Brian Harrap Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 Hello Singletrack Thank you for your interest in QUAY:87. QUAI:87 is a layout that I built to incorporate quite a few of the things I’ve always wanted to have on a layout, things I’d come across on my travels over the years. Inset track I have always found interesting, and canals and waterways, and industrial scenes with tight clearances and complicated trackwork. Buildings and things I have copied from ones I have come across as you will have gathered. The layout is not based on any particular place or era although I feel more comfortable with ‘pre Brexit’, but is clearly Northern Europe. I didn’t want my new layout to be too ‘ordinary’ (station, run round loop, train disappearing under a bridge to fiddle yard, (no fiddle yard here, who are they kidding), you know the sort of thing so I put the canal right down the middle, avoiding the usual scenario where the viewer is left standing in the water. This meant I could have a swing bridge (I always had a hankering for them as well) connecting the railway lines on both sides of the canal. Quayside rail lines, always liked them. This meant that my swing bridge, by careful arrangement of the trackplan, I could have the bridge play a real functional role instead of just turning for its own sake. Seeing as I had managed this for one bridge I thought I’d do it with two (just because I could). There used to be a prototype for this arrangement I think at the docks in Hobart Tas. The sharp curves are intentional as they can be used to create intricate geometric shapes to fit the buildings into and around with tight clearances that have always fascinated me. The inset trackwork determined (for me) the use of proto scale flangeway clearances etc, coarse scale inset track just doesn’t do it for me. Other features such as the wagon hoist to the high level line to the stealth factory, the wagon turntables and the pre-cooling shed for Interfrigo just got added as the fancy took me. A train ferry slip like the one at Rjukan is a possibility in the future. The whole layout is of irregular shape and all on one baseboard. No joins. 11 1 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ianathompson Posted February 11, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Brian Harrap said: A train ferry slip like the one at Rjukan is a possibility in the future. I would really like to see that if you can replicate angles shown in the picture on p23 Train ferries of Western Europe P Ransome Wallis, Ian Allan 1968. I would have thought that the gauntleted track OHL access across the link span would be quite a feat in itself, especially if the ferry "sailed". That does not include the sharp angle (heel?) of the ferry (Rjukanfoss) in the background. The angle of course reflects the fact that the ferry is unbalanced because one track is loaded and the other is not. Ian T 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brian Harrap Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 18 hours ago, ianathompson said: I would really like to see that if you can replicate angles shown in the picture on p23 Train ferries of Western Europe P Ransome Wallis, Ian Allan 1968. I would have thought that the gauntleted track OHL access across the link span would be quite a feat in itself, especially if the ferry "sailed". That does not include the sharp angle (heel?) of the ferry (Rjukanfoss) in the background. The angle of course reflects the fact that the ferry is unbalanced because one track is loaded and the other is not. Ian T Just checking my copy now Ian B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium readingtype Posted February 13, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 13, 2021 On 11/02/2021 at 11:14, Brian Harrap said: The whole layout is of irregular shape and all on one baseboard. And shows signs of actually becoming a fully-fledged island with a train ferry service by the sound of it :-) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Harrap Posted February 13, 2021 Author Share Posted February 13, 2021 7 hours ago, readingtype said: And shows signs of actually becoming a fully-fledged island with a train ferry service by the sound of it :-) Yes it's definitely starting to look that way B 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singletrack Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 (edited) Thanks for the background story Baron. A slip would be a nice addition. I had a run on the Rjukan line previous summer with my son, Mæl to Rjukan. Had the museum train to our self because of the pandemic situation. Anyway, here is Amonia by the quay and Storegut at the slip, at Mæl. Edited February 20, 2021 by Singletrack 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singletrack Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) Hi, historic pictures of the Mæl site and ferry traffic there can be found by this link https://digitaltmuseum.no Mæl Birds view 1961 Then there is the other end of the ferry line Digitaltmuseum Tinnoset Birds view 1971 /R Edited February 15, 2021 by Singletrack Added information 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neils WRX Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 What a really interesting location, would make a nice model on its own !! Enjoyed looking through the pictures. Stay safe, Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Harrap Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 Thanks for all the pictures. I think I saw a video once of wagons being hauled off the ferry using a cable pulled by a locomotive. I would love to have seen them doing that. Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singletrack Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) Possibly this one Brian Rope shunting demo /Ragnar Edited February 16, 2021 by Singletrack 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brian Harrap Posted February 19, 2021 Author Share Posted February 19, 2021 I hadn't realised unloading the ferry was such a spectator sport. A simalar video I remember seeing featured an elderly electric locomotive doing the pulling on the cable. Brian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singletrack Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) Didn’t find any video with RjB14 shunting, but there are some pics. photo: Erik Borgersen At the terminal Looking omboard the deck of Storegut There is also a video from the last day of ordinary traffic. Rolling stock is pushed onboard from 6:15 Ragnar Edited February 19, 2021 by Singletrack 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singletrack Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Rope shunting with El 5 El 5 locomotives where built for the Norwegian State railway (NSB) in two series 1926 and 1927, a total of 12. They where taken out of service between 1969 and 1972. El5.2039 is the only one left and was restored in the 1970s. Ragnar 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted February 20, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20, 2021 Wonderful film. Thanks again Ragnar. Translation from YouTube In the last months before the Rjukan line was closed, none of the line's own electric locomotives were in drivable condition. By agreement with the Norwegian Technical Museum, the old El 5.2039, built in 1926, was lent to the Rjukan line. This locomotive led regular freight trains to the track was closed down on 4 July 1991. In the video we see the locomotive drive out of the locomotive shed, lead a freight train down Vestfjorddalen, drive over the bridge on Miland, and change carriages on and off the railway ferry "Storegut" at the ferry berth on Mæl at Tinnsjøen. In the background there we see the old steam-powered railway ferry «Ammonia». Afterwards, the locomotive pulls carriages up the valley towards the factories at Rju 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Harrap Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 Thanks for all that stuff about the ferry operations. Its going to need sone thinking about. Brian 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brian Harrap Posted February 27, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2021 This is the nearest I can get to a locomotive that might be suitable for rope shunting at the ferry B 21 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brian Harrap Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 ZOB layouts even have their own special parking arrangements when they go on tour. 4 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted April 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 22, 2021 and are guarded by two members of ZZ Top 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curlew Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 A working ferry layout 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Harrap Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 41 minutes ago, Curlew said: A working ferry layout That's rather good Love the, presumably, radio controlled lorry. I might have to rethink my ferry operations. Thanks for posting link. Baron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Harrap Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 57 minutes ago, Stubby47 said: and are guarded by two members of ZZ Top Had to look em up but you're right B 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brian Harrap Posted October 5, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2021 Managed to get this shot of the new TGK2 locomotive about to squeeze through the narrow and track infested gap between the buildings on its way to trundle along the quaysides, looking for something to shunt no doubt. I thought I'd share it with you. Brian 34 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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