Oxford diecast... whats next?

[Mike Bellamy]

The title of this topic seems rather appropriate at the moment

 

What's next ?

 

I ask the question as yesterday Hornby announced that they were issuing further shares to raise funds to buy 49% of Oxford . . . . . . . . 

 

See here   http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/108082-hornbys-financial-updates-to-the-stock-market/?p=2927234

 

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[Mike Storey]

The title of this topic seems rather appropriate at the moment

 

What's next ?

 

I ask the question as yesterday Hornby announced that they were issuing further shares to raise funds to buy 49% of Oxford . . . . . . . . 

 

See here   http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/108082-hornbys-financial-updates-to-the-stock-market/?p=2927234

 

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Strictly speaking, it is not 49% of Oxford, only of their holding company LCD. Due to other holdings, it means only about 44% of Oxford, and the key issue (which is unknown as the holdings are not available publicly) is the amount into which they have bought into the Chinese / Hong Kong production facility (ies). It is suggested on the Hornby thread, that this amounts to perhaps only 25% of that. But this is subject to shareholder approval, although probably academic, given that around 72% of existing shareholders have already approved the deal. 25% influence is better than none, which they had before. This is all reliant on a £12m equity issue by Hornby, but that seems to have already been allocated (ie bid).

[BritishRail60062]

Any chance of Oxford Diecast doing one of these?

 

Photo credited as appropriate.

TA231 by Matt Payn, on Flickr

 

I would buy atleast 5 of these in 1:76 scale and renumber them as I see fit .

Edited November 21, 2017 by BritishRail60062

[RANGERS]

Any chance of Oxford Diecast doing one of these?

 

Photo credited as appropriate.

TA231 by Matt Payn, on Flickr

 

I would buy atleast 5 of these in 1:76 scale and renumber them as I see fit .

Oxford struggle to get licensing rights from ADL on account of their agreements with another manufacturer. The agreements for the coach range were put in place under the former Plaxton management.

[37114]

Any chance of Oxford Diecast doing one of these?

 

Photo credited as appropriate.

TA231 by Matt Payn, on Flickr

 

I would buy atleast 5 of these in 1:76 scale and renumber them as I see fit .

CMN did a model I have at least 2 sat less than 6ft away from me although not in this livery. Should still be on ebay and an easy respray?

[BritishRail60062]

CMN did a model I have at least 2 sat less than 6ft away from me although not in this livery. Should still be on ebay and an easy respray?

CMNL made the 10.5 metre variant mate. Although this one is the 9.9m SWB version. Also talking of Dennis. I wonder if this means that we will never see a Dennis Dustbin lorry either then? Shame as I would love to own a model of one of those as well .

[RANGERS]

CMNL made the 10.5 metre variant mate. Although this one is the 9.9m SWB version. Also talking of Dennis. I wonder if this means that we will never see a Dennis Dustbin lorry either then? Shame as I would love to own a model of one of those as well .

Dennis Eagle are totally separate from Alexander Dennis, the truck side (but not the fire appliances) were split from the then Transbus owned Dennis parent in around 2002.

Edited November 22, 2017 by RANGERS

[The Black Hat]

If I was to hazard a guess for a Warley annoucement, then my guess would be for;

 

LNE J21

BR Standard 3MT

GW 43xx

 

MGR HAA Hopper

BR Prestwin Twin Silo Wagons

 

I would think they announce one engine and a wagon. I'm not sure about coaching stock, but overall Oxford have a habit of surprising.

[mikeharvey22]

Next week's new items for Oxford Diecast and Oxford Rail now showing online:-

 

https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/new-in?

 

Should please the N gauge supporters to see 3 completely new shapes available.

[Les1952]

The Burlingham Seagull and the van are nice, the car a bit upmarket for most layouts....

 

Les

[Mr chapman]

One thing I would like to see would be the adoption of the era system on road vehicles. For example something like the steam roller marked era-2 or a sprinter van era-9, that sort of thing.

Edited December 22, 2017 by Mr chapman

[BernardTPM]

All you really need is the introduction date - an old vehicle may hang on for years, but a new one can't appear until they're built.

For example, a Jaguar F-Pace would be era 9, but unsuitable for a layout set in 2011.

Edited December 22, 2017 by BernardTPM

[Mr chapman]

All you really need is the introduction date - an old vehicle may hang on for years, but a new one can't appear until they're built.

For example, a Jaguar F-Pace would be era 9, but unsuitable for a layout set in 2011.

Agreed. Old cars are fine and prototypical But whilst I can tell you what was on the rails in the 30-40's I have no clue what was on the road really.

[BernardTPM]

Which is why it would be useful to know the introduction dates.

 

For the pre-war scene there aren't such a big variety to choose from. I did do a list of the kits for the 1920-35 period here.

Edited December 22, 2017 by BernardTPM

[tamperman36]

I have a suggestion for all diecast manufactuers, following on from the introduction of seated passengers within units and coaches could we now start to see drivers and passengers in road vehicles as the vast majority of vehicles seen on layouts are obviously driven by ghosts. It is one of my biggest bugbears when looking at layouts, we spend hours trying to make them look right and then when you see vehicles on roads theres no one in them.

[mikeharvey22]

I have a suggestion for all diecast manufactuers, following on from the introduction of seated passengers within units and coaches could we now start to see drivers and passengers in road vehicles as the vast majority of vehicles seen on layouts are obviously driven by ghosts. It is one of my biggest bugbears when looking at layouts, we spend hours trying to make them look right and then when you see vehicles on roads theres no one in them.

I cannot see this one working. How many occupants? Adults, children, pets, luggage? The variations would be enough to destroy the sanity of the makers, sellers and buyers.

 

Corgi tried it on a bus and coach set, and it was a one off. The appearance was awful but not helped by using 1/64 occupants in 1/76 vehicles. The Hattons' photos reveal the full horror. http://www.hattons.co.uk/241309/Corgi_Collectables_45003Corgi_U03_Stagecoach_Two_Bus_set_Leyland_Olympian_ECW_and_Van_Hool_Alizee_Pre_owned_poo/StockDetail.aspx

 

At least Oxford make it easy to get inside their vehicles, amputate the legs, shorten and bend the arms to reach the steering wheel, and reassemble. But then the vehicle with driver and passengers sits stationary forever on a layout, looking no more convincing then an empty parked vehicle in the same location.

 

This driver is waiting for his mate before setting out on a recovery job.

 

 

I have some motorised buses in 1/148 scale moving on my layout but since the motor mechanism only leaves space for a driver on the lower deck I have not yet fitted them all out. On the other hand passengers on the upper deck tend to draw attention to the "no passengers" lower deck, so actually they look better without passengers upstairs.

Edited December 23, 2017 by mikeharvey22

[PhilJ W]

I have a suggestion for all diecast manufactuers, following on from the introduction of seated passengers within units and coaches could we now start to see drivers and passengers in road vehicles as the vast majority of vehicles seen on layouts are obviously driven by ghosts. It is one of my biggest bugbears when looking at layouts, we spend hours trying to make them look right and then when you see vehicles on roads theres no one in them.

Classix did this in some of their cars and vans. The figures were moulded as an integral part of the chassis/seats, in black plastic. Its all very well adding figures to coaches and locomotives were the added cost is only a small percentage of the overall price but for a 00 scale car costing less than a fiver its not viable. As has been said most of the Oxford range is easily accessible to add figures so perhaps a set of suitably posed figures would not go amiss.

[Mike Storey]

Passengers aside, we do have a very skewed selection of vehicles for the 1970's onwards, until perhaps 2000. Whence the Toyota van, or the Skoda Estelle, just by example? Matters are improving, especially since the Sherpa van and at least one version of the Allegro came on to the market (where is the frigging saloon???), but how many Datsuns, Renault 4's, Renault 12's, and especially 1970's to 1990's lorries (just the Transit Luton alone comes to mind) must we leave out of our sacred re-creations?

[James Makin]

Given Oxford’s specialist subject is knocking out the previous-generation Ford Transit in just about every colour scheme that exists, I’m surprised that they’ve not yet modelled the 2013-onwards Mk8 Transit as the next cash cow - especially as Ford seem to be licensing each model you’d think that they’d be more than happy to assist Oxford with sharing the design detail!

[Norm81]

Given Oxford’s specialist subject is knocking out the previous-generation Ford Transit in just about every colour scheme that exists, I’m surprised that they’ve not yet modelled the 2013-onwards Mk8 Transit as the next cash cow - especially as Ford seem to be licensing each model you’d think that they’d be more than happy to assist Oxford with sharing the design detail!

I'm surprised we still have a gap of no mk2 Transit. I could definitely use one or two.

[The Black Hat]

Any idea when the next Oxford Rail announcements are - given that theres pretty much naff (save a break van) all from Hornby and Bachmann, attention and hopes for 2018 are resting here.

[rembrow]

Any idea when the next Oxford Rail announcements are - given that theres pretty much naff (save a break van) all from Hornby and Bachmann, attention and hopes for 2018 are resting here.

 

I would imagine that any Oxford Diecast/Rail new items for 2018 will be announced at the London Toy Fair, starting on 23 January at Olympia. Oxford are one of the exhibitors. The only other UK outline model railway business that seems to be their is Hornby

Edited January 8, 2018 by rembrow

[truffy]

At least Oxford make it easy to get inside their vehicles, amputate the legs, shorten and bend the arms to reach the steering wheel, and reassemble. But then the vehicle with driver and passengers sits stationary forever on a layout, looking no more convincing then an empty parked vehicle in the same location.

 

No different to the figures scratching their heads, looking at their watches, and running/walking without moving. But it does add a sense of 'presence'.

Edited January 8, 2018 by truffy

[it's-er]

Yes, on the Oxford Diecast Collectors Facebook site it has been confirmed that both Lyndon Davies and Eloise will be updating us on the next tranche of announcements, which are being made at the London Toy Fair. Exact time to be confirmed, but around the 23rd. Not that far away!

 

John Storey

[mikeharvey22]

I would imagine that any Oxford Diecast/Rail new items for 2018 will be announced at the London Toy Fair, starting on 23 January at Olympia. Oxford are one of the exhibitors. The only other UK outline model railway business that seems to be their is Hornby

The Oxford Rail announcements will be at the Toyfair according to the news item on 2 January 2018.

 

http://www.oxfordrail.com/