stewartingram Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I'd like to see some close up pics of the mechanism inside the new one as well as the valve gear on the outside. Having been on the rebuild of a couple of the originals, I think I know where the problems were! Stewart 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free At Last Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Didn't someone once buy all 12 of the first release, I wonder if he will be doing the same again. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted December 22, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2019 On 18/12/2019 at 16:10, stewartingram said: I'd like to see some close up pics of the mechanism inside the new one as well as the valve gear on the outside. Having been on the rebuild of a couple of the originals, I think I know where the problems were! Stewart It’ll be useful to know whether or not history will repeat itself.Hopefully not. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hawkins Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 On 18/12/2019 at 16:13, Free At Last said: Didn't someone once buy all 12 of the first release, I wonder if he will be doing the same again. It was me unfortunately and no, not a bloody chance. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikks Posted December 22, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) Did you keep any Brian? I have one but it's never turned a wheel under power, having read of all the issues with them, I purchased a couple of Mashimas from Chris at High Level(very helpful bloke) for insurance, did you have issues with all of them? Rgds...........Mike Edited December 22, 2019 by ikks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted December 22, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2019 Brian. Same question here as ikks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hawkins Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 17 hours ago, ikks said: Did you keep any Brian? I have one but it's never turned a wheel under power, having read of all the issues with them, I purchased a couple of Mashimas from Chris at High Level(very helpful bloke) for insurance, did you have issues with all of them? Rgds...........Mike Hi Mike, yes, I kept them all, only two or three are actually runners the last time I checked though. I obviously had terrible running issues with the rest and made countless trips to Liverpool to exchange defective models only to run them a few days later and end up with the same fault developing, which, was obviously very disappointing to say the least. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagrizz Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Well, I got my heavily weathered 47993 from Tony's Trains in Rugby yesterday and ran it for an hour or so in both directions and all is fine. Very pleased with my xmas prezzie from myself. Graham 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 Rails of Sheffield have received a few according to their webpage.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Had an email from Hatton's informing me that my pre-order is now on it's way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdaley Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I'm looking forward to seeing one of these in serious action. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dragonfly Posted January 7, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) Well, mine is awaiting dispatch from a retailer in Sheffield, however a friend's arrived from a retailer in Liverpool today, so having a play / run in. Very nice, very smooth, very quiet. Edited January 7, 2020 by Dragonfly 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdaley Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Any chance of a bit of video of it in action ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin242 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Mine arrived and is now running on my layout Windermere and Hincaster Junction. There is some video here of it playing with a 33 wagon coal train. https://www.facebook.com/Windermere.Hincaster.Junction.a.00.Model.Railway/ I am delighted with it. its very quiet and smooth running and looks really good. It does not fit in with my West coast mainline layout historically but I am very tempted to add another. It seems really good value for money. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdaley Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Thanks Merlin. Are you running DC or DCC ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WisTramwayMan Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Like Merlin above, I've just taken delivery of 47993 from a retailer in Cheshire, and whilst it's only had a brief run the build quality appears better than the previous batch, of which I've got 2 (both of which are still on their original motors possibly due to pretty low usage and not wanting to tempt fate), and certainly looking at 47988. I certainly hope that (overall) history doesn't repeat itself, or else the photographic grey one may become the most appropriate one of the lot - the white elephant. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin242 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 20 hours ago, amdaley said: Thanks Merlin. Are you running DC or DCC ? Its dcc. with a standard Laisdcc decoder at the moment. However I have ordered a sound chip which is on its way. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted January 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2020 Nock at the door at 10 past 6 and a man handed over me a decent sized package. And inside it I find this, will have to give her a run tomorrow. But a qick 9v battery test Very impressed I like the working lamp ( easily impressed) 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted January 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2020 Just wondering I need to get a dcc chip for this model I am normally a bit of a skinflint on dcc chips. As I only really use it for basic use ie stop go and double heading. But I was wondering if it’s worth lashing out on this one and spending a bit more on a dcc chip Would I see any benefits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daltonparva Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I've noticed Heljan have managed to blacken the hand rails on these new ones, which saves me a job, but are still persisting with shiny running gear, which the big two manufacturers stopped doing donkey's yonks ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, daltonparva said: I've noticed Heljan have managed to blacken the hand rails on these new ones, which saves me a job, but are still persisting with shiny running gear, which the big two manufacturers stopped doing donkey's yonks ago. Indeed so on the handrails, and also the black bodywork looks a lot less "plastiky" than on the original models. You're right about the running gear, but overall a big improvement OOB in appearance. John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 10/01/2020 at 16:07, John Tomlinson said: … the black bodywork looks a lot less "plastiky" than on the original models. That’s a good sign. I’m waiting for the new O2s. The original ones (still lovely models) had the same problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin242 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I have now fitted the loksound 5 chip and speaker supplied by Howes of Oxford and sadly its a great disappointment. The loco still runs well and is probably a bit easier to control at very slow speed. But the sound is hopeless. Its so quiet that you have to be next to the loco to hear it chuff and the whistles are feeble in the extreme. I fitted the loksound 5 chip and speaker and discarded the Heljan installed speaker. Its a bit nerve racking installing it as the loco has to be separated into 3 parts then the boiler removed and I am not looking forward to having to do it again. I have a number of sound locos with Loksound 3.5, 4 Zimo and TTS chips all of which are fine but this is a total waste of almost £120. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Well, I had 10 of the initial Heljan Garratts and enjoyed every one, mostly photographing them as many will know. I sold all but two, and got very good prices, and not once got an engine failure or comeback, but mine never got any layout use so cannot claim knowledge there. I thought the new models by Hattons/Heljan looked very similar, even the rods, and not having seen one in the flesh cannot comment on the finish, but today caved-in and bought one, tossing up between 47988 and 47993 I chose the later, even though the weathering look very basic on both. here are the two from Rails photos; Usual assembly issues appear... rods adrift under boiler, water cap loose on 47988 but rather nice to have the sand boxes factory-fitted. AND WHAT BRILLIANT VALUE compared to costs from 2015 !!!! I was inspired to buy another because they come up so well with extra weathering as per my edited efforts; example below, will remove if required. Cheers and I hope Hattons, Ben Jones and Heljan do well out of this second run. Bravo! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maico Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 49 minutes ago, robmcg said: Well, I had 10 of the initial Heljan Garratts and enjoyed every one, mostly photographing them as many will know. I sold all but two, and got very good prices, and not once got an engine failure or comeback, but mine never got any layout use so cannot claim knowledge there. I thought the new models by Hattons/Heljan looked very similar, even the rods, and not having seen one in the flesh cannot comment on the finish, but today caved-in and bought one, tossing up between 47988 and 47993 I chose the later, even though the weathering look very basic on both. here are the two from Rails photos; Usual assembly issues appear... rods adrift under boiler, water cap loose on 47988 but rather nice to have the sand boxes factory-fitted. AND WHAT BRILLIANT VALUE compared to costs from 2015 !!!! I was inspired to buy another because they come up so well with extra weathering as per my edited efforts; example below, will remove if required. Cheers and I hope Hattons, Ben Jones and Heljan do well out of this second run. Bravo! Nice work. Do you have online gallery? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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