cravensdmufan Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I found that the rigid coupling bars as supplied by Dapol were causing a few derailments over pointwork - especially when propelIing - so I decided to shorten the tension locks. I shortened the couplings by cutting off the tails. Then pulled the NEM pocket out. The shortened coupling is a good tight fit in the empty socket, and a blob of Evo Stick secures it in place. When cemented in it is the correct height. Then I sandwich the wagon good and tight between two locos while the glue set overnight. All very "Heath Robinson" I'm afraid .....but it works! 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaGrange Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 18/01/2019 at 22:39, Foden said: Dont forget the real ones were all painted at different times, in different places and Im sure not with the same batch of paint.....not to mention sitting around in sidings for extended periods of time At least its a better shade of yellow from Dapol than the 'Lemon' they used on the Dutch 73 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Interesting to see all together - makes one realised what a lump the ex-MSV stone opens were .................... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravensdmufan Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 All 3 weathered and close coupled now - very pleased with these Dapol wagons. 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37501 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Good morning modellers, Has anyone tried a short Kadee on their Turbots yet? I have just ordered some No. 17s to fit into the NEM pockets. A rough calculation says that when coupled the top plates will be 11mm apart. Not as close as the supplied coupling bars but a lot closer than the tension locks. Will try them and post some photos. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 23 minutes ago, 37501 said: Good morning modellers, Has anyone tried a short Kadee on their Turbots yet? I have just ordered some No. 17s to fit into the NEM pockets. A rough calculation says that when coupled the top plates will be 11mm apart. Not as close as the supplied coupling bars but a lot closer than the tension locks. Will try them and post some photos. John I have and you’re right; closer than the tension locks but not as close as the coupling bars. I can’t remember which Kadees (probably the short ones) I tried but I didn’t persist. They worked fine but the coupling bars coupled closer, have given me no trouble and don’t cost extra. More fiddly, of course, to take apart for storage and transportation. For compatibility, I fitted Bachmann tension locks to the end of the rakes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium SHerr Posted March 18, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2019 7 hours ago, No Decorum said: I have and you’re right; closer than the tension locks but not as close as the coupling bars. I can’t remember which Kadees (probably the short ones) I tried but I didn’t persist. They worked fine but the coupling bars coupled closer, have given me no trouble and don’t cost extra. More fiddly, of course, to take apart for storage and transportation. For compatibility, I fitted Bachmann tension locks to the end of the rakes. Yes, only slightly better and still a huge gap. It’s a shame as they are really nice models in all other respects. 2 or 3 with fixed coupler and then no17s on the end is bearable if the thing your coupling to has the Kadee sat in line with the buffers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37501 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Many thanks for your replies. I am looking forward to trying them with No. 17 Kadees when they arrive. I am sure they will be a vast improvement on the tension locks with the added flexibility of not having them semi permanently coupled with the bars. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37501 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Here is a comparison showing the supplied tension lock couplings, No. 17 Kadees and the supplied coupling bar. I am very pleased with the Kadees for reasonable close coupling and functionality. A bit of weathering and fading of the paintwork tones them down nicely... John 14 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravensdmufan Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 4 hours ago, 37501 said: Here is a comparison showing the supplied tension lock couplings, No. 17 Kadees and the supplied coupling bar. I am very pleased with the Kadees for reasonable close coupling and functionality. A bit of weathering and fading of the paintwork tones them down nicely... John Really excellent weathering. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37501 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Many thanks. It is mostly Humbrol enamels applied by dry brushing, airbrush and as a wash. Also some Mig Pigment powders. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going2theDogs Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Bought a few of these Dutch Liveried versions earlier in the week from Kerry at Invicta Models in Sidcup - well worth a visit if you are in the area. I have to say these wagons do look very nice indeed & with a bit of weathering will come up a treat. Looking to source some 'stones' around 20mm in size to represent loads seen in the 1990's. Once I get these finished I will post some images here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernMafia Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 New batch on the way I see, delivery late 2019. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Blue Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Does anyone know if they have shrunk that ginormous coupling spacing, sorted the de-railing tendencies, changed the luminous colors and re-tooled the suspicious trussing or any other woopsies mentioned earlier in the thread? Not much of a list 'eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted June 29, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 29, 2019 14 hours ago, Edward Blue said: Does anyone know if they have shrunk that ginormous coupling spacing, sorted the de-railing tendencies, changed the luminous colors and re-tooled the suspicious trussing or any other woopsies mentioned earlier in the thread? Not much of a list 'eh? Sounds as if you perhaps should take the issue up on Dapol’s own consumer website ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravensdmufan Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 14 hours ago, Edward Blue said: Does anyone know if they have shrunk that ginormous coupling spacing, sorted the de-railing tendencies, changed the luminous colors and re-tooled the suspicious trussing or any other woopsies mentioned earlier in the thread? Not much of a list 'eh? Well I was more than happy to do a small bit of work to my 3 wagons. At around £20 each they were terrific value and they now look great on the layout. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
66738 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, cravensdmufan said: Well I was more than happy to do a small bit of work to my 3 wagons. At around £20 each they were terrific value and they now look great on the layout. So was I. Very nice wagons. The colours tone down nicely with a bit of weathering. No problems with derailing, and compared to Kernow’s offering, the truss looks good to me. Another 3 with the different running numbers from the first 3 will finish the rake off nicely. 66738 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Mine run fine too with no derailing. I thought it was the Kernow turbots with the underframe issues. Couple together ok with the provided bar...take a look further up thread. Hope this helps 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37501 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Very happy with mine. They were a pleasure to weather and run well with Kadee No. 17 couplings. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
66738 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 On 28/06/2019 at 16:07, SouthernMafia said: New batch on the way I see, delivery late 2019. Anyone heard anything about these? 66738 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernMafia Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 21/07/2020 at 14:16, 66738 said: Anyone heard anything about these? 66738 Someone must be watching this thread.... Due very soon apparently 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melly Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 On 28/06/2019 at 17:50, Edward Blue said: Does anyone know if they have shrunk that ginormous coupling spacing, sorted the de-railing tendencies, changed the luminous colors and re-tooled the suspicious trussing or any other woopsies mentioned earlier in the thread? Not much of a list 'eh? Judging by the video above - me thinks the answer is NO !!! :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Melly said: Judging by the video above - me thinks the answer is NO !!! :-) Its the latest luddite issue from a number of manufacturers - thinks the Oxford N7 and the forthcoming Rapdo / Model Rail 16xx for example, the solution is to use a NEM 363 mount but aside from ViTrains the UK model scene has been devoid of them. Their might be opening for someone to sell a NEM 363 mount that fits into the fixed V part of a 362 together with appropriate tension locks and links provided to suppliers of 363 couplings of different types - their is for example a 363 conversion kit for NEM Kadees. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley47708 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 The video was interesting as I wasnt aware you could modify the sides of the oo version. Will need to have a look at my current wagons. Seems the OO version may be more flexible than the O for this feature. Re earlier comments about derailing I had some issues on a couple of specific spots on the layout where nothing else derailed. I relaid the track and they run without any issues. Do think the Kernow yellow is better but went for these ones, just building up courage to tone the yellow down with a spot of weathering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clagsniffer Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Just had email from Hattons confirming the latest batch are due in stock sometime in August. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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