Etched Pixels Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 The acetate ones are old screen printing. For new stuff I cut them with a vinyl cutter on brown vinyl and stick that to clear plastic. 3D printing doesn't work well for it. I tried it early on for some 3D printed coach shells but the thicknesses are a pain so even for those I might print compartments and seat shapes but the corridor is a glue in strip using vinyl/clear plastic. Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellseasoned Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 On 25/10/2019 at 01:07, Etched Pixels said: The acetate ones are old screen printing. For new stuff I cut them with a vinyl cutter on brown vinyl and stick that to clear plastic. 3D printing doesn't work well for it. I tried it early on for some 3D printed coach shells but the thicknesses are a pain so even for those I might print compartments and seat shapes but the corridor is a glue in strip using vinyl/clear plastic. Alan Hello Alan, Thank you for your reply. I bought some vinyl and have made a couple in the way you describe... you explained your method to me a while back. It's doable, but I find it a tad tedious/laborious. This is why I have broached the question of another way of them being produced. Laser cutting of card seems to be popular, would this be an option? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellseasoned Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just tried to have a look at Etched Pixels website but it appears to be down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etched Pixels Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Should be back again now.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellseasoned Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 The last post on here was 5/12/19. What are people up to with coach building, especially if like so many you are in isolation? I have been making some Worsley Works LMS coaches. Am I correct in thinking it's just Etched Pixels, BHE, and Worsley Works selling coach etches at the current time? I am aware that Etched Pixels have suspended sales during Covid 19, due to self isolation, like my wife and I. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nig H Posted April 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 19, 2020 Hello, Here are some pics of a 2mm finescale LNWR composite nearing completion. Its from an Ultima etch. Nig H 9 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellseasoned Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Nig H, Some nice work there. I wonder how many people have, amongst other things, some coach etches they have brought out of "hibernation" ? Here's 2 pics of my recently completed carriages. 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nig H Posted April 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 hour ago, wellseasoned said: Nig H, Some nice work there. I wonder how many people have, amongst other things, some coach etches they have brought out of "hibernation" ? Here's 2 pics of my recently completed carriages. Hi wellseasoned, Thanks for your comment. Nice to see your models of some rarer prototypes. I've made a 2mm finescale model of one of the restaurant thirds - I really like 12 wheel coaches. Nig H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellseasoned Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) Here's a couple more pics. The 12 wheel Dining car is my first attempt at a Worsley works offering. All a bit of a learning curve with bending and soldering, but a great feeling of satisfaction when you've pretty much cracked it. I bought two of these D1901s amongst eight I purchased. Currently working my way through the remaining six that are all different. I think if somebody was to produce a 3D printed 6 wheel bogie more people would have a go at dining cars and sleepers. I have "cut and shut" some Farish mk 1 bogies. It works, but is it's not the best solution. Edited April 27, 2020 by wellseasoned Posts mixed up/merging. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidK71 Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) Good to see some nice coaches! I have a new one to show off too, but I just need better weather than today to photograph it. I agree with @Nig H that 12-wheel coaches are nice, they definitely add interest to rakes. I'm very pleased with how my Hawksworth sleeper looks, though a bit less pleased with how it goes round curves (not so much unless the curve is very gentle). Oh well, I suppose the same was true of the prototypes. @wellseasoned If you join the 2mm Association you could try their etch of the LMS 12-wheel bogie. It's not any harder than their 8-wheel bogie etches, and the result is very impressive. Edited April 28, 2020 by DavidK71 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellseasoned Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 DavidK71 Good to hear from you, your work is an inspiration to me. Can you please say/list what are the sources of etched sides/kits please...during normal circumstances? Thanks Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidK71 Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 6 hours ago, wellseasoned said: Good to hear from you, your work is an inspiration to me. Can you please say/list what are the sources of etched sides/kits please...during normal circumstances? For the coaches posted in this thread, the sources were: Etched Pixels (currently temporarily shut) Hawksworth A23 first Hawksworth D133 brake third Hawksworth J18 sleeper Hawksworth K45 brake O13 milk brake Taylor Precision Models (not trading since about 2012) Collet K40 brake Masterclass Models (Chris Higgs) (These were limited run kits offered in the past on the 2mm Association mailing list.) Collet C67 third Toplight D69 brake third Collett 'Sunshine' D121 brake third Collett 'Sunshine' E152 brake composite Bill Bedford (https://www.mousa.biz/ but it doesn't seem to list etched sides any more, so he has probably stopped doing those) H15 restaurant car H24 restaurant car eBay Toplight K22 full brake (a reduction of a 4mm etch), probably pretty old from the look of the typed instructions. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richbrummitt Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, DavidK71 said: eBay Toplight K22 full brake (a reduction of a 4mm etch), probably pretty old from the look of the typed instructions. K22 could be from a couple of places. Yours possibly 5522 design. Blacksmith (ex Mallard) also reduced some stuff to 2mm but I can't recall this being on their list. I think Worsley Works has done one more recently, which is probably a better bet. The Cavendish then Ultima range had what is supposed to be a K22 but might actually be a better match to an earlier dia. Miss Prism suggested this in a thread somewhere around this forum but I cannot find it now. These had pre printed sides and passed to Etched Pixels (I think) but something I read from Alan Cox suggested it was either not possible or not worthwhile to produce these any more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidK71 Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 9 hours ago, richbrummitt said: K22 could be from a couple of places. Yours possibly 5522 design. Yes, that was it, thanks: the etch did say "5522 Design" on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellseasoned Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 David K71, Thank you for the list of coaches you made and posted pic's of, and their origins. With regard to Masterclass and Bill Bedford I don't think either of them are currently producing N gauge etches...unless there is an avenue to purchase them I am unaware of? I have previously "won" some Bill Bedford LMS etches via ebay. I am currently working my way through a batch of 9 Worsley Works etches purchased a short while before the fairly overall lockdown. These are a step-up for me having to use solder, but I'm doing o.k. and it is very much a learning curve for me. I'm finding they need my complete concentration, and I am forced to walk away and let some parts set or dry. In 60 years of making models from my early Airfix plane days, I have always been an "eager beaver" anxious to move to the next stage. None of this with the Worsley Works etches though, so this old dog is learning a thing or three! I am currently building a W/Works diagram L21 GWR T.P.O. and mentioned to the proprieter Alan, that I think some LMS versions would be a good addition to his range. He replied that he will look into doing some of them once the current covid situation abates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidK71 Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 4 hours ago, wellseasoned said: With regard to Masterclass and Bill Bedford I don't think either of them are currently producing N gauge etches...unless there is an avenue to purchase them I am unaware of? No, I don't think that there is any way to buy them at present, unless they happen to show up on eBay. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidK71 Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 I finally got around to taking a photograph of my latest coach, finished earlier this year. I love the Great Western coaches, but I do also have a fondness for the earlier LMS coaches, especially the Period II designs. So when Chris Higgs made his back catalogue available a few years back, I couldn't resist picking up this LMS Period II open third: The only tricky bit of the build is those blasted Stones ventilators over the windows. I tried all sorts of things to represent them, but the trouble is that there are very few decent photographs of how they look in real life. I've seen some 4mm coaches with etches for the ventilators, but that didn't look right. In the end I settled on pieces of clear acetate, cut to size, and vertically scored to represent the individual elements of the ventilator, then held in place with gloss varnish. Unfortunately they doen't photograph that clearly, they're a bit better defined "in the flesh". But definitely enough trouble that one such coach is quite enough! 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellseasoned Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 It would be good if he were to make them available in future. The same with Bill Bedford etches. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellseasoned Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 This page has gone dead, is there a loss of interest? I would have thought with the levels of lockdown posts would have increased. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted September 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 27, 2020 No loss of interest. I am in awe of your modeling I love to drop in to this thread from time to time, but it hasn't come up on VNC for a while. Have you been doing any more? Regards Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Marshall Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 On 27/09/2020 at 15:12, wellseasoned said: This page has gone dead, is there a loss of interest? I would have thought with the levels of lockdown posts would have increased. I'm still interested and browse now and again. Lockdown gave me the opportunity to finish (at last!) the sides of 2 Thompson non-vestibule Brake 3rds. I was all ready to fit them when I decided to order some Modelu passengers , so I need to finish and install them, before the sides go on. I think photographs will show up the imperfections most cruelly. But at normal viewing distance they'll be ok. It was this page that inspired me to try kit-building carriages and DavidK71 was very helpful. I'm busy improving track work at the moment, then I've 2 turnouts to build, a Union Mills J25 and J27 to modify, etc, etc, but I do think I'll try more carriages at some point - there's great satisfaction in making something yourself. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidK71 Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 2020 has been rather hectic for me, so there has been substantially less modelling time, rather than more. What time there has been has also involved a few distractions away from railways. However, while work on N gauge coached may have slowed, it hasn't stopped: a few months back I got this from the etchers - my first etched sides! Now I just need to find the time to build this ... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellseasoned Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Great to know that levels of interest are still there, even if other things get in the way. David K71, those etches look interesting. Is this etches from your own design? A few months back I asked Alan at Worsley Works about doing some LMS T.P.O.s. He sounded receptive but I've not heard anything since. T.B.H. I've had a short break from coaches, and built Some Petite Properties buildings. I usually scratch-build but was curious about them. Great pre-cut stout card kits, that allow your to finish and enhance them as you wish. With lockdown mk2 I'll soon be back to coachbuilding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidK71 Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) On 05/10/2020 at 21:51, wellseasoned said: David K71, those etches look interesting. Is this etches from your own design? They are: my first attempt. To be used with Masterclass Models kits to provide the underframe and shell, to create some more unusual GWR coaches ... 😄 Edited September 6, 2022 by DavidK71 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellseasoned Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Talking of etches, Mounsa models, who I believe is Bill Bedford, was mentioned on the f/book L.M.S. modelling page today. This was in relation to his 4mm etches. I replied saying that I'd asked him if he'd be re-introducing his N gauge carriage sides, and I'd never had a reply. To this there was a reply saying "Mounsa" had said on RMweb if somebody could show it was profitable then he would do it. It seems the availability circle of carriage etches is shrinking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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