RMweb Gold SouthernRegionSteam Posted June 8, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 8, 2011 Arthur, thank you very much! I can read some of the text although a larger resolution would make it much easier to see. If it is not too much trouble could you PM them at a larger size please? The photo on the last image top left looks very interesting - is there any chance I could have a large version of that one too? Once again, thank you - the photos have been invaluable so far! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Jam, Larger text images pm'd and here's that other image. Arthur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SouthernRegionSteam Posted June 27, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2011 And overview of the state of play so far. I hadn't done any work on it for about 3 weeks until yesterday when I made a start on the aerial ropeway house and a pylon for the ropeway. The pylon is not very square and it is particularly fiddly. I should point out now that it isn't finished. I'll need to get some smaller styrene sections to do some diagonal struts, particularly around the legs. I will also need to add the pulley wheels at some point which I expect will be made from card. The aerial ropeway house will have a detailed interior but before all that it needs a rear wall, end wall, side wall and a roof with skylights. It is only after building the part of it shown in the photo that I realised just how small and fiddly the actual ropeway section inside the house will be. I think I will have to use N gauge rail for it and try and solder it all up using jigs. Either way it ain't going to be easy, I can see that now. And our little kitten Freda inspects the damage she caused to the aerial ropeway house! Good job nothing was glued down. The diorama does look a bit of a mess in this shot, particularly the backscene and front fascia but I promise it will all be tidied up when i'm sure which backscene to use. And an overall view showing the full extent of the situation so far. Just shows how much more there is to do! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SouthernRegionSteam Posted June 27, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2011 And further to my earlier post, here you can see the beginnings of the end section of the aerial ropeway. This is far from complete and there is a lot of metal work to do yet! I have also added a couple brick walls to the AR house to form the back and side. Eventually there will be a floor in there at a height of the bottom of the opening out the front of the AR house. I have also started forming the supports for a pipeline which will run across the back in front of the oil tank and over to the AR pylon. The pipe will be swung between the A frame. More to come tomorrow... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SouthernRegionSteam Posted June 28, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2011 The aerial ropeway house is taking shape with a fake floor added and the immediate storage platform both made from cardboard. If anybody has any comments or suggestions feel free to add them, its always good to hear feedback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matto21 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Looking really interesting Jam. I like your little NG loco - is it scratchbuilt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SouthernRegionSteam Posted June 29, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 29, 2011 Hi Matt, and thanks. Yes, the NG loco is scratchbuilt by 009matt of this parish! He's done a great job on it too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SouthernRegionSteam Posted July 5, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2011 Having finished the initial build of the Supermarine S.6b, my attention turned to my challenge entry. I was fairly pleased with the way the project was going but I wanted to add more prototypical operation into it. Therefore I looked at the diorama tonight, shuffled some things around and decided to draw a sketch on the computer and see where my cursor took me! The image above shows the revised A.G.W.I. although I think I've been a little overgenerous with the length. The real place at Fawley had the AGWI jetty which was a long concrete pier built out into the Solent. The pier is now abandoned although it does still stand today albeit without the aerial ropeway towers. The railings were old bits of rail with chain draped between them and the aerial ropeway pylons were integrated onto the side of the structure I believe. The NG railway ran right along here carrying barreled tar. This is the inspiration behind the revision, although I also wanted the gate to be in a more prominent place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonBradley Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Very good progress Jam. I can see how difficult it must be to work with such small dimentions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SouthernRegionSteam Posted July 11, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2011 Thank you Don, it certainly isn't easy to fit what you want in the space available! I'm now in quandary (yet again) and can't decided which way round to have the scene. I do like my initial idea with the AR house on the right hand side because you could more easily see the interior, but having it on the other side has its merits too. Here are a selection of photos of the two ways of having it. I have also made some progress with the jetty (supports, handrails and wooden planking still missing). It is simply constructed from plastruct sections and the deck of an N gauge bridge kit I had spare. You will also see the second smaller aerial ropeway tower nearest the AR house. It is a freelance design because I can't get a decent photo from the real thing. The main problem I'm having at the moment is that the N gauge rail I'm using for the metalwork in the AR house and the pipeline does not want to solder together - my dad even used a small blowtorch without success. Either the rail isn't clean enough or the alloy in the rail is unsolderable... Anyway I'd appreciate your thoughts on what plan to go for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SouthernRegionSteam Posted July 11, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2011 Well todsy I decided to get on with the original plan and move the layout forward a bit. So more work commenced on the aerial ropeway house and the ropeway itself. The AR house has had to indsutrial windows fitted thanks to half of a canopy from an old Ratio kit that I had lying about (as you do!). Unfortunately, the metal N gauge track does not like being soldered so I had to get some epoxy glue to use making it very difficult to make it all lined up and perfect. The photos show the progress so far. Any comments or suggestions feel free to add them - currently I'm looking for ideas on how to make the pulleys for the aerial ropeway... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SouthernRegionSteam Posted July 13, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 13, 2011 Yesterday saw a sizeable amount of work done on the challenge entry. The first job was to lay the foundations for the terrain. This was in the form of some offcuts of polystyrene packaging I had lying about. When cut to shape they were simply glued down with PVA onto the baseboard. After all the shaping was done, I could then cover sections of it in PVA ready for the next stage - applying the modelling clay. I worked in small sections to avoid the PVA drying out before I got there. That did take a long time - probably around 3 hours! If I had used DAS clay it would have taken me a lot shorter time to do. Right, sorry for the post and run, I'll continue where I left off later... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SouthernRegionSteam Posted July 15, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2011 Unfortunately I had to use the cheaper brand of clay for AGWI. From past experience I know that this type of clay cracks when dry (no matter what thickness it is). This time was no exception as the following photos show. Whether trying to smooth out the cracks with water will work I don't know... Eventually the whole lot will be sprayed a concrete colour which I intend to do later on today. Just about visible in the last photo above is the start of the construction of a culvert/outfall pipe behind the jetty. I might try and make a start on painting the various structures today too, as well as sorting out the wonky aerial ropeway tower on the jetty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SouthernRegionSteam Posted July 15, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2011 I decided after much lazing around this morning to get on with something productive so I spent an hour or so on the layout. The first job was to try and fix the cracked clay. In the most important place (the 'road' in the foreground) simply using water to smooth it out did work but it had little effect elsewhere. This is probably due to the PVA that was used to stick the clay down. After that was done, I decided to mask off the polystyrene areas with newspaper ready for spraying the road and the structures on the layout. Obvious precautions have to be taken to prevent the polystyrene coming into contact with the spray paint (or vice versa). The image below shows the initial coat of spray paint... The the next images show the paint finish applied to the structures and also the start of some vegetation. Here I was trying out some (new to me) fiber clump stuff to use as high level shrubbery. I might try and cover it with some scatter to give a bit more texture. Hope you can see where I am going with this challenge entry now, thoughts welcomed. P.S. Does anyone have any ideas as to how I could construct the somewhat ornate pulleys on the aerial ropeway? TIA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SouthernRegionSteam Posted July 21, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 21, 2011 With a couple days of free time I decided to do a little bit more to AGWI. I have found a grounded tank wagon I had ages ago (appropriately enough it's an Esso tanker) which will be included somewhere on the diorama. I also found the remainder of the parts of a Knightwing diesel shunter which I have cobbled together to eventually form a rusting chassis as a detailed cameo. Elsewhere (but not shown) I have made a start on the roof of the aerial ropeway house which is quite a complex structure. Along with everything else, I have some gates for the refinery entrance. I appreciate it's not much, but hopefully the images below will be of interest. I should like to add that nothing is glued down, hence all the gaps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SouthernRegionSteam Posted July 23, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2011 Hello all, Thought I would attach some more photos of AGWI - simply because I thought it looked OK in real sunlight. I took these around sunset and it certainly gives off a lovely warm glow does it not. I'm hoping to make a trip to the model shop later on today so I'll be able to get a few more bits to allow me to progress further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oldlugger Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Hello Jam, What a great concept and plan! A potential challenge winner here, as it is one of the most novel challenge projects that I've seen - the ropeway is a terrific idea! By the way, just add lots of PVA glue to your plaster mixes to give them flexibility as they dry to stop cracking. This layout definitely gets my vote... Cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SouthernRegionSteam Posted July 23, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2011 Wow, what praise! Thanks Simon, I really appreciate it. I dunno about winner though - there's some cracking and original entries on here. Just by way of an update, I went to the model shop today and managed to get a few bits for the challenge entry - paints, some plastruct pieces (to make some pipeline bridges) and a few other bits. Next time I go, I should be able to pick up some oil barrels for the aerial ropeway. I've also got to build some flat wagons for the narrow gauge and sort out the aerial ropeway of course. With any luck there should be a progress update tonight! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matto21 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 This is really coming along Jam! I'm really looking forward to more progress. I agree with Simon, this is one of the most novel projects I've seen too Just needs a Critter shuffling around now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SouthernRegionSteam Posted July 23, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2011 This is really coming along Jam! I'm really looking forward to more progress. I agree with Simon, this is one of the most novel projects I've seen too Just needs a Critter shuffling around now Thanks Matt I've just been looking at your scratchbuilt building thread and was amazed at the quality of your work You're right - a critter certainly wouldn't look out of place! Don't put such temptations in my path! I've just built this pipebridge from the parts bought at the model shop earlier: More to come later I expect... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted July 23, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2011 This looks like a really interesting little project Jam although it looks like you need the services of the Goodies to remove Freda Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matto21 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Thanks Matt I've just been looking at your scratchbuilt building thread and was amazed at the quality of your work You're right - a critter certainly wouldn't look out of place! Don't put such temptations in my path! I've just built this pipebridge from the parts bought at the model shop earlier: More to come later I expect... Thanks Jam, your praise is very generous though The pipebridge looks great - really good work. I think you should build a Critter, I've already spotted the chassis for one rusting in the undergrowth... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SouthernRegionSteam Posted July 23, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2011 This looks like a really interesting little project Jam although it looks like you need the services of the Goodies to remove Freda Thanks! I do have to keep the layout in a safe high up spot to avoid Freda trying to sabotage it. Thanks Jam, your praise is very generous though The pipebridge looks great - really good work. I think you should build a Critter, I've already spotted the chassis for one rusting in the undergrowth... Not at all, the praise is very deserved. The pipebridge went together better than expected actually - especially considering how wonky the aerial ropeway pylon is! Yes, that certainly is the right chassis for a Critter. 'Tis a shame there's no standard gauge on the diorama now though I've just finished scribing and painting the loading platform for the aerial ropeway. It will need to be toned down a bit though I think: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matto21 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 That is very good, care to share your method? I actually thought about building a 'layout' for this challenge for my Critter, just couldn't think of a suitable idea! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SouthernRegionSteam Posted July 23, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2011 That is very good, care to share your method? I actually thought about building a 'layout' for this challenge for my Critter, just couldn't think of a suitable idea! Of course - the plasticard is scribed to represent planking and then the craft knife is twisted into the plank ends to represent nails. Then once all is scribed I used Humbrol 160 and just brushed it on (make sure you get in all the little nooks and gaps). Then I used a somewhat accidental technique - with an old paintbrush, brush (without any paint on this time) but apply a lot of pressure rather than just stroking it. That gets rid of some of the paint. You simply just go from side to side doing this method removing as much paint as you like. I hope I explained that OK! Yes, that would be quite a good idea - a Critter layout -although not sure what theme it could be. Almost certainly industrial though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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