Bartb Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Does anyone think the electric blue looks a little on the dark side? Yes it looks a little dark to me, perhaps it's because it is a decorated sample. Still very nice though. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Nigh on impossible to tell, considering the light on the model and the camera used, then there's your individual monitor settings and even individuals eye stigmaitisms. And I can guarantee whatever colour it is, I can find a prototype image to match.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 It definatley looked dark to me when I seen it in the cabinet, but as has been said I think it wasn't factory painted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Now there's a thought put a 40 or 47 in front of it on a rake of coaches and have a drag away from the wires, (DCC of course) very tempted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) Nigh on impossible to tell, considering the light on the model and the camera used, then there's your individual monitor settings and even individuals eye stigmaitisms. And I can guarantee whatever colour it is, I can find a prototype image to match.... Exactly... as a case in point, Charles Buchanan's book 'Sparks' has two colour shots of two pairs of AL4s in the same livery on opposing pages, but the rendition of the colours makes one look very pale and the other very much darker. Just to add - one of the above models was shown to some colleagues on the club room layout at Rugby Station recently, all those present remarked on how good the livery looked. (Two of them actually worked on the AL5s in the 60s). Edited December 21, 2011 by Rugd1022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
303013 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 It is a bit like the class 73s - the early BR blue livery E6007 - 012 were delivered in is often described as being Electric Blue, but it wasn't, it was an early version of BR blue complete with a grey stripe along the bottom of the bodyside, cab roof and cab window surrounds. E6013 onwards were delivered in this livery, but minus the grey band (I don't know about the cab roofs and window surrounds). About the only '73 carrying anything remotely like Electric blue must surely have been 73004 (or was it '5?) in the light blue livery carried in the early '90s? Sorry, just saying, like, becuase there are a few preserved '73s out there carrying incorrect liveries. I'm sure it would have been the same if there had been more 'Roarers' saved. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekEm8 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Now there's a thought put a 40 or 47 in front of it on a rake of coaches and have a drag away from the wires, (DCC of course) very tempted. More of Dave's invisible ink ? (See post 53 above) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reevesthecat Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Bachmann website suggests May/June delivery, personally I can't wait!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) cant wait. 30mins in, brief shot of an AL5... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nMpfVh5Itc Edited January 11, 2012 by michael delamar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 cant wait. 30mins in, brief shot of an AL5... Thanks for this - it is a fascinating movie - the AL5 puts in even a few more aoppearances.. Slightly off topic a surprisingly Blue? D244 with late Emblem makes an appearance at 90 mins in... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 90 mins in... sure? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) sure? I am fairly sure about the what I saw - but my timing was a bit off 1:16:40 Edited January 11, 2012 by Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrock Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) Apologies for the double post. Edited January 12, 2012 by Adrock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrock Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Looking at the pictures posted on the thread of the real things operating in the 80's, how did they turn the electric hauled expresses over at Euston and Glasgow? Was another AC electric backed on at the other end ready to take the next train? It may be a silly question but of course we don't see such things these days! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 I am fairly sure about the what I saw - but my timing was a bit off 1:16:40 ahh i know what you mean now , thats a green class 40 this that. ive got that video on both video and dvd, the video quality is better, i think they just took a copy from there own video and converted it to dvd, shame as a lot of colour has been washed out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Looking at the pictures posted on the thread of the real things operating in the 80's, how did they turn the electric hauled expresses over at Euston and Glasgow? Was another AC electric backed on at the other end ready to take the next train? It may be a silly question but of course we don't see such things these days! It was pretty much standard for the loco to sit on the buffers at Central back in pre-DVT days. Another loco would then come in from the layover sidings at the old Bridge Street station and take the train either south or away for servicing. The first loco would often follow the outgoing train to the platform signal then stop and wait for the nod to proceed to wherever it was scheduled to go. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed-farms Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 In other words folks, buy more then one 85! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 13, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2012 Looking at the pictures posted on the thread of the real things operating in the 80's, how did they turn the electric hauled expresses over at Euston and Glasgow? Was another AC electric backed on at the other end ready to take the next train? It may be a silly question but of course we don't see such things these days! By the late 80's and into the early 90's, Euston had the odd class 82 and 83 working ecs stock to/from Wembley. If you want to support Bachmann and DC Kits this would provide an option if your timeframe permits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) Looking at the pictures posted on the thread of the real things operating in the 80's, how did they turn the electric hauled expresses over at Euston and Glasgow? Was another AC electric backed on at the other end ready to take the next train? It may be a silly question but of course we don't see such things these days! I dont think there was a station pilot/shunter. It was the same set up as Lime St, Piccadilly, Euston etc. It was usually another AC loco stabled in the sidings just across the river (visible from the station). This would back onto the train that had arrived from the south then take it out either back south on a service or a few miles up the line to the carriage depot at Polmadie where it might be cleaned or just stabled etc. the released loco could then go to the stabling point or possibly straight onto the front of a returning service to release another loco from the blocks and so on........ its what helped make the hobby interesting back then. these days with the plastic units all the variety and interest has gone. Edited January 13, 2012 by ThaneofFife Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I dont think there was a station pilot/shunter. It was the same set up as Lime St, Piccadilly, Euston etc. It was usually another AC loco stabled in the sidings just across the river (visible from the station). This would back onto the train that had arrived from the south then take it out either back south on a service or a few miles up the line to the carriage depot at Polmadie where it might be cleaned or just stabled etc. the released loco could then go to the stabling point or possibly straight onto the front of a returning service to release another loco from the blocks and so on........ its what helped make the hobby interesting back then. these days with the plastic units all the variety and interest has gone. In their last few years of service the 85's were mainly used for ECS work to and from Piccadilly station and Longsight depot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 One of the class 85's, 85018, used by Longsight for empty stock workings from Manchester Piccadilly. August 1991. Tom. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 One of the class 85's, 85018, used by Longsight for empty stock workings from Manchester Piccadilly. August 1991. Tom. well id say thats a pretty rare photo Tom. well done mate. this has the hallmarks of a limited editions 85. great stuff. oh on the subject of loco release again i dare say many light engines trundled off to Shields Road electric depot a few miles outside of Central (where the APT was based). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark C Posted January 14, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2012 I don't think it's been mentioned here yet - but take a look at Hatton's website for some up close photos of the 'first painted sample'.... Notwithstanding the heavy windscreen wipers (not a criticism...!) it has the Wow factor!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reevesthecat Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I had hoped this would have been out before the Bachmann announcements were due this year so they could gauge sales etc. If sales were good we may have seen another AC loco announced this year! As it stands I think they will sensibly await sales data before announcing another. Still can't wait though looks fantastic! cheers mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed-farms Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I think Bachmann did announce the 2EPB before the 4-CEP hit the shops so assuming they did, they must have known pre-orders were high to do another unit. I don't know how many people have pre-ordered an 85 but they may announce a 2nd electric this year based on the same logic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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