railroadbill Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) This was an original, quite small, it looked smaller than an actual baby would be, but it was hanging from the roof. There are contemporary pics on the net of larger star child props though. Apparently they went through a number of ideas and different versions before they came up with this one. Liz Moore was an artist and sculptor who also designed c3po for star wars... worth a quick look on wilkipedia etc. I've just come across this site http://www.2001italia.it/2013/05/making-starchild-in-2001-tribute-to-liz.html?m=1 which explains how they filmed the star child sequence. And yes this is the actual prop. That site also explains how they made the 7' by 8' moonbase scenery, by pouring plaster over hessian, a technique not unknown in model railway circles! It's described as the same techniques used in Space:1999. Edited December 28, 2020 by railroadbill 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post durham light infantry Posted December 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2020 Tamiya 1/48 Swordfish Mk1 20 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxokid Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 My latest project build,im going for yellow green camo patter on this panzerkemp wagon 161/2... 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxokid Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Ive now penciled in my camo pattern ready for green/brown patches.. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 One thing that has always puzzled me is why so many military modellers seem to concentrate on the (losing) German equipment, as opposed to Allied kit. Is it inherently more interesting technically or something? I did dabble in milmod years ago but kept to softskins, trucks and the like. Mind you, I wasn’t very good... steve 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 6 hours ago, steve1 said: One thing that has always puzzled me is why so many military modellers seem to concentrate on the (losing) German equipment, as opposed to Allied kit. Is it inherently more interesting technically or something? I did dabble in milmod years ago but kept to softskins, trucks and the like. Mind you, I wasn’t very good... steve My guess would be that it's because the Germans produced a much greater variety of kit, due to the slightly dysfunctional way that their state worked. The Allies tended to stick to a smaller number of designs and produce them in huge numbers. The modeller gets more choice with the Germans. 1 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold scottystitch Posted January 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2021 6 hours ago, steve1 said: One thing that has always puzzled me is why so many military modellers seem to concentrate on the (losing) German equipment, as opposed to Allied kit. Is it inherently more interesting technically or something? I did dabble in milmod years ago but kept to softskins, trucks and the like. Mind you, I wasn’t very good... steve From a personal point of view, some of the Axis equipment is more interesting, more purposeful. If we take fighter aircraft, as an example, and look at the BF/ME109 and FW190 and line them up beside Spitfires and Hurricanes, we get the impression that the 109 and 190 mean business. The 109, especially, is a war machine through and through, no question. The Spitfire (and to a lesser extent the Hurricane), with a lineage back to the SE5, whilst it's ability was not in doubt, looks more like it is built for grace first and combat second, at least until we start looking at the Mark 9 and later Griffon-engine examples. Off the top of my head, the only British aircraft I can think off with the same presence was the Typhoon. Loaded for Ground attack, it just looks right. Something similar can be said about armour. There's no doubting Pz.4, 5 and 6 (the Tiger especially) exude strength and power (I'm aware they had their flaws) whereas can the same be said of the Crusader, for instance, or the lumbering Churchill? The Stuart does not look out of place beeing lampooned in Whacky Races and even the M4 Shrerman looks too short and top heavy, although I'm aware of its effectiveness in the right situation. In the end, for me, it's not about the winners or the losers, it's about the presence. Mosquito aside, I'm not at all interested in building or displaying the likes of Lancaster or Spitfire (heaven nows we're bombarded with enough of them anyway - what's that Airfix and Eduard, another new tooled Spitfire..? sigh), but a 48th scale DO-17Z-10 and ME-410? Well, yes please! Best Scott. 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted January 6, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2021 7 hours ago, steve1 said: One thing that has always puzzled me is why so many military modellers seem to concentrate on the (losing) German equipment, as opposed to Allied kit. Is it inherently more interesting technically or something? I did dabble in milmod years ago but kept to softskins, trucks and the like. Mind you, I wasn’t very good... steve 56 minutes ago, pete_mcfarlane said: My guess would be that it's because the Germans produced a much greater variety of kit, due to the slightly dysfunctional way that their state worked. The Allies tended to stick to a smaller number of designs and produce them in huge numbers. The modeller gets more choice with the Germans. A lot of their equipment was obtained from countries that they annexed/invaded. This resulted in a logistical nightmare in obtaining spares for such equipment. Added to that the factories in the occupied countries very rarely worked to full capacity. Also there was a very clever piece of sabotage carried out on every Citroen truck made for the Germans. The full mark on the oil dipstick was moved down a few millimetres meaning that there was insufficient oil in the sump. The Germans never spotted that one. They did however standardize on the Opel Blitz 3 ton truck, examples being turned out by Mercedes amongst others. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted January 6, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2021 In the earliest days of larger scale (1/35-1/32 and 1/24-1/25) plastic armour kits the main source was Japanese companies, such as Tamiya and Nitto. Their range was influenced by their home market, for whom the more famous German tanks were the thing to have. Apart from the late model Sherman there was little Allied armour. By the early 70s there was more variety and Monogram, Italaeri and Esci joined, in closely followed by Airfix and Heller. These and the Japanese makers rapidly introduced Allied subjects along with Japanese and Italian types. However, having got into AFV and softskin modelling in 1972, it was clear that a high proportion of modellers concentrated on German types, and there is still strong interest in them. You can even get models of German types that ended the war as half-built prototypes, or never got off the drawing board. The sheer variety of different types, marks and sub-types appeals to the 'collector' mentality. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erichill16 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 I think the camouflage marking of Axis model is generally more interesting. Towards the end of the war, as paint to official specifications ran out other types were used. Just look at allied tank camouflage compared to German. Towards the end of the war many US aircraft weren’t even painted, just natural metal. Robert 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Erichill16 said: I think the camouflage marking of Axis model is generally more interesting. Towards the end of the war, as paint to official specifications ran out other types were used. Just look at allied tank camouflage compared to German. Towards the end of the war many US aircraft weren’t even painted, just natural metal. Robert That's when you KNOW you've got air superiority. I have seen an illustration in 'US Aircraft of WW2' of a Liberator designated as a 'Bomber Leader' (or something close to). The colour scheme consisted of cloud-like blobs of yellow and pink, making it look as though it had taking a wrong turn out of Haight-Ashbury . It really ought to have had 'Furthur' painted somewhere on it.... 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erichill16 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 36 minutes ago, Fat Controller said: That's when you KNOW you've got air superiority. I have seen an illustration in 'US Aircraft of WW2' of a Liberator designated as a 'Bomber Leader' (or something close to). The colour scheme consisted of cloud-like blobs of yellow and pink, making it look as though it had taking a wrong turn out of Haight-Ashbury . It really ought to have had 'Furthur' painted somewhere on it.... I don’t think these planes crossed the channel, they were used for identification purposes for the others in the raid to form up with before departing for European. B17s were also used. I agree though that natural metal was used due to air superiority. Robert 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted January 6, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2021 Interesting camo schemes occurred elsewhere. The Red Army. whose tanks were generally green with optional whitewash in season, came up with this for operations on the Finnish front. A SU 122 self propelled 122mm howitzer. 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 1 hour ago, petethemole said: Interesting camo schemes occurred elsewhere. The Red Army. whose tanks were generally green with optional whitewash in season, came up with this for operations on the Finnish front. A SU 122 self propelled 122mm howitzer. A "tree-mendous" idea perhaps? steve 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxokid Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I tend to build and collect both german,british and us tanks ect,but theres something i enjoy about ww2 german tanks and there camo patterns 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxokid Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Now started adding dark green camo patches to the panzerkamp wagon.. stil alot more to cover on this.. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium mezzoman253 Posted January 7, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2021 Found this whilst browsing https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blogs/entry/24001-starfighter/ Suggested it be moved here, Rob 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) Going back to the earlier discussion, I've build 8 AFVs and 7 of them have been German (although two were modern), only one, a Challenger 1, was not... A Panzer IV of mine built a few years ago: John Edited January 7, 2021 by johndon 8 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Apart from the excellent finish and the detail (really like the toolbox) what caught me on this is the guy on the turret with binoculars, scanning the sky. It gives a real feeling of danger, enemy aircraft can't be far away and they must finish the repairs very quickly. Terrific! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxokid Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just finished weathering this tonight using both airbrush and drybrush.. 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxokid Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Also been working on another german hanomag half track this evening.. 6 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxokid Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Ive started painting up some waffen ss camo troops now,with the dot pattern camo finish... 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxokid Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Last diorama build is my take on german gun battery with scenery.. 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxokid Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Little more dry brush added to wheels this evening.. 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted January 10, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2021 On 06/01/2021 at 20:31, steve1 said: A "tree-mendous" idea perhaps? steve Birch-ually invisible from any distance, I'd say. Clearly inspired by a dodgy translation of Shakespeare: But when the blast of war blows in our ears, Then imitate the action of the Taiga: 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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