RMweb Premium SR Chris Posted December 8, 2009 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 8, 2009 Theres also what looks like a battery box - where does that go ? Left hand side just behind and below the cab door, between the two sets of rear steps. Cheers, Chris. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neal Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Notice that the sliding roof panel is larger on the green one. Shows that there are variation amongst the least numerous of prototypes. Assuming this is correct for the prototypes modelled, well done Bachmann! Having run in 82016 at length, I have come to the conclusion that the motor is less powerful than in other Bachmann locos, whilst it is smooth and steady at low speeds on DCC BEMF, if you place any resistance against it, it doesn't have the 'fight' that other locos have. The can motor is grey in colour and differs from those in the Jinty/Panniers/Small Prairie. Notwithstanding, it can pull 6 Mk1's around my loop with no problems, but slows rather than spinning it's wheels when resistance is greatest. Hopefully this won't affect the longevity of the motor - we don't want another A1 saga. N Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Hiya all, strange question but could someone please tell me the messerments for the loco, as i would like to know if it would fit in the headshunt of my small shuntting layout! Thanks all my apologies in my earlier reply I wrote 49 ft 10 inches and it's 40 feet 10 inches (I have since edited it) which at 4mm to the foot = approx 163.5mm sorry about my earlier error. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D605Eagle Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Ooooh! I'l have to save my pennies and get a BR green one. Probably my favorite BR standard loco design. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidnutter Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Notice that the sliding roof panel is larger on the green one. Shows that there are variation amongst the least numerous of prototypes. Assuming this is correct for the prototypes modelled, well done Bachmann! Having run in 82016 at length, I have come to the conclusion that the motor is less powerful than in other Bachmann locos, whilst it is smooth and steady at low speeds on DCC BEMF, if you place any resistance against it, it doesn't have the 'fight' that other locos have. The can motor is grey in colour and differs from those in the Jinty/Panniers/Small Prairie. Notwithstanding, it can pull 6 Mk1's around my loop with no problems, but slows rather than spinning it's wheels when resistance is greatest. Hopefully this won't affect the longevity of the motor - we don't want another A1 saga. N If thats the case, Once I get mine and if it has the same problem maybe a new Mashima might do the trick along with some more weight? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted December 9, 2009 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 9, 2009 I went to get my one out of the box and noticed the the smoke box door was at a funny angle, yes the smoke box door does open. it is nice touch but considering that the loco will be used in a running with trains, it is OK if you wish to do a shed scene of the loco on shed with the fireman cleaning out the clinker. The design of the hinge of the smoke is a little suspect in design, as the hinges are brass (unconfirmed) but the hinge bar is moulded plastic, and the weak is a point at the top and bottom of the door it self. The main thing though baring all design faults it is still a very good model to have in ones stud. I have no running problems to date with my model. Terry Note to self. Renumber and a light weathering required. and extra details to be added. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Mine's running nicely now. It did have a ropey smokebox door, but I've just secured that in place now, so no big deal there. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 An opening smokebox door simply to display a tubeplate that is flush with the front of the smokebox is taking absurdity to new lengths. Glad to hear Trainshed Terry's 3Mt is running well without a wobble. LG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 There are a few commercial firms on here Rob, but hey....some are also modellers. The wobbling Class 3 2-6-2T has been mentioned several times. I hope it hasnt got Ivatt Tank symptoms as most of them had a limp too. Larry 82029 - arrived this week - punctual and on time... No trace of a wobble - in fact a very smooth runner right out of the box. So far everything seems to be intact. A truly delightful model - the only thing wrong is the number - it should have been 82016... Still I live in Canada and those who know about shed numbers don't seem to live nearby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bayford Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Well i recived mine today very pleased with it but i had notcied i slight problem on the right hand cylinder on the Valve Spindle Corsshead witch left the Combination Lever rasied with wouldnt let it run after i sorted this out by gently pushing it back it runs fine Here is a Video of 82016 Running in (The waddle is the loco as its on the ez rollers and it was filmed and photoed on my bed as i dont have a layout at the moment:( ) Here are some pictures too This is a picture of the problem area as mentioned above. After is had be pushed back The not so great inside smokebox Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Garry D100 Posted December 11, 2009 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2009 Just noticed Hattons have whacked their price for the green version upto ??72 !! ??11 premium for a different livery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Just noticed Hattons have whacked their price for the green version upto ??72 !! ??11 premium for a different livery Er no, just they are discounting it less presumably on economics of supply and demand as they typically adopt. The list price is ??76.05. Some thing with the EMU - blue grey are ??99 at Hattons but green are now ??129, list price is 50p more. Back to the Std 3 tank discovered that the packaging needs to be trimmed if you have fitted the front steps. Also not certain over the headcode dics as they seem to have more detail mouldings on them than actual ones judging by photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Garry D100 Posted December 11, 2009 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2009 Er no, just they are discounting it less presumably on economics of supply and demand as they typically adopt. Er yes, I know they are discounting it less, but compared to the black versions you are paying a premium of ??11 more just for green. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 11, 2009 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2009 Er yes, I know they are discounting it less, but compared to the black versions you are paying a premium of ??11 more just for green. Supply and demand I suppose.I see Rails have sold out of theirs at ??59.50 .I wonder how many they had.Do Bachmann prioritize these two sellers in releases or does everyone get a fair crack of the whip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Garry D100 Posted December 11, 2009 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2009 Do Bachmann prioritize these two sellers in releases or does everyone get a fair crack of the whip. Bachmann rotate it so sometimes Rails will get the new releases first, sometimes Hattons and other times the smaller retailers. They do try to keep it as fair as possible. At least thats what I was told by one of the bigger retailers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSWR Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 82016 arrived at the left hand side of the Atlantic today. Checking out the loco, I didn't find any of the problems other posters have mentioned. It ran very smoothly with only the slightest hint of a wobble that may be more due to my length of test track than anything wrong with the loco. For comparison's sake I brought out my original Tri-ang 82004 model. What a difference 50 years makes! Although 82004 still runs; crude but robust and noisy. Tri-ang's 82004 body makes a sounding box for the X04 motor and gear noise. I wonder why no acoustic engineer has expoited such a phenomenon for current sound equipped DCC locomotives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Supply and demand I suppose.I see Rails have sold out of theirs at ??59.50 .I wonder how many they had.Do Bachmann prioritize these two sellers in releases or does everyone get a fair crack of the whip. See my post on page 2 re quantity. Rails and Hattons received their stock on the same day. Not always the case. I don't think that their is any bias. Just a desire on the part of Bachmann to get em out of their place ASAP. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Pannier Tank Posted December 12, 2009 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 12, 2009 Just noticed Hattons have whacked their price for the green version upto ??72 !! ??11 premium for a different livery Just received my 31-976 82005 from Hattons for ??61 (pre-order price); he who hesitates............. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 12, 2009 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 12, 2009 See my post on page 2 re quantity. Rails and Hattons received their stock on the same day. Not always the case. I don't think that their is any bias. Just a desire on the part of Bachmann to get em out of their place ASAP. Bernard Bernard.I read yoyr post re 64 sold.I wondered whether thats the black and green versions together.My post was asking how many green ones they had at ??59.50 . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 ...there was also a slight waddle. My 82005 has the same problem - and my supplier only had one more left which has the waddle too. A call to Bachmann customer services on Monday, methinks !! Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Bernard.I read yoyr post re 64 sold.I wondered whether thats the black and green versions together.My post was asking how many green ones they had at ??59.50 . It was 64 for the North Eastern black version. That's the one I was after. I don't think the green one was available at that time. It does put rather a different slant on the old adage that only big express locos sell well. It might just lead the way for more smaller locos to be considered by the big 2. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 It does put rather a different slant on the old adage that only big express locos sell well. It might just lead the way for more smaller locos to be considered by the big 2.Bernard I do hope so says he who wished it had been a Fowler Class 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 If it's of interest, i've done a few mods to my Bachmann 82xxx smokebox and wheels. Find it in the kitbashing section. Cheers, Brian. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php/topic/5617-Bachmann-82xxx-smokebox-mods-and-wheel-turning/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Also out of interest I received my green 3MT today and found it very impressive to look at, but there was a bit of work to do. The brakerods were not located on three hangers , I spent some time getting five in, but one is stubbornly unwilling.. (glue eventually maybe), the regulator rod fell out of the cab from my poor handling but went back in, straight and correct, unlike many pics. The smokebox door reveals the tubeplate as illustrated here previously in the wrong place, ridiculously right behing the door, doesn't look easy to move without surgery, although the reference in the previous message shows how! Thanks. I have just put a spot of glue on my door and closed it. <g> The tool-holder bracket on top if the fireman's-side water tank is vulnerable. The engine stalls on type 2 or 3 curves as if shorting, no idea why, suspected front sand pipes so bent-shortened them by about 2mm, but still stops sometimes, only on curves. A dead sudden stop, faint buzz, and then requires a bit of power to re-start, sometimes, if reverse is chosen, otherwise replace on straight track and then seems OK again, albeit slightly 'sticky' to take off. Importantly, it doesn't waddle! And looks great. Slightly growly, acceptably smooth, no hesitation on points, will now run it in. And stare at it malevolently if it stalls (locks? shorts?) again! Rob post script; after about 30 mins running it has behaved itself, although did stall twice at low speed, I suspect a mechanical thing possibly somewhere in the rods, ..and it is a good runner generally, the faintest of waddle and vertical slight ride 'bounce' at times, quite realistic, and a slight tight spot for very slow running. I DO like the 'handed' valve gear which also has realistic 'throw' unlike many RTR 00 models. ... and it hasn't stalled at all for a long time now. Cannot see any mechanical reason for the initial stalling, close look at rods, axles, and everything, pony truck springs are quite strong but run well on my type 2-3 radius layout. overall...well pleased. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Nevard Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Thanks for posting that - I have a hunch that a 82005 might be waiting under the tree later for me whan I get home. In your pic, is it OO balancing on EM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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