shortliner Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) Craig - when you say 3 pairs of long points are we talking about 3 points? or 6 points?, and then total number of short points? - What we also need to know how many of each variety are left hand? and how many are right hand? Again with the curved ones? Short box cars and others 36'-40' pre-suposes either steam era or fairly early diesels - later cars of around 50' are again mainly early and slightly later diesel era and the much longer cars are more modern - tjis is a very simplified breakdown. If something can be designed around the points (turnouts) that you already have so much the better, but we actually need to know which direction they turn. Edited February 28, 2012 by shortliner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) I have 1 asymmetric 3 way turnout .. 3 long right hand turnouts 3 long left hand turnouts .. 3 short left hand turnouts 3 short right hand turnouts 1 double slip and 1 short Y turnout ..I thought I had curved turnouts I guess i never purchased them, sorry for the confusion Edited February 28, 2012 by craig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Thanks Craig - that tells me what I need to know - I shall go away and put my "thunking" hat on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) Craig - a trackplan for your space - it also has a Budd RDC (Diesel rail car) passenger service that runs in hourly, at which point the other vehicles must be out of the way - just to make switching a little more difficult! - use a kitchen timer and set it for whatever you consider a "scale hour". It is drawn for 40' cars and a 44 -Tonner but any small loco like an SW7/1200 could be used. The first diagram shows the track plan and the second shows it "populated" I have used switches (points) that you have available. Working left to right I've used Double slip/Long RH/Long LH/short Y/long LH/Long LH.No extra sidings are needed as the "staging" is hidden behind Packaging Inc, unless you wanted to add a short LH point and an extra siding in there for the RDC, to save having to remove it each time it runs! The trackplan is based on an O Gauge one in ammo boxes, by an Australian Gent that appeared in SMT many years ago. On his the two tracks bottom right were a car-float Edited February 29, 2012 by shortliner 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) Another trackplan, that would work well in your space, is "Arendtown" being built by Fabrice Ffayolle as a tribute to Carl on the French "TEAMTRACK" forum http://teamtrack.xooit.com/t873-Arendtown.htm It is O Gauge, so will reduce to your space if built in HO. The trackplan is here Http://img71.xooimage.com/files/8/6/e/upalocalyard-2da6b2d.jpg Edited February 29, 2012 by shortliner 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) Craig, I really don't want this area cluttered up with non-layout track plan questions. Try www.walthers.com and have a browse through their Structures area. Thanks. Best, Pete. Edited March 1, 2012 by trisonic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Another trackplan, that would work well in your space, is "Arendtown" being built by Fabrice Ffayolle as a tribute to Carl on the French "TEAMTRACK" forum http://teamtrack.xoo...3-Arendtown.htm It is O Gauge, so will reduce to your space if built in HO. The trackplan is here Http://img71.xooimag...ard-2da6b2d.jpg Hi I started to place turnouts on a base board last night based on your trackplan and I discovered some extra turnouts Left radius turnout and right radius turnout and a long crossing. Not sure if they help any with the panning, I am using 8" boxcars I thought they were smaller, I,ve not purchased a loco I want one with sound to add some interest to the shunting operation. I am looking for one smaller then 12" but I cant see any on the the net thus far. I am sorry to trouble you again .. Cheers Craig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 (edited) Craig - if you fancy using diamonds on a switching layout, try this For your space I'd suggest lengthening leftwards 18", and adding a road crossing with a small factory at far left For locos a small 4 axle diesel - something like an SW9/1200 or SW1500, or any of the smaller GP locos, most of which are around 7½" / 8" long - there are plenty about in that sort of range, used with 40' or 50' cars - note that a 40' car is about 6" long and a 50' car about 7¼" I know of one guy on the Big Blue forum who is building a modified version of Ness Street and having a lot of fun It will keep you very busy Edited March 4, 2012 by shortliner 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 That looks great .. I could just extend the middle section to give me a bigger runaround .. thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 (edited) Sure - go whichever way you prefer - it is your layout - but do post pictures please BTW - the Big Blue thread is here http://www.the-gauge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=2965 with the original away back here http://www.the-gauge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=2574&hilit=Fluesheet Edited March 4, 2012 by shortliner 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steinjr Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 For whatever it might be worth, I got a few US theme track plans for small layouts on this web page: http://home.online.no/~steinjr/trains/modelling/ My living room layout 11 feet x 15" looks like this: Smile, Stein 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_long Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Some interesting plans on your site Stein, I like the 41/2'x18" plans. Keep them coming. rgds Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steinjr Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) Some interesting plans on your site Stein, I like the 41/2'x18" plans. Keep them coming. Thank you. Some more small(ish) switching track plans from my photobucket account: "Dunnville Textile Mill" - SW7 switcher, 40 foot cars "Hialeah distribution" "Wyatt Earp Boulevard, version 3" "Container terminal, Bergen, Norway" If anyone see any plans or plan fragments they like, feel free to copy, fold, spindle or mutilitate to your heart's desire :-) Smile, Stein Edited March 10, 2012 by steinjr 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Nice stuff Stein - I like that you use a lot of slight angles between track and baseboards, it always makes things look more natural I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steinjr Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) use a lot of slight angles between track and baseboards, it always makes things look more natural I think. I agree, and I am an admirer of what you guys do - like your Alpha Freemo module : http://rstowerfreemo...-modules/alpha/ Smile, Stein Edited March 10, 2012 by steinjr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Hi Stein - stick a few more on here, mate! Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Your plans are excellent, Stein. 64th Street looks just what I've been looking for in my next project. And for once I have actually more space than the plan which is 7ft long, - I have 9ft! Thanks, Mal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 Which one is 64th Street? Stein, please put more plans actually on here (but it would be useful to name them)! Cheers and thanks for contributing, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steinjr Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) Which one is 64th Street? Stein, please put more plans actually on here (but it would be useful to name them)! Cheers and thanks for contributing, Pete. Sorry - have gone back and added names to the ones I posted, so it is easier to refer to them. Here is the 64th street layout plan (on bottom), with a second variant (on top) where I flipped the crossover to create another rail served industry at lower right, and create a longer runaround. Inspired based on Dave Howell's excellent 4 foot long "63rd street yard" from MTI (shown here on Adrian Wymann's small shunting layouts web page): "64th street": "Federal Overpass" "Shiner, TX": "Shamrock Avenue, Fort Worth, TX": "Arjay corner" - heavily inspired by a track plan posted by Robert J Beaty (Arjay1969) on the Model Railroader Magazine web site: "Hartland, WI" "Old Granddad Whisky Destillery, Frankfort, KY" - based on a sketch by Ed Vasser from The Gauge (http://www.the-gauge.net/) Hope I haven't spammed the forum too badly. All plans are based on Peco code 70, mostly with medium turnouts, H0 scale, mostly 40-foot cars (except for the Bergen example) and small switchers. I'll add one more - I looked at RS Tower blog and saw an image of Neil Roger's Freemo module Oakdale. Using more or less the same track plan, but changing the main industry along the back to an elevator: Umm - actually the crossover to the elevator switching lead probably ought to have been six inches further left on the track plan I drew (if one don't mind crossovers at the 4-foot section break), so you can move a cut of three cars at a time in or out. Oh well - just a quickly dashed off sketch. Smile, Stein Edited March 10, 2012 by steinjr 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
signalmaintainer Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Some very good track plans and all have a nice feeling of authenticity about them, i.e,, in my mind's eye I see something akin to what's in Seattle's industrial areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) Not my own work, but I really like this plan by Dan Bourque of http://appalachianra....com/index.html Haysi RR This would fit in my loft space, in fact I could lengthen the two long sides slightly (I can fit a 14ft long roundy round). I don't know much about Appalachian coal railroads, but Tony Koester's Coal Branch series of articles was one of my original reasons for getting into US railroading. I keep returning to this plan. Could I do it present day? What power would CSX run if the Branch still exists? Or if it was NS, what would they use? Or could I come up with a shortline, Corman style? Of course, I could go prototypical and try and get hold of the various Athearn SDs in Clinchfield livery - and if not, the black has to be one of the easiest to repaint to! I know Modelmaker 87 has an interest in coal ops - are there any others out there who do. If so, and to keep Pete happy, I'll start a new thread on Black Diamonds! (Edit: I might also be able to turn the dummy Clinchfield main into a curve into staging.) Edited March 10, 2012 by Jon Gwinnett 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 Cool!!!! I know Tony said he was going to study the old Clinchfield lines the other weekend,,,, Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 The Haysi used to be switched by an EMD F7B... yes, a cabless booster as a r/c switcher... neato! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) That's right. IIRC it was bright yellow? Edit, Black Diamonds thread now started to avoid going off topic here. Edited March 10, 2012 by Jon Gwinnett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) seen a layout that fits my given area. I added a double slip to give it a run around but I'm not sure it I have lost the desired look of the layout. Ill post both please comments are most welcome.. Layout size is 8'x 18" Cheers Craig Edited March 11, 2012 by craig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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