. (a diorama may have working parts but not essential) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted May 23, 2011 Author Share Posted May 23, 2011 Focussing on the word 'diorama', I'm tempted along the lines of the ideas of Jack Nelson in the early 70's... These were perspective dioramas based on scenes from the LNWR. Due to the 'perspective' aspect of the idea, track which started off at 'OO' tended to narrow to 'N' or even reach the 'vanishing point'. This obviously has serious implications for operation! Is this within the rules??? I.E. does the diorama have to be a working layout section? Sorry; I'd missed that. That's perfectly permissible but there'd be bags of bonus points for making that operate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted May 23, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2011 there'd be bags of bonus points for making that operate! hmmm springs between the wheels and and sensors to inflate the locos . . . . my BOLD from the first post The diorama should be railway related and could represent a cameo of small detail in a large scale through to the foyer of a major terminus, imagination and creativity is the key. Your model can be static or operational and is not limited by any geographical or era boundaries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scanman Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Sorry; I'd missed that. That's perfectly permissible but there'd be bags of bonus points for making that operate! hmmm springs between the wheels and and sensors to inflate the locos . . . . my BOLD from the first post Cheers folks - RTFT (Read the Flippin' Topic) comes to mind... My only excuse - it was late & I was at work... Regs Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Hi, Is it OK to used all ready made buildings from other layouts that one might have to hand? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 No reason why not Stuart. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etched Pixels Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 So can it be slightly longer and wider providing its lower so that if you stuffed it into the 20x11x11 at an angle it would fit ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 Noooo, the maximum base size is 20" x 11" unless you want your layout to perform on a 1 in 4 incline? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 ...unless you want your layout to perform on a 1 in 4 incline? Cue several proposals for rack railways? Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombe Barton Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Cue several proposals for rack railways? Or even steeper - 862 ft of track - 500 ft drop - http://www.cliffrailwaylynton.co.uk/ Or 201 ft track and 111 ft drop - http://www.bridgnorthcliffrailway.co.uk/technical-the-track.html Or 8ft track and a half kilometre drop - second pic down on http://www.geevor.com/index.php?page=72 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etched Pixels Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 No I was thinking of putting the 20x11x11 cube at an angle and the layout flat 8) I was pondering rack stuff actually as a good way to use the space, and T scale mechanisms will climb 1 in 4 8) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixteen 12by 10s Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Hi Just a query, and It might sound silly. The 11†hight rule, where is it measure from, the trackbed, the lowest scenic feature or the bottom of the baseboard framing? Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 The bottom of the baseboard framing Gary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Heighton Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Count me in! I have a small stash of "OO" left over from when I used to model it, and would love the chance to use it -Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Noooo, the maximum base size is 20" x 11" unless you want your layout to perform on a 1 in 4 incline? Thought it was a diorama so it doesn't have to "perform" just exist in a 20x11x11 space Doesn't even need to have any track or stock - could just be a pub named "The Railwayman" on a very steep Cornish hillside 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted May 24, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2011 could just be a pub named "The Railwayman" on a very steep Cornish hillside Oh no ! That's got me thinking all over again of what I could do..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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