Mike G Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Thanks for the replies. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted February 4, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 4, 2017 Not if it's the diesel mechanical (DM) with jackshaft. The PWM's were all diesel electric, (DE).[/quote The frame plates were all identical,there is a cut out for the gearbox on all of them.If it wasn't needed a blanking plate was bolted in. Even the outside frame narrow gauge DE was like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted February 9, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2017 As promised photos of the first build of the RH 165 0-6-0. Slater's 7838i are just about right for RH locos. This model is based on some DMs supplied to NCB, others had the drive on the centre crankpin via a connecting rod. This will be in the kit as an alternative option. Close up of the trailing end, the cut out in the frames is filled by the gearbox. This is the trailing end of PWM 650 showing the cut out with a plate bolted in behind as there is no gearbox in this DE View from underneath, for speed I've built this one rigid but the usual compensation option will be included. Drive would be on the leading axle. One of the narrow gauge versions which will also be available, this is a 9mm scale model of "Orbell", a 3'6" gauge industrial DE built for New Zealand. The 165 0-6-0 was also built in 1000mm gauge, at least one (a DM) still in Norway. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) Looking nice. Is the later RH badge with the inverted triangle included? It can be seen in the third to sixth photos: http://flickriver.com/photos/tags/pwm650/interesting/ Edited February 9, 2017 by JeffP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted February 9, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2017 Yes, they are only on the DEs, they detail the electrical equipment used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Thanks Mike, I saw it said BTH (British Thompson-Houston), but didn't want to look daft again. You think you know a class, then along comes someone with knowledge in depth......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Kynaston Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Hi, Im relatively new to rmWeb - but can you advise what your Sentinel 325hp 0-6-0DH kit is like to build in 7mm please? Fairly easy or hard? Also which motor and gears was it designed to use? Does it include wheels or do these need to be acquired separetly from Slaters? Are there any plans to make any other 4mm 0-6-0 diesel kits available in 7mm, specifically the Hunslet 562hp 75T 0-6-0DE? CheersRichie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted February 15, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2017 Not too difficult, wheels (Slater's 7125) are not supplied. These are on 1/8th axles so a gearbox for this axle size will be required. The outside cranks are built up from etched layers and pressed on to axle extensions (supplied in the kit) which fit on the extended Slater's axles. There is no suggested motor in the instructions but drive needs to be on the leading axle, the radiator end is 50mm from the axle and the engine casing will accommodate motors up to 28mm diameter. An accurately printed CAD drawing of the whole loco is provided so it's easy to check what will fit in it, the motor and gearbox do have to be fitted quite early in the building sequence though as it isn't possible to dismantle the axles once the cranks are fitted. Plenty more diesel shunters in the pipeline, next one will be the Ruston 48DS (next month), followed by Ruston 165 (DE or DM) 0-6-0 and the SR Paxman 11001. Test etches waiting to be built include Hunslet 05 (original, not the one Heljan are producing), Hunslet 50T 0-6-0DH, Harton No2/No10 0-4-0, Hunslet 16in 0-6-0ST and EE/HL 0-6-0DE. Hunslet 75T 0-6-0 isn't in our immediate plans though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted February 23, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 23, 2017 Just finished the fifth Princess for Carlisle, this one will be 46204 Princess Louise. I thought I had built 46204 earlier, then discovered that it got one of the original boilers in 1958 so that one had to be re-numbered. This time 46204 has the correct boiler for the period of the layout. This time, instead of using the Comet kit I etched the 10T tender - before anyone asks this is not on a production etch. Axleboxes not fitted as this is another red one, I prefer green ones myself. The other side, aws fitted by this date. Nickel silver parts are all etched, the boiler rolled from .010" brass, firebox from .010" steel shim with washout plugs set in lead sheet on the inside. There was so much lead in the firebox that the loco tipped backwards on test and some weight had to be added in the smokebox. The rest of the weight (up to about 650g) will go in after painting and sound fitting. Gibson wheels on this one and powered with a Comet MGB1 and Maxon motor. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I'm late to the party, I know, but... A K4 in 4mm at some time? Yes please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted February 23, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 23, 2017 Just finished the fifth Princess for Carlisle, this one will be 46204 Princess Louise. DSCF3968.JPG I thought I had built 46204 earlier, then discovered that it got one of the original boilers in 1958 so that one had to be re-numbered. This time 46204 has the correct boiler for the period of the layout. DSCF3971.JPG This time, instead of using the Comet kit I etched the 10T tender - before anyone asks this is not on a production etch. Axleboxes not fitted as this is another red one, I prefer green ones myself. DSCF3969.JPG The other side, aws fitted by this date. Nickel silver parts are all etched, the boiler rolled from .010" brass, firebox from .010" steel shim with washout plugs set in lead sheet on the inside. There was so much lead in the firebox that the loco tipped backwards on test and some weight had to be added in the smokebox. The rest of the weight (up to about 650g) will go in after painting and sound fitting. Gibson wheels on this one and powered with a Comet MGB1 and Maxon motor. beautiful!.. shed cleaned and a bit of sound?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigan Wallgate OO Gauge Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Any updates on the feasibility of an NZR de class? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted March 16, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 16, 2017 Any updates on the feasibility of an NZR de class? It doesn't present any real problems other than a rather difficult bogie pattern to make but I'm not sure when I would be able to fit this into my crowded schedule. The present NZ job (1:48 scale Dsc) is running late and there is one more in the list for this year. The bogie pattern for this is going to take some time, I didn't do this part of the job for the original 9mm scale model. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted March 16, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 16, 2017 Our 50th loco kit is now ready and will be on sale this weekend at Nottingham. This is the Brush/Beyer Peacock 200hp 0-4-0DE, popular with steelworks in the UK and Yugoslavia (now Macedonia). This one is modelled as the well known BR example D2999 which had a cut down cab roof, the normal one is supplied as well. Price is £50, postage £3.50 The display model split into its component parts. The inner frames from below, usual compensation system with one axle fixed for the motor to drive on. As with our Sentinel kits shouldered 2mm axles are provided for the wheels and cranks. No gearbox or bearings added to the compensated end for this purely display model. We are moving gradually to using lost wax castings for some of the more vulnerable components, in this case the axlebox lubricators and pipework under the cab are in this material. Other mouldings atre the usual resin, the axleboxes are moulded complete for anyone who would like to use the outside frames as in the full size locos but I prefer to cut a slot in them to allow the inner frames to drop out. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philbax Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Love the Princess Mike, Does your renumbered 42604 have the shorter firebox? Oh, doesn't the carlisle layout need some duchesses!!!! hint hint! Phil Edited March 16, 2017 by philbax Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted March 16, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 16, 2017 Yes 46204 has one of the original boilers. Carlisle has a 24 Duchesses, mostly DJH but three of my scratchbuilds from the 1980s, we really don't need any more.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel W Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Hi Mike I've been meaning to purchase one of your Industrial loco kits for some time now, but I'm unsure which to go with. I was quite keen on the 'North British/Paxman 0-4-0DH', but that Brush shunter is very nice too. Which would you say is the better option for a new comer to loco building? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted March 17, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 17, 2017 I would suggest the North British for a newcomer, outside frames and flycranks are more of a complication. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 17, 2017 I would suggest the North British for a newcomer, outside frames and flycranks are more of a complication. The complete and ready to go Barclay is an idea? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted March 17, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 17, 2017 The complete and ready to go Barclay is an idea? Mike. Barcaly? the only complete kits are the Ruston 48DS and 88DS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Our 50th loco kit is now ready and will be on sale this weekend at Nottingham. WP_20170316_13_33_03_Pro.jpg WP_20170316_13_32_47_Pro.jpg This is the Brush/Beyer Peacock 200hp 0-4-0DE, popular with steelworks in the UK and Yugoslavia (now Macedonia). This one is modelled as the well known BR example D2999 which had a cut down cab roof, the normal one is supplied as well. Price is £50, postage £3.50 WP_20170316_12_50_32_Pro.jpg The display model split into its component parts. WP_20170316_12_41_18_Pro.jpg The inner frames from below, usual compensation system with one axle fixed for the motor to drive on. As with our Sentinel kits shouldered 2mm axles are provided for the wheels and cranks. No gearbox or bearings added to the compensated end for this purely display model. WP_20170316_12_40_57_Pro.jpg We are moving gradually to using lost wax castings for some of the more vulnerable components, in this case the axlebox lubricators and pipework under the cab are in this material. Other mouldings atre the usual resin, the axleboxes are moulded complete for anyone who would like to use the outside frames as in the full size locos but I prefer to cut a slot in them to allow the inner frames to drop out. Hi Mike I'll send you a PM but basically I would like two of these for collection at Railex Aylesbury if you can. Regards Grahame Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel W Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I would suggest the North British for a newcomer, outside frames and flycranks are more of a complication. Thanks for the swift response, I am likely going to be at scalefour north, so will pic one up then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted March 19, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2017 It doesn't present any real problems other than a rather difficult bogie pattern to make but I'm not sure when I would be able to fit this into my crowded schedule. The present NZ job (1:48 scale Dsc) is running late and there is one more in the list for this year. WP_20170316_11_35_57_Pro.jpg The bogie pattern for this is going to take some time, I didn't do this part of the job for the original 9mm scale model. Hi Michael, How are the brake blogs and brake rigging done on that NZ diesel - are they white metal or lost wax castings? Also, sorry if this is being cheeky - not looking to get secrets out of your at all! - but how were the vents in the bodyside bonnet doors created? Are they somehow moulded into the brass sheet when its etched? Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) Hi Mike. My mate Ruston has expressed a wish to have one of the new Brush locos in OO and we will possibly do a bit of bartering/horse trading to get him one. I am assuming that the fly-cranks are made up of 2 laminated layers? When you say the axles are shouldered down from 2mm, what diameter are the ends? I also assume that you have a 'recommended' gearbox and motor - could you say which ones? Thanks in anticipation! See you at S4N. Where I too may be persuaded to exchange beer vouchers for bits of etched brass etc. Edited March 19, 2017 by 5050 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 19, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2017 Barcaly? the only complete kits are the Ruston 48DS and 88DS. Apologies for muddying the water, I was inferring complete with regard to wheels and axles. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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