RMweb Premium PaulCheffus Posted April 6, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 6, 2012 Hello Everybody! Hehe there's always time to do a sneeky bit of loco detailing! This afternoon I skived off the buildings and aside from painting the 37 and 60 doors I skived the locos too... and had a quick session doing the BBAs, and its made quite a difference: Hi Just one minor point these are BDO/BDV/BDAs not BBAs. A BBA looks like this http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/bba/h215aa1fb#h215aa1fb Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MrSimon Posted April 6, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 6, 2012 Hi Paul, Yep you got me - I've got a pair of actual BBAs to finish off and the ones I've been working on are BDAs... I can never remember the codes Cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MrSimon Posted May 13, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 13, 2012 (edited) Hello Everybody!2 weeks to go until my layout's first exhibition so obviously its time to start repainting stock... (although it was an emergency repaint after something failed and I'd been meaning to start it for a while) In Railway Modeller the other month there was an article about improving an old Farish class 47 body shell, and as that was the engine I'd got lined up to repaint (and had had lined up for 3 or 4 years) I thought I'd give it a try. I'd already got a Taylor detailing kit in my box, so I ignored the bits of the article which was covered by the kit. The main alteration I made was to move the headcode panel and tail lights down a bit, and cut off the handrails so I could make brass ones. The hole was filled with plasticard and putty and then the headcode plate from the detailing kit:The rest of the kit was fitted, as well as a pair of roof fans I found in a toyfair bits box (which I'm fairly sure were meant for a class 47...)Its now in the paintshop (the fast lane) and I'll post some pics of it on the layout when its doneJust out of the paintshop is the Class 37: There are still some details to paint on, and it needs numbering and varnishing and glazing, but its almost there, and should be at the AGM Lots to do!Simon Edited August 7, 2018 by MrSimon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangor Lad Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 That 47 is the D's B's Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MrSimon Posted June 24, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Thanks Dave!Hello everybody! I've had a bit of a break following the crazy run up to the NGS AGM, but now in a bid to get the sunshine back I've got the cutting mat back out. first up, some pictures of the DRS 37 which ran faultlessly all day at Cotgrave: I've just found the top headlights, which I'll fit this week... and maybe some numbers... The 47 and the 60 are waiting for me to do the transfers, which we all know is my least favourite thing - they also need the paint around the warning panels touching up - I'll add the 60's windscreen before I varnish the transfers onI've also been doing a bit of work on some rolling stock:The main train missing at Cotgrave was a MGR, which is a pretty essential train for a north Nottinghamshire layout! I had 2 in the box, but I've got a few more now - and this one will be the end of the train Did the wagons with the hoods run in the same trains as the wagons without?I did a bit of work on some stock for my next layout (but must Finish and Exhibit Gresby first!) I'd used one of the TPM frieghliner kits before, so I got a new one to sort out a few more of my wagons - the old kit used a whitemetal coupling, but the plastic replacement is a vast improvement. I took the whitemetal coupling off and made this wagon the reat (I'll do this on my other Freightliner too)Must finish Gresby...Lots to do!Simon Edited August 7, 2018 by MrSimon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted June 25, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 25, 2012 I very much enjoyed seeing your layout at the NGS AGM. It was smaller than I'd expected. Couple of minor points, HAAs usually have just the one brake pipe (red one). The yellow main reservoir pipe isn't fitted on the wagons I've seen (link to someone else's picture). They have instanter couplings rather than screw-links (but I'm not sure if these are available in N Gauge). Happy modelling. Steven B. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MrSimon Posted June 25, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 25, 2012 Hi Steven, I'm glad you enjoyed seeing Gresby - it should be finished next time it goes out! Thank you for the link to that picture, I'd only been able to find 'coupled up' pictures on WOTW so took a guess with the yellow pipe (which has now been removed) I'll keep my eye out for some instanters... would these be right for HEAs and TEAs too? Cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted June 26, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 26, 2012 HEAs are instanter couplings and air-brake pipe (no reservoir). TEAs are more complicated - some have screw link, others instanter. Most appear to just have the brake pipe and not the reservoir pipe. If you haven't discovered it already, Wagons on the Web is a good place to start for photos of the modern wagons. Paul Bartlett's site is worth a look and has many older wagons. Happy modelling. Steven B. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MrSimon Posted December 9, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 9, 2012 (edited) Hello Everybody!I'm back! Its been a while - I've been doing Gresbyish things and I moved house. The best bit about this housemove is a new old modelling desk:Its a bureau! I can tidy up in two minutes its great I've even done some modelling...Firstly, I had a go at detailing the front end of a Dapol class 66:I've run out of etched couplings but the front dam and pipes look ok - not as fitted as the Bachman ones but it needed more surgery than putting a spare part on I cut the front bit off the bogie frame, and took the coupling off. I had to file a section out of the front bit of chassis to accommodate the bit of plasticard I stuck on the back of the front:The back of the front bit. I also disconnected the head and tail lamps from the other end of the loco, and had a go at exhaust weathering:It needs a bit of work, and some powders... its not really a reversible detail job.While I had a spare NEM coupler hole, I decided to see if I could fit it into a non-NEM coupling pocket:It fits! Again, its pretty non-reversible, but if I ever sell it its NEM It needs a bit of fettling and a bit of filling so it sits a bit more level, but its OK.And now I can shunt on Gresby with a class 37 - I just need some short arm couplings and the train I'm planning on it shunting...More to comeSimon Edited August 7, 2018 by MrSimon 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MrSimon Posted December 9, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 9, 2012 (edited) Hello everybody!I've done a bit more engine detailing, this time on a pair of class 31s:I didn't realise that the headlamps on 31s were in two different positions on the whole class except for Wigan Peir which was uniquely central... It sort of makes me think that Farish could have chosen ones with it all in the same place and moulded it on! The sockets are from class 47 detailing kits and the big cables from Freightliner hoppers - I'm thinking of changing the big cables for less curvy ones:I didn't fit the orange thing on the yellow panel or the curly pipe that leads to it, but its N Gauge! The models need more weathering, and one day some newer-profile wheels, but I'm happy with them.I also got round to making a start on repainting the class 156 I've had on my to-do list for years - its a dummy that I bought through fear of messing up a powered one. Its going to be the in the post-franchise-loss-pre-Northern-end-of-First-North-Western Blue. I've been researching for a while, but there was something that didn't quite look right once I'd painted the doors:The model has the door buttons and some handles moulded onto the door, which shouldn't be there for the livery... so I took them offThe front needs finishing and detailing, but the sides are ready for varnishingI need to sort out some transfers and start the second car, but its turned out OK.Lots to do!Simon Edited August 7, 2018 by MrSimon 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MrSimon Posted December 9, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 9, 2012 (edited) Hello Everybody!I've also been working on some kits, I Christened my new desk with a NGS Seacow:Every time over the years I've tried to make one of these in the grey livery with the yellow stripe its gone wrong and I've painted it out. It needs a little tidying up but I'm pleased with how its come out this time.When I was building the seacow I realised just how bashed up the rest of my rake have got, so I went through the seacow box and sorted out all the handrails and safety cages. I took the worst one out of service and used a end-cage to fix a damaged one on a better wagon. I also rebuilt the seacow-box to keep them still in transit:Just as i thought I was done with the rest of the rake I got up to the bit about the hopper-operating-wheels on the instructions. I must have always skimmed that bit over the years and done them all like this: I read the instructions properly for the first time and decided i really aught to correct the rest of the rake, so my desk has been covered in loads of bunches of handwheels... but the rake looks good now, with just three or four left to build I made a start on weathering my cargowaggons, but I'm not sure if I like how they've turned out: I started on the spare-ish wagon that I don't run on Gresby and has a missing coupling - I used too much thinners and it took away a load of the printing, and the dirts maybe not quite right... Maybe it would look better with an airbrush, but I don't have one at the moment - but I did the underframes and the ends and the roof with a brush - the rest of the rake can maybe wait a bit.Lots to do!Simon Edited August 7, 2018 by MrSimon 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HealeyMills Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Hi Simon, Not sure why you are not keen on the Cargo wagons... I think they look great! Cheers Lee 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MrSimon Posted December 9, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 9, 2012 (edited) Hello Everybody!Almost caught up with the last four weeks Yesterday I built one of the new NGS kit 12B BDV/W bogie wagons: Its really good! Its been a while since I built the other kit 12s, but the plastic bit went together pretty much how I remembered it but the details are a massive improvement - and really tricky! Full on brake-rigging I had to add a few bits to build up the ride height to match the rest of the rake, and I took the opportunity to combine boosting the height a little with copying the suspension on the RMC hopper kit.I've got three more 12Bs to build, so I'll try the version with the handwheels next The only negative thing about the kit - the plastic buffers are really thick, which is a shame when the etched details are so fine - but they can be thinned down, and they're not very noticeable. But I'll see about replacing them on mine with brass ones... one day. Excellent kit though!Lots to do!Simon Edited August 7, 2018 by MrSimon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MrSimon Posted December 9, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 9, 2012 Hi Simon, Not sure why you are not keen on the Cargo wagons... I think they look great! Cheers Lee Thanks Lee! I think I need to do another and then stare at them for a while - I like the ends though Cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HealeyMills Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 They look very well used... just how they should look! How did you weather them, what paints/ colours? Cheers Lee 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Nice work there Simon, particularly like the DRS 66 and the NEM cut n shut! I do like the Seacow box, a great idea to protect the ends, nice one! jo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanks522 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Looking good Simon, Rolling stock has been keeping you busy by the looks of things. Graham. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MrSimon Posted December 9, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 9, 2012 Hi Thank you for your kind comments everyone - the stock has certainly kept me busy these last few weeks (I was getting building fatigue) and there's loads more to do! The new Seacow box was a bit of a necessity, the old one had twice as much capacity for what I needed and it allowed the wagons too much space to jiggle around - so the Seacows now share with the Clams, which also need sponge on the roof to keep them in one piece I did the Cargowaggon weathering with a mix of Phoenix P960 Frame Dirt, P931 Dirty Black and P962 Roof Dirt thinned down and wiped straight off, then a second coat of the same but with P963 Brake Dust swapped for the Roof Dirt on the second coat. Then I gave it a thick covering of khaki-tan-ish and black pastels, which I rubbed in and then brushed off. I still need to fix the pastels, then maybe add a few more... phew - glad the cargowaggons are only a short train! Lots to do! Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MrSimon Posted December 17, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) Hello Everybody!I have been busy... or it feels like I have, but I've not had the good light to photograph anything in.The is ready for me to put transfers on, and the couplings tweaking slightly so they don't droop. I'll give the deck and stanchions a coat of dirty brown later and see about psyching myself up to put some transfers on...I've had a BDA on the desk all the time I've been building the new kit so I can make sure the ride heights the same, yesterday I noticed it didn't have a handbrake and remembered that I was supposed to stick handwheels onto the bogies before I took Gresby out last year. So yesterday I did it, and I like the difference it has made. Theres 3 more in the pipe-train box need doing.I've also made a start repainting the second car of that 156. It feels like its going better than the first car, but the grey paint hasn't been behaving too well. I'm not entirely sure what to do about it other than smooth it down and apply another coat.I've done some other bits, but I didn't take any pictures while the sun was out Lots to do!Simon Edited August 2, 2018 by MrSimon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I just found this interesting thread - some great work. I'll be following from here on in! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MrSimon Posted December 22, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) Hello Everybody! Welcome aboard Jonas I'm back in the freezing north for Christmas, and bought the pipe train with me to test the new BDAs with the rest of the rake and test them through slave points. Unfortunately I couldn't test them on Gresby, but I could on my dads layout. I added the loads temporarily, so the wagons would behave like the rest of the train (they still need painting) they seemed to run well, just a few tweeks round the bogies to get the couplings sitting level and these should be fine. I've also started fitting spare brake levers to the wagons that I either forgot to fit them to or they've fallen off. And then I took a quick video: Not much to do now until after Thursday Merry Christmas Everybody! Simon EDIT: I've no idea why the pictures aren't showing properly... can't beat a good upgrade! Ooo now they're showing. Edited February 2, 2020 by MrSimon Worked out how to make the video show as embedded 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MrSimon Posted January 3, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 3, 2013 (edited) Happy New Year Everybody! This year, for Christmas, Santa bought me a Farish Seacow (I think he'd been reading how I'd been working on my NGS ones) so when I got it back to my desk I thought I'd give it a bit of a paint to match the others in my rake: The Seacow straight from the box. Its a nice model if I do say so myself - obviously there are differences between the kit and the model - but they look good together! The first thing I did was paint the inside to match the others - sort of rusty. The next thing was to investigate the bag of bits. The instructions say to only fit them if you have broad curves to run the wagon on. They aren't very broad on Gresby, but I wanted the steps and handwheels to match the NGS kits so I had to think of a cunning plan: New holes about 1mm outside of the factory fitted holes. It seemed to be a better solution than somehow lashing the plastic ladders on to the bogies, but the difference to the turning circle was apparent: Original holes on the left, new holes on the right. Hopefully it won't have to go through such a tight curve, but there are 10" curves in my fiddle yard. I was very smug with myself and glued the handwheels in without checking the bogies first and realised (like a fool, well after the glue had set and I'd painted the details underneath) that the coupling fouled the handwheel detail. I stared at the wagon with dark thoughts for a few days and hit on the only answer I could think of... remember to cut that bit off on any others I get, and take the coupling off that end so this wagon can be the end wagon. The hook came on the wagon, and the screw came from my class 58, and the pipe from a hopper. I need to find my tail lamps. The Farish wagon seems to have bigger wheels and a smaller type of bogie than the Kits, so I had to paint the wheel-faces: I'm not sure how well it shows up, but its not shiny which is the main thing, I also painted the buffers and touched over all the handrails with matt white. The finished wagon. I need two more seacows until the rake is complete and then I'll load them all to get a consistent colour of fresh ballast, and I'll work on weathering when I've done a bit more practicing. Plenty left to work on in the bureau - Lots to do! Simon Edited August 2, 2018 by MrSimon 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 The Farish model represents the earlier version, built up to the early 1970s, whereas the N Gauge Society kit is the later 1980s build. These have welded side uprights, different bogies, higher end handrails and various other detail differences. The two types are/were seen together in the same trains too. The NGS also did an etched brass kit for the earlier type (actually for the SR Walrus version with optional parts to update to the Sealion) but not only was it actually 2mm scale (reduced down from a 4mm kit) but a LOT of work to build. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MrSimon Posted January 4, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2013 Hi Bernard, I'd always been put off by the difficulty of the society Walrus kit so I'm glad to read that its pretty much the same as the Farish one - maybe it would be good for someone to produce etches to backdate the Farish wagon into the SR version? I noticed before I gave Santa my list that the end details were different, but I hadn't realised that the bogies were so different. They look good together though, can't wait to get the rake finished and running on the layout. This afternoon has been mostly spent on the 156. Who'd have thought it would be so hard to paint a single colour? I want to get the 156 transfer ready so I can get started on my next stock project Cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkie Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Looking good simon, i keep eyeing up the PFA kits. This my have made me buy some now 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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