RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted December 21, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2020 5 hours ago, daveyb said: Yes, poorly worded there, for certain! I meant similar in design rather than 'that'll do'. Bogie design for the EM1 is already done, I have a pair to build for WJ at the moment. The design is much the same as the EF1 with Mitsumi motors. This is an earlier version with Mashima 14x26 motors and flywheels. Press studs for pivots and a simple square tube frame to fit in the DC kits resin body. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cram Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 10 hours ago, Michael Edge said: The EE bogies have Roadrunner gearboxes and Mabuchi motors but you wouldn't need that much power for an EF1. The Roadrunner at 8.7mm is about the narrowest of the HL boxes, chains are 4mm wide, 14.5mm between my EM frames. Sprockets are the smallest available - 8T, 1/8th axle. The bogie stretchers in the NER kits give a distance of 13.5mm between frames so it would be a bit tighter here. I have used chain drive in a 00 gauge EE1 but in that case I used a Branchlines slimline gearbox which is 6.5mm wide. Thanks for that information. Looks like I'll need to order one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted December 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2020 8 hours ago, Michael Edge said: Bogie design for the EM1 is already done, I have a pair to build for WJ at the moment. The design is much the same as the EF1 with Mitsumi motors. This is an earlier version with Mashima 14x26 motors and flywheels. Press studs for pivots and a simple square tube frame to fit in the DC kits resin body. Good old press studs. I use them for semi-permanently coupled coaches too. A good trick is to use a male half one size smaller than the female half, to get nice free movement. 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_Under Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Here is a pic of the mod0.5 gear train in a Heljan c.16. Mostly all 12-15t sprockets from memory 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post Michael Edge Posted December 24, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2020 I'll have to give that gear train some thought, the gears are readily available. Meanwhile I got the test etch for the SR 0-6-0DE out. Quite a lot of work actually for only a couple of days. The inner frame is one temporary Romford wheels, all I had in this size to set it up on. It has th eusual compensation system. Footplate assembled with the inner part of the cab floor, the cab bolts on separately at the moment. The engine casing is just a skeleton framework with plenty of detail parts to add. The outer frames are left off for now as I wanted to make sure that the bottom of the engine casing/cab is flat and square first. There are twelve 14BA screws holding this together now - 14 holes showing above because the back two for the engine casing had to be moved forward to clear the cab front. The frame complications caused by the SR needing 4ft 6in diameter wheels made this design a lot more difficult than the original EE version - at least I don't need BoxPok type wheels for this pre-Bulleid loco. The cab is more or less finished apart from interior details, some adjustment was required for the front and back - the back came out too low after bending and the front was too high because I had forgotten that it pegged into the casing base rather than the footplate. The angled rear windows are a bit of a pain but seem to have worked out OK, the frame round the side window was so thin and delicate that I abandoned it and made it up from .3mm wire. Incidentally I have one photo of No.2 with no windows in the back - were they originally built without them? This is going to be a complicated kit, like all the other large DEs, it was certainly complicated to draw. 17 2 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 The complications are inevitable (but it does look good, thus far). I know that they weren’t remotely Western Section machines but I don’t suppose I’ll be able to resist. Lots of space for a good size flywheel in there... Adam 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffordshire Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Brilliant news about the progress of the SR 0-6-0 DE ..... Happy Christmas 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted December 29, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 29, 2020 Prompted by some comments on my workbench thread I got round to some pattern making yesterday. This is the Sentinel oil fired 0-6-0 which has been gathering dust up there for quite a few years now. Patterns done for the boiler (not much detail on this as I have no photographs of it) and sandboxes at top. Next row, headlights and enormous dumb buffers for the Dorman Long locos, also something which I think is to do with fuelling. Bottom row two alternative toolboxes - at least I can't find a photo of a loco with both of these. It will still be a good while before this kit appears, I have a heavily altered second test etch to build - this one will be the normal height cab version as supplied to GKN. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 At last Mike! Can't wait! Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted December 29, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 29, 2020 On 24/12/2020 at 07:44, Michael Edge said: I'll have to give that gear train some thought, the gears are readily available. Meanwhile I got the test etch for the SR 0-6-0DE out. Hi Mike, Lovely work - so good I'm not sure if it is 4 or 7mm? Good luck with the first build. Assuming the kit is 4mm I will certainly have one thanks. First exam I took part in as an apprentice was 15201 at Eastleigh DD in 1964. The loco was scrapped later that year if it wasn't already!! Kind regards, Richard B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted December 29, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 29, 2020 4mm for now - almost everything starts at this scale, others follow in time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Moore Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Mike is the sentinel the one used at Lackenby? You can sign me up for one of them Cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Moore Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 On 19/12/2020 at 15:18, Michael Edge said: I've been working on replacement drive systems for the 6w Steelman kit since it looks as though the Bullant drive isn't going to be around much longer. I've etched two options so far, this is the first one I've got running. It mimics the Bullant and fixes with the same screws, uses .5 module plastic worm and pinion gears. The other option is fully compensated but doesn't have any drive system - in wider gauges it wouldn't be difficult to use chains to connect the axles but it's a tight squeeze in 00. If these tests are successful I can move on to the GEC 6w DE. Im glad you have come up with a solution for this kit Mike. It had put me off with the bullant drive no longer available. I had always wondered if these could be run on a high level gearbox like whats used in the 48 & 88ds. I will be in touch about one of these soon. I think i have all the other thomas hill kits you have done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted December 30, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 30, 2020 Most of the Sentinel 0-6-0s were built for Dorman Long (Lackenby), three were built for GKN with normal height cabs - they also ended up with DL. There was one prototype, trialled on the Shropshire & Mongomeryshire, eventually on loan at DL before scrapping. Two were rebuilt into the first 0-6-0DH locos, also for DL, this is the origin of the unnecessarily low cab roof in all the Sentinels and also the rather difficult brake gear which came straight from the steam locos. Thanks for posting the photos of your Steelman Royale in your own thread as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Moore Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 On 30/12/2020 at 13:17, Michael Edge said: Most of the Sentinel 0-6-0s were built for Dorman Long (Lackenby), three were built for GKN with normal height cabs - they also ended up with DL. There was one prototype, trialled on the Shropshire & Mongomeryshire, eventually on loan at DL before scrapping. Two were rebuilt into the first 0-6-0DH locos, also for DL, this is the origin of the unnecessarily low cab roof in all the Sentinels and also the rather difficult brake gear which came straight from the steam locos. Thanks for posting the photos of your Steelman Royale in your own thread as well. Mike i look forward to one of those sentinels there was a video that cropped up recently that featured the DL sentinels. I will see if i can find it again. My Steelman i am hoping to have finished by weekend & the paintwork started. Its going to be a BSC loco from teesside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenTheTunnels Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Hi @Michael Edge, I note on your website listing you show the Normanby Park shunters (are these currently available in 4mm?) with a comment that they are actually half of the big Scunthorpe Bo-Bo design. Do you happen to produce a kit for the Scunthorpe version at all? Cheers Richie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Happy New Year Mike, Thanks for all the interesting posts throughout the year. That SR DE looks fantastic. I'll certainly be interested in at-least one when they go up! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted January 1, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 1, 2021 Yes, I've seen the Dorman Long film, the only colour pictures I've ever seen of the Sentinels. The Scunthorpe Bo-Bo has always been in our list of things to do but it keeps being put back.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Moore Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Rochdale road the 562hp Hunslet is a belting kit for your money. Mike i hope you do the Hunslet bo bo it would go nicely with this one. I know someone who would probably have a few of those too. That DL Sentinel has got me very excited that will go nicely with the steelman I'm currently doing. Its going to be painted in BSC teesside colours 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenTheTunnels Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 12 hours ago, Rhb Simon said: Rochdale road the 562hp Hunslet is a belting kit for your money. Simon, Many thanks for that, it really is a stunning kit isn't it. How did you find it went together? I am thinking an initial build of one will need to take place .. followed by another couple for internal steel movements on the big layout, when its built! Richie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Moore Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 14 hours ago, Rochdale Road said: Simon, Many thanks for that, it really is a stunning kit isn't it. How did you find it went together? I am thinking an initial build of one will need to take place .. followed by another couple for internal steel movements on the big layout, when its built! Richie Richie as long as you follow the instructions & take care its straight forward. I have made plenty of Mike's kits & they are well designed, with excellent part fit. They are also great value for money. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium readingtype Posted January 3, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 3, 2021 On 20/11/2019 at 17:57, Michael Edge said: First test etch of the Stone Faiveley single arm pantograph built today. I hope you can forgive me cutting to the chase, skipping the subsequent 16 pages and asking whether this has reached the point of being buyable? I can't see it here https://ukmodelshops.co.uk/catalogue/judithedge.html but that might be because I am blind as well as impatient :-) I actually have my fingers crossed for the later version with the two additional tubes and arch on the upper arm (forearm??) as fitted to class 86 and lots and lots of EMUs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted January 3, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 3, 2021 We are waiting for the production etches, they should have been in the order we got just before Christmas but weren't, presumably they will be in our next order or on back order from the first one. We'll try to check next week now all the holidays are over. I've only done the original version, it can probably be modified to look like the later ones. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Asterix2012 Posted January 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2021 Mike are you planning to put your DG coupling design into production? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted January 3, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 3, 2021 Not at the moment but Wizard might, Andrew has all the details and etch drawings. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now