RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted October 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2017 Now I'm confused, because the only photos I have seen which show the stripe at the back of the recess depict models, not the prototype. Geoff Endacott A google search came up with quite a few images showing the stripe. This for example: http://www.davidheyscollection.com/00-0-a-dp-rowland-strathyre.jpg Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Sandpiper Posted October 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2017 Here's another - looks like the stripe in the recess is starting to get very dirty along its top edge. https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/36413932312 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Now I'm confused, because the only photos I have seen which show the stripe at the back of the recess depict models, not the prototype. Geoff Endacott Two links provided in my post were of the prototype? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Oh yes. So if the model doesn't have a stripe, we need to add it - and then weather the model until the stripe can't be seen! Sorted. Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I think this was discussed way back when. It was a good few years ago. I do remember what I did with mine. A short length of the diagonal stripe decal as used on 16t minerals fits perfectly. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted October 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2017 Oh yes. So if the model doesn't have a stripe, we need to add it - and then weather the model until the stripe can't be seen! Sorted. Geoff Endacott And the await the numerous photos posted of your chosen prototype ex-works without the stripe? That sort of thing always seems to always happen... Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class29returns Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 New Hattons email has new batch of class 27s in various liveries,seem to be mostly renumbers of previous sold liveries(with addition of scotty dogs etc) i always trip up over exact wording of each livery so i will leave it for fellow posters to list the forthcoming releases Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raetiamann Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Of the TOPS locos, there will be a 27/1, 3 27/0s; one each from ED, IS & HA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Scottish-Exile Posted December 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 5, 2018 New Hattons email has new batch of class 27s in various liveries,seem to be mostly renumbers of previous sold liveries(with addition of scotty dogs etc) i always trip up over exact wording of each livery so i will leave it for fellow posters to list the forthcoming releases Website says scheduled between June-September 2019. Time to start saving some pennies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Of the TOPS locos, there will be a 27/1, 3 27/0s; one each from ED, IS & HA Interesting - shame Heljan are not doing a 27/2 also.......27 029 AFAIR never carried a "Highland Rail" branded Stag, only the earlier smaller black Stag's head on a Yellow background............... https://www.flickr.com/photos/d33206hg/6335273155/in/photolist-aDPVZv-36ifH7-bWA4Cc-bDwkga-e2cp8z-UMw7MH-naUega-fBAMXC-2bHts41-d15qT5-jQzRAE-acwUZ6-YEUqwh-db2GYa-7CpbF9-6fmxD5-4AhBqX-7SfpAt-vmGFbh-DGBVsd-cohEaY-SigJF4-2WUpB7-e62SXt-amoh9R-8MUhYr-joQzsz-JeYvH-cmMH59-24QzQdb-5xos77-dY57Nj-qSAdoT-5z77ry-dtQfxc-GoEwvx-Bqd8HE-8HbxfC-62EoJy-E1zvi-bTcACT-GsKTV2-7CFHtx-9BXNWy-X8T6fZ-7g3w9P-21NUTCv-2bhayU3-8pZy2t-81SNHK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted December 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 5, 2018 Interesting - shame Heljan are not doing a 27/2 also.......27 029 AFAIR never carried a "Highland Rail" branded Stag, only the earlier smaller black Stag's head on a Yellow background............... https://www.flickr.com/photos/d33206hg/6335273155/in/photolist-aDPVZv-36ifH7-bWA4Cc-bDwkga-e2cp8z-UMw7MH-naUega-fBAMXC-2bHts41-d15qT5-jQzRAE-acwUZ6-YEUqwh-db2GYa-7CpbF9-6fmxD5-4AhBqX-7SfpAt-vmGFbh-DGBVsd-cohEaY-SigJF4-2WUpB7-e62SXt-amoh9R-8MUhYr-joQzsz-JeYvH-cmMH59-24QzQdb-5xos77-dY57Nj-qSAdoT-5z77ry-dtQfxc-GoEwvx-Bqd8HE-8HbxfC-62EoJy-E1zvi-bTcACT-GsKTV2-7CFHtx-9BXNWy-X8T6fZ-7g3w9P-21NUTCv-2bhayU3-8pZy2t-81SNHK which is what Heljan are producing according to larger images elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47423 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I have preordered 27012. But I should have boiler water tanks under it. Can anyone confirm the model will have them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) which is what Heljan are producing according to larger images elsewhere. Not according to this image.....unless you have another/different photo link................? https://www.hattons.co.uk/426024/Heljan_2718_Class_27_27029_in_BR_blue_with_Highland_Rail_emblem/StockDetail.aspx Edited December 5, 2018 by tractor_37260 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) I have preordered 27012. But I should have boiler water tanks under it. Can anyone confirm the model will have them? I'm sure Ben will be perusing this thread in due course. TBH the graphics shown aboved are hardly error-free, boiler water tanks dropping off left, right and centre, and D5369's small yellow panels having spread all over both ends, for starters! Edited December 5, 2018 by 'CHARD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbos Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 An interesting decision to produce 27 001 in green, 27s in green with TOPS numbers were very rare as the Scottish depots seemed to be quite enthusiastic for the BR all over blue. 27 001 was only in green TOPS numbered for a short time and was ‘heavily weathered’. I wonder if this is Heljan following Bachmann with they’re green TOPS numbered 20 and 25. A 27/2 would require re-tooling the moulds for what was a small specialist sub-group which in their E&G days were rarely seen anywhere else and post E&G were withdrawal prone and became part of the 27/0 non boilered fleet. Anyone wanting to model a 27/2 then Shawplan produce the grills. 27 012 is a definite for me and the other blue TOPS will depend on what my credit card can sustain/big lottery win. Great time to be a Scottish railway modeller. Thank you Heljan. Brian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 £110 a pop seems a great price though........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Scottie Dog? Scottie Dog? Noooooooo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Scottie Dog? Scottie Dog? Noooooooo Maybe they don't have Westie's in Denmark....lol... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Looks like it's going to be 27012 for me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Mac Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 £110 a pop seems a great price though........ Wasn’t that long go, there were bowls of collective anguish as we approached the physiological price point of a £100 a loco.... Now it seems like a bargain! Lol.... Another pair of 27’s ordered.... that should finish my BRCW type 2’s! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 An interesting decision to produce 27 001 in green, 27s in green with TOPS numbers were very rare as the Scottish depots seemed to be quite enthusiastic for the BR all over blue. 27 001 was only in green TOPS numbered for a short time and was ‘heavily weathered’. I wonder if this is Heljan following Bachmann with they’re green TOPS numbered 20 and 25. A 27/2 would require re-tooling the moulds for what was a small specialist sub-group which in their E&G days were rarely seen anywhere else and post E&G were withdrawal prone and became part of the 27/0 non boilered fleet. Anyone wanting to model a 27/2 then Shawplan produce the grills. 27 012 is a definite for me and the other blue TOPS will depend on what my credit card can sustain/big lottery win. Great time to be a Scottish railway modeller. Thank you Heljan. Brian. 27012 was definately boilered so should have the boiler water tanks underneath. regarding the 27/2s, in addition to the bodyside louvres for the ETH genny in the old boiler compartment, and the ETH cables and sockets on the ends, I guess the boiler room roof was also modified with an exhaust for the Deutz diesel and no boiler exhaust, safety valves etc. I guess these Heljan class 27s are simply "more of the same" with the "low relief" bogie bolsters, and what about the lighting ? is it still bulbs or LEDs ? I agree they are a good price notwithstanding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted December 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 8, 2018 I'm hoping those are just livery diagrams and the boiler details will be correct. However 2731 - D5369 in BR green with small yellow panels - £110.46 illustrates a loco with full yellow ends, a livery 5369 did not carry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anadin Dogwalker Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 27012 should also have sliding, not drop-sash, windows, being one of the former tablet catcher fitted locos. Has Heljan done this variant this in blue before (other than the 26s)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbb Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Should D5380 be green with small and not full yellow panels? Only seen images with this scheme Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Should D5380 be green with small and not full yellow panels? Only seen images with this scheme Of the two that were painted two tone green, one was SYPs and the other was full yellow panels - for a while at least. It is my unconfirmed hunch that 5380 and 5382 were prepared to work the Royal Train on a particular job. They both received Royal train communication circular blanking covers which is a giveaway for Royal Train working. There was a Royal Train working along the Midland Mainline which I think may have changed locos at Leicester overnight and which headed up to somewhere in Yorkshire. The Royal Party were supposed to fly back from the engagement but from what I remember the weather was pretty shocking and I think they returned by rail. Never found proof that this pair worked this particular train but the odds are on, and I think it was diagrammed 2x1250hp boiler fitted type twos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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