richard37670 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Nice photo Craig great to see behind the scene shot. Wonder how much longer the honk will be there before the shed take over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 An update to the freight scene in Cornwall. 08907 was taken away by low loader shortly after my pictures were taken. This has combined with a consolidation of turns at St Blazey depot, which I wont go into details. The upshot is a change to the CDA weekly programme. No more than 2 x Rocks trips are now possible each day, or one Parkandillack turn. This is due to the clay loco doing the shunting at Fowey Carne Point. These trips have been subject to alteration with IMERYS lately, so no firm plan can be set out. On the mainline traffic (NACCO), this is slightly improved with 3 out of county workings on Wed / Thurs / Fri. Wed 7 Thursday are little changed (Parkandillack Wed / Par Harbour Thu), but the Penzance fuel now runs on a Friday 08.45 / 09.15 at Long Rock. The tanks then combine with any Henry Orchard scrap and head eastbound earlier in the afternoon. The situation at St Blazey is delicate obviously with posts and many friends and colleagues involved, and is not completed yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted January 21, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21, 2013 Great pictures which brought back happy memories of family holidays and also a 3 day rail rover last year. One afternoon I had an hour to spare at Par and ended up being invited into the box by the local signalling supervisor and we worked the down starter several times so that I could work out the 'bounce' on a lower quadrant for when I programme the signals on my new layout. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
floss_4 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 The upshot is a change to the CDA weekly programme. Noticed there were only around 28 CDA's on this mornings run. Is that the norm now or subject to variation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted January 21, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21, 2013 Noticed there were only around 28 CDA's on this mornings run. Is that the norm now or subject to variation? No, the maximum authorised load (outside of Autumnal 'red' or 'black' slipping days is 38 CDAs. It must have been more lightly loaded for some other reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted January 23, 2013 Author Share Posted January 23, 2013 A sequence of pictures showing the cutting up of one of the long-stored CDAs in St Blazey Yard. The contractor is Henry Orchard, which paradoxically may result in the scrap being taken away by rail later this week! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted January 23, 2013 Author Share Posted January 23, 2013 And other one - a possible coversion to road use perhaps? A sequence of pictures showing the cutting up of one of the long-stored CDAs in St Blazey Yard. The contractor is Henry Orchard, which paradoxically may result in the scrap being taken away by rail later this week! 20130123_093406.jpg 20130123_093429.jpg 20130123_093802.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
floss_4 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 How many of the original CDA build (was it around 120) are still used? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Would be great to see 1 or 2 examples of these being preserved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 38 is quite right mate. Only the two rakes are currently in use, a rake of 38 are stored in the lower yard at St Blazey. The third became redundant recently when the pilot loco was dispenced with at Fowey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 Why not just cut it up on site then? I understand they're being crushed first. The wheelsets may be kept too(?). These were taken up as seen in the pictures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 Took the canon with me today to record 134's demise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 34008Padstow Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 An intresting sequence of pics Craig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard37670 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I managed to save a maker plate from 375134 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Shame they are cutting these wagons up,I suppose this is because of the change in practise by the clay companies extraction levels.Will the clay continue to be taken from the Cornish clay region or will it all come from abroad ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted January 27, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27, 2013 Clay is still being extracted in Cornwall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted January 27, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27, 2013 Albeit not in such large quantities as it has been and with fewer rail-served locations involved. Two 38-wagon rakes of CDAs suffice where once you could have seen several rakes of "hoods" at Lostwithiel alone and with a typical train being 40 of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted January 27, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2013 Whilst it is very sad to see the reduction in activity at St Blazey and the smaller number of movements taking place, fewer loading points etc., we do need to bear in mind (as I'm sure most of us already do) that we are in difficult economic climes, and this includes Imerys and other clay producers. Yes, we are still extracting clay in mid-Cornwall and moving it by rail, but both Imerys and DBS need to make this operation as slick and economic as possible. Where tonnages are relatively static, there is generally a trend to move the same amount of traffic on fewer, but longer, freight trains, and the Cornish clay operation is no exception, hence the agreement from a few years ago to increase the maximum permitted load to 38 CDAs (except on Autumn days when poor adhesion is forecast, when the load is reduced somewhat). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
floss_4 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Presumably the recent changes are due to a new contract for this traffic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share Posted January 30, 2013 Presumably the recent changes are due to a new contract for this traffic. Thats correct. Other operators were involved in bids, and obviously, DBS needed a competitive one. There was even talk of the CDA / Mainline traffic being split between companies at one point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
floss_4 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Thats correct. Other operators were involved in bids, and obviously, DBS needed a competitive one. There was even talk of the CDA / Mainline traffic being split between companies at one point. Do DBS still own the CDA's thus making it difficult for another operator to take over that part of the operation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
floss_4 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Apparently local road haulier Maen Karne who already have local clay haulage work were interested in this traffic. Hopefully the volumes stay at a level that keeps rail viable and the most practical option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 Some CDA shunting resulted in this strange set up at Goonbarrow today! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cold-ash Posted March 1, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 1, 2013 Interesting Craig! What's happening there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted March 1, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 1, 2013 Set up for a tug of war? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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