South of 1E Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Recently found some long lost Triang-Hornby? BOC liquid oxygen white model bogie tanks. I have a few memories of a class 81/85 roaring along the WCML with the Widnes - Wembley BOC tanks in tow and a flow from Ipswich before their demise but little else. Any more of those distinctive BOC white tank memories, sadly assume all history now cheers NR www.leightonlogs.org Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted May 27, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2011 There was also a terminal at Wolverhampton, served via the Monmore Green connection, then under the Stour Valley line by the old transit shed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 They also ran from Widnes to Sheffield area via Warrington Bank Quay (Low Level), Latchford, Lymm, Altrincham, Godley, then via Woodhead to Sheffield. Block trains. usually class 40 hauled to Godley, where electrics took over. Ran till the late 70's if I remember correctly. Have a look at the GIF at the bottom of this website main page - one sometimes runs past !! http://www.thewoodheadsite.org.uk/ Brit15 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 There was a rake of these rusted to the rails at Barnetby, may well still be there, they weren't going to roll away! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpb56125 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 There was a rake of these rusted to the rails at Barnetby, may well still be there, they weren't going to roll away! Pictures off those wagons on route from Ditton to Barnetby back in 1997 at http://mark5812.smugmug.com/UKpicturesclassorder/Class-56/16953653_b8N5X9#1281951292_g6X342s-A-LB Mark http://mark5812.smugmug.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdseyecircus Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Yes, they were still at Barnetby last week. Here they are in November 2010 being past by 66066. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Some photographs at various locations here. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/boctank The Norwich photographs show that these could be found in small numbers at local yards, with unloading to specialist road trailers. Useful for modellers. Paul Bartlett 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 These could be seen from time to time at BSC Corby. They arrived into Corby yard and were tripped by BSC engines into the BSC Sidings adjacent to the ERW plant, next to Weldon Rd, probably the closest point to the BOC plant they could reach. I don't know whether they were delivering or loading gas, my guess would be collecting liquid oxygen. BOC road tankers were usually parked alongside but I never took too much notice of them beyond noticing the colourful additions to what was in those days a very dull scene. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishlocos Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Hi all Have some info on these workings many BOC plants were next to the major steelworks Motherwell, Scunthorpe, Middlesbrugh, Sheffield. The way steel is made in the Uk is basic OXYGEN steel - making these works use massive amounts of oxygen and other gases produced by BOC such as argon for welding/cutting steel etc. Liquid Nitrogen is often used in the electronics industry for coating solder in making printed circut boards. regards Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 I remember watching a class 56 screaming up the gradient through Colchester North Station hauling a rake of BOC tankers. The last time I saw any they were heading through Diss behind an EWS class 66 towards Ipswich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 The OP's mention of the Widnes - Wembley BOC job jogged a few happy memories... it used to stop at Rugby on the (now long gone) Up Goods for a crew change and was always one of the highlights for us when it pulled away, whining like b*ggery going up the bank towards Northampton. The Rugby men who took it forward always seemed to be in a hurry to get done as their booking off time was about half an hour before the pubs closed! I've heard of a couple of occasions where they'd arrived at Wembley and backed the tanks in with a bit too much gusto, knocking the stop block down in the process, just to get an early finish... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I remember these very well, I lived just up the line from the depot at North Wembley and always looked out to see if one of these block trains was in the process of being sorted at the sidings. A VIX Ferry van sat in the siding as a barrier vehicle too. IIRC the very overgrown (and disconnected) headshunt remains although the depot has gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
(The) Youth Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Just found this picture which may be of some use http://www.railphotoarchive.org/UIH/uih_v32.php?icb=0129020005000|f||wm_0|3|||j|0| Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg06003 Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 I passed the Barnetby batch just yesterday - they are slowly being reclaimed by nature with saplings growing between, through & under every available gap! A far cry from this... 81 020 passes South Kenton with a northbound rake on 6th July 1984. I'm sure someone on here will be able to identify the working! Bruce 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 81 020 passes South Kenton with a northbound rake on 6th July 1984. I'm sure someone on here will be able to identify the working! Bruce More than likely to be the Wembley-Ditton. Your photo reminded me of one of mine, also from 1984, and quite near South Kenton, possibly from a passing train or maybe from one of the DC lines platforms: (I was aiming for the tank, not the loco!) Am I right in thinking that some of the tanks carried oxygen and others liquid nitrogen? "oxygen" was painted on, but could they be adapted to either gas, depending on requirements? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 More than likely to be the Wembley-Ditton. Your photo reminded me of one of mine, also from 1984, and quite near South Kenton, possibly from a passing train or maybe from one of the DC lines platforms: (I was aiming for the tank, not the loco!) Am I right in thinking that some of the tanks carried oxygen and others liquid nitrogen? "oxygen" was painted on, but could they be adapted to either gas, depending on requirements? The same tanks were used for both products, I believe- I've seen different gross loaded weights quoted depending which they were loaded with. The Ipswich tanks would have had nitrogen aboard, for use in frozen food refrigeration and similar, whilst those to Sheerness would have been carrying oxygen for steelmaking. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 There was a rake of these rusted to the rails at Barnetby, may well still be there, they weren't going to roll away! they were there the other day with trees growing through, didn't take any pictures, but if you google the area you can see them on the sat view. they are being taken away slowly on a truck though now so wont be there much longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I understand these tank wagons were built with a special steel capable of sustaining the large temprature variations etc associated with cryogenic liquid oxygen / nitrogen. This is probably why they were stored and not scrapped, and still have a value and potential future useage hence the sale to India. Pity we have no industry needing their use anymore. Bit more info here http://www.leightonlogs.org/boctanks.htm Brit15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim76 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 When were BOC's VBA barrier vans withdrawn from use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anroar53 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 The Wembley-Widnes working lives on in my N Gauge conversions. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1059 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Some photographs at various locations here. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/boctank The Norwich photographs show that these could be found in small numbers at local yards, with unloading to specialist road trailers. Useful for modellers. Paul Bartlett Always a great reference site Paul Here's one of mine from Norwich showing a typical consist (except the Peak) including one of the BOC tankers Norwich Peak Hauled Freight by Stephen Dance, on Flickr 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bingley hall Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 they were there the other day with trees growing through, didn't take any pictures, but if you google the area you can see them on the sat view. they are being taken away slowly on a truck though now so wont be there much longer. Managed to get one of those moves on 12 March 2013 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Always a great reference site Paul Here's one of mine from Norwich showing a typical consist (except the Peak) including one of the BOC tankers Norwich Peak Hauled Freight by Stephen Dance, on Flickr Norwich was a very interesting yard, which I managed to visit on only a couple of occasions. IIRC it was the only yard where I saw these being individually unloaded but it does show there was no need to model them in block trains. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/boctank/e3326fda5 I wish I had taken photographs of the Charringtons unloading arrangement, which is left foreground. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Hello please excuse my English so so I know new BOC tank wagon from Heljan but real life of BOC tank wagon went to Rotherham Aldwarke of British steel in 1970 between 1990s ? thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Simon Lee Posted June 16, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 16, 2019 23 minutes ago, class37418stag said: Hello please excuse my English so so I know new BOC tank wagon from Heljan but real life of BOC tank wagon went to Rotherham Aldwarke of British steel in 1970 between 1990s ? thank you Andrew, The tanks went to Broughton Lane BOC depot, with the products distributed from there. I believe your a Sheffield lad, the depot was on the site that is now Centertainment. Have a look on this website. https://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/topic/5306-not-a-mystery-location/ HTH Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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