Non-railway modelling

saxokid · April 28, 2020

Started making few more exhausts now for other 1:76 scale hgv"s...

saxokid · May 6, 2020

Been adding german flak damage to my spitfire this evening...

scots region · May 6, 2020

With a hole like that I don't fancy the chances of getting it back to base, all kinds of havoc with the Airflow.

railroadbill · May 6, 2020

As the sun is shining today...

The Fokker DXXI first flew in 1936 and was ordered for the Royal Netherlands East Indies Army Air Force, although in the end they never received any. After Denmark and Finland wanted to build them under licence, the Dutch Army Aviation Group ordered them as well. They had 36 aircraft, which had some success during the German invasion of the Netherlands on 10 -14 May 1940.

The Finnish airforce received 7 Dutch built aircraft and had another 90 built in Finland under licence. They had a lot of success during the Finnish war against Russia, and were still operating after the war in 1949.

Denmark had 3 Dutch built aircraft and a further 10 licence built ones. They started flying them in 1938 but they were destroyed on the ground during the German invasion on April 9 1940.

This model from an MPM 1:72 kit, represents a Danish DXXI that was tested with underwing 20mm Madsen cannon by Fokker at Schipol airfield in May 1938.

Maneuverable but underpowered, it's from an era of fighter development that was soon overtaken by newer designs.

saxokid · May 6, 2020

3 hours ago, scots region said:

With a hole like that I don't fancy the chances of getting it back to base, all kinds of havoc with the Airflow.

Funny you should say :good: ive been looking over pictures of spitfires and other ww2 planes which some how made it back to the bases with flak damage to wings,engines ect.

these were very brave men back then....

westerner · May 6, 2020

6 hours ago, railroadbill said:

As the sun is shining today...

The Fokker DXXI first flew in 1936 and was ordered for the Royal Netherlands East Indies Army Air Force, although in the end they never received any. After Denmark and Finland wanted to build them under licence, the Dutch Army Aviation Group ordered them as well. They had 36 aircraft, which had some success during the German invasion of the Netherlands on 10 -14 May 1940.

The Finnish airforce received 7 Dutch built aircraft and had another 90 built in Finland under licence. They had a lot of success during the Finnish war against Russia, and were still operating after the war in 1949.

Denmark had 3 Dutch built aircraft and a further 10 licence built ones. They started flying them in 1938 but they were destroyed on the ground during the German invasion on April 9 1940.

This model from an MPM 1:72 kit, represents a Danish DXXI that was tested with underwing 20mm Madsen cannon by Fokker at Schipol airfield in May 1938.

Maneuverable but underpowered, it's from an era of fighter development that was soon overtaken by newer designs.

With that cockpit it almost looks like a monoplane version of the Gloster Gladiator.

PhilJ W · May 6, 2020

2 minutes ago, westerner said:

With that cockpit it almost looks like a monoplane version of the Gloster Gladiator.

It used the same engine, a Pegasus XXI IIRC. The Hawker Hurricane was to all intents and purposes a monoplane version of the Hart/Audax etc. with a more powerful engine.

scots region · May 7, 2020

8 hours ago, saxokid said:

Funny you should say ive been looking over pictures of spitfires and other ww2 planes which some how made it back to the bases with flak damage to wings,engines ect.

these were very brave men back then....

Yes, I remember, in squadron in action on the B17, of one plane making it back after a 109 collided with it and almost split it in half. Its very good work you've done, I should've said and I hope my comment didn't come off as disrespectful.

saxokid · May 7, 2020

44 minutes ago, scots region said:

Yes, I remember, in squadron in action on the B17, of one plane making it back after a 109 collided with it and almost split it in half. Its very good work you've done, I should've said and I hope my comment didn't come off as disrespectful.

No not all its nice to chat with you Edward and your kindness :good:

cheers neil..

railroadbill · May 7, 2020

11 hours ago, PhilJ W said:

It used the same engine, a Pegasus XXI IIRC. The Hawker Hurricane was to all intents and purposes a monoplane version of the Hart/Audax etc. with a more powerful engine.

PhilJ W and Westerner, 50 of the later Finnish built ones had Pratt and Whitney twin wasp junior engines which produced 825 hp. the Bristol engines were 830 hp so not very powerful compared to later fighters. Having just looked it up, a contemporary bf-109E had an 1085hp engine and was all metal construction. The Fokker DXXI had a steel tube fuselage with fabric covering and wooden wings, which was apparently standard Fokker construction at the time. So as you say it, like the Hurricane, was effectively a monoplane version of bi-plane technology.

Northmoor · May 7, 2020

36 minutes ago, railroadbill said:

PhilJ W and Westerner, 50 of the later Finnish built ones had Pratt and Whitney twin wasp junior engines which produced 825 hp. the Bristol engines were 830 hp so not very powerful compared to later fighters. Having just looked it up, a contemporary bf-109E had an 1085hp engine and was all metal construction. The Fokker DXXI had a steel tube fuselage with fabric covering and wooden wings, which was apparently standard Fokker construction at the time. So as you say it, like the Hurricane, was effectively a monoplane version of bi-plane technology.

Which shows how good the basic structural and aerodynamic design was, that with a much more powerful Merlin installed (as I'm sure we all know) it was the Hurricane what won the Battle of Britain, not the more famous Spitfire.

PhilJ W · May 7, 2020

1 hour ago, Northmoor said:

Which shows how good the basic structural and aerodynamic design was, that with a much more powerful Merlin installed (as I'm sure we all know) it was the Hurricane what won the Battle of Britain, not the more famous Spitfire.

The Hurricane also had the advantage that it was easier to repair in the field. In fact it wasn't a shortage of aircraft that was the problem in the B-o-B but a shortage of pilots. A monoplane version of the Gladiator with a fixed undercarriage and Merlin engine was contemplated as a 'utility fighter' but was not proceeded with.

Edited May 7, 2020 by PhilJ W

scots region · May 7, 2020

10 hours ago, saxokid said:

No not all its nice to chat with you Edward and your kindness

cheers neil..

Thanks Neil, though it's actually Donald. Edward Beal was an accomplished author on Railway modelling.

sir douglas · May 7, 2020

finally got around to finishing my Christmas present

Finemolds 1:72 Savoia S.21F from Porco Rosso with larger scale figure. nothing i can say about the quality of it, everything went together fine except 1 little part that needed a bit of filing to fit

railroadbill · May 8, 2020

Absolute cracking model, Sir Douglas! May well have to search for one of these!

(Being a big fan of Hayao Miyazaki).

Edited May 8, 2020 by railroadbill

railroadbill · May 8, 2020

We were talking about Hurricanes a few posts back so here's my one. 1:72nd Revell IIc from a while back.

As it's the V-E day commemorations today, perhaps it should represent an aircraft about to take off for a fly past somewhere.

Nick G · May 8, 2020

R/C construction stuff and R/C tugs is my 'other' thing!

saxokid · May 9, 2020

Something im working on at moment is making lift out nuclear flask cell from nuclear flask rail wagon...

Georgeconna · May 27, 2020

Nearly at the end of this build, a Mountfleet Models Clyde puffer 1/24 scale.

just need to finish the rigging for the Jib really and the Rat Lines.

Georgeconna · May 27, 2020

On 06/05/2020 at 21:50, westerner said:

With that cockpit it almost looks like a monoplane version of the Gloster Gladiator.

Edited May 27, 2020 by Georgeconna
Incorrect post.

Georgeconna · May 27, 2020

On 06/05/2020 at 15:40, railroadbill said:

As the sun is shining today...

The Fokker DXXI first flew in 1936 and was ordered for the Royal Netherlands East Indies Army Air Force, although in the end they never received any. After Denmark and Finland wanted to build them under licence, the Dutch Army Aviation Group ordered them as well. They had 36 aircraft, which had some success during the German invasion of the Netherlands on 10 -14 May 1940.

The Finnish airforce received 7 Dutch built aircraft and had another 90 built in Finland under licence. They had a lot of success during the Finnish war against Russia, and were still operating after the war in 1949.

Denmark had 3 Dutch built aircraft and a further 10 licence built ones. They started flying them in 1938 but they were destroyed on the ground during the German invasion on April 9 1940.

This model from an MPM 1:72 kit, represents a Danish DXXI that was tested with underwing 20mm Madsen cannon by Fokker at Schipol airfield in May 1938.

Maneuverable but underpowered, it's from an era of fighter development that was soon overtaken by newer designs.

That Looks excellently constructed and Extremely nice. Lovely Finish too for should I say Danish!

Georgeconna · May 27, 2020

On 23/04/2020 at 20:20, Darius43 said:

1:48 scale Antonov An-2

Before 1:48 injection moulded kits were available, I spotted this kit by an unknown (to me or anyone else with an ignorance of "Russian" text) manufacturer on eBay and subsequently won the auction. The kit had few parts - primarily left and right fuselage halves and solid mainwings and tailplanes. The tailfin was squared off, which made the kit an An-2M. There were no clear parts as the cockpit was moulded in solid plastic with the main fuselage and the plastic parts were quite thick 3 to 5mm in places. There were no detail parts - no interior required with no clear parts - and what little surface detail that existed was heavily engraved - sort of Matchbox on steroids. On the plus side the plastic used was easy to cut and sand and responded well to liquid poly and cyano cements.

I scribed the ribbing effect on the top and bottom surfaces of both mainwings using a large knife and an old photoetch fret as a flexible straightedge - this was quite effective as the pains in my upper right arm testified for the next two weeks. I marked the curved tailfin profile on the kit parts and cut and sanded the parts to shape - removing the rudder at the same time.

I considered leaving the solid canopy in place and painting the glazing panels black but decided that this would not look good in this scale so I cut away the solid canopy. Thus both a new clear canopy and cockpit interior were required. The former was produced by the plunge form method using the solid canopy and a hole cut in the lid of an old cigar box.

The cockpit was scratch built from plastic sheet and steel wire with the help of some of Mike Grant's 1:48 scale instrument decals.

I scribed panel lines on the fuselage halves with an Olfa P-cutter and the aforementioned PE fret and primed the plastic with Halfords grey spray primer. Halfords "Nissan Silver" was used for the BMF scheme. The kit wing struts were somewhat thin and feeble and so I reinforced them by laminating them with plastic card. I rigged the model with Aeroclub "stretchy" rigging thread and javelin struts cut form steel pins. A spare resin engine from a Classic Airframes Hudson, spares box wheels and a prop from a Monogram B-29 (with the cuffs removed) completed the build.

Cheers

Darius