Pine Road. The original 4mm scale Lyme Regis based layout

[pushpull33]

I took a few more pic's today as i have done a few thing over the past week or so. Need more practice in making trees.

The Pub was named after the drinks that me and my Partner tend to drink, A pint of Piddle ( an ale that is brewed locally) and a glass of Pinot Grigio for the lady...lol

Edited August 5, 2016 by pushpull33

[Tim Hale]

Pine Road, just off Wimborne Road?

 

Tim

[pushpull33]

Yes DesA. Dont live their anymore but was born their. Corfe Mullen Halt was at the end of our garden,

[Jack00]

I have a real soft spot for this layout.

Looking great!

 

Jack.

[pushpull33]

Hi Tim.

 

Tell me about it, it only gets worse.

 

Here's some more pics of the other end of the layout. I noticed that i hadn't taken any, mind you its been a bit of a mess lately.

 

I have to do the stone walling inside the road bridge and build up the side walls above the road. I was trying to get the effect that the stone bridge had been there for donkeys years and Mr railway man came along and built a cheaper brick built bridge next to it. I'm really not sure that it works.

 

 

 

The Pub was based on The Cross Keys at Mannington (a good pub and good food).

 

 

Should i put a pic up of the real thing. (obviously, the model is work in progress.

 

[pushpull33]

Hi Jack00.

 

Thanks for the comment. i was looking at yous earlier, coming along nicely there.

[Tom Bayford]

Brilliant model i use to live just down the road from the cross keys(well colehill) nice model and the station building is nice is it scratch built?

[pushpull33]

Hi Tom.

 

The station building is actually from the Wills Craftsman range, you still have to cut out all the windows and doors and cut the walls to size. The upper floors should be a different style of brickwork but didn't like the look of it and the roof i changed from red tiles to a slate roof.

 

The pub needs detailing ie: flower troughs, seats, a fence around the back various beer barrels and the like.

 

There is still lots to do. A turntable to be built, i'm not quite sure how to approach this one yet

 

Thank You for the nice comments tho

[pushpull33]

An Update.

 

I have been thinking lately ( Partner says, this is not good) As some of you may know i started to build Pine road a long time ago just to see what i could do. I have learnt a lot of what to do and not as the case may be. Well we have got to the stage where i am tempted to ripe it up, salvage what i can, build some new base boards and start again on a new project but will still be called Pine Road (Sentimental reasons). So here goes. This is what i have been considering. (partner still says, this is not good..lol)

 

Has to be Southern, Pre Nationalisation, Ex L&SWR.

 

We need to set a date at this point. What rtr rolling stock is available. This were it gets tricky. What ran with what, when and wear. Shall i pluck a date out of the sky. I have a Schools Class (no smoke deflectors) 1930????. I dont have a great deal of rolling stock but what i do have is mostly BR Southern, M7, Terrier, 4F.

 

Portable, As may move house ??????

 

Based some where in Dorset. I would perhaps liked to have based it on some where real but there is a serious shortage of branch lines around here other than Swanage or Lyme Regis (West Bay was GWR), So going to have to be fictional. (thought, what if Broadstone or perhaps Verwood had become a Terminus due to the mass influx of people. Ok, imagination running wild ). I have been looking at pictures of Lyme Regis. Do i seem to remember a layout called Uplyme based on this ?.

 

It has to fit along a 9' wall (thats old money).Around a 90 degree corner and another 6' of length. So we are talking Terminus to fiddle yard arrangement

 

Baseboards to be built out of 6mm ply as discibed in January's Model Rail. Perhaps 12mm for the tops But only where the track lies the rest will be open frame to get a more realistic effect of land above and below rail level, all this in 9' (old money again). Another lesson learned.

 

Are you still with me......

 

Smp Scaleway track. I am sticking with this because its what i know best.

 

True to what may have been. I am meaning L&SWR water cranes (Mikes Models Any good?), Buffer stops, station signs, notices. Small details that would have been used at the time.

 

So, what has happened so far. Well, i have come up with a track plan. I have ordered track, point kits from Marcway. I have also drawn it out on a roll of wallpaper to work out what fits where (another previous lesson learnt the hard way).

 

I shall scan the track plan in for you guys to have a look at over the weekend, comments greatly received. Still thinking about Lyme Regis though, It would have to be reduced in length. I just don't feel that it would fit and look right.

 

I am off work for a week over Christmas So was hoping to get the base board built and some of the track down over this time.

 

one other thought....... DCC or not ??????? is it really worth it on a layout of this size. The expense comes into the equation as well.....

 

I am hoping that planing it out like i have it will look right. Like i have said, i have learnt a lot and feel that i can do better. I think the teachers use to say something like that at school all those years ago.

 

Well, that's where i am at so far. Any coments greatley received.......

[Donw]

All sounds pretty good. I wouldn't worry about the date too much at the moment unless you are buying more stock. The M7 is just right the others sound less so. Personally I would be thinking of a T9 but what livery? I would make it fictional Lyme was very restricted on locos. Swanage less so. Charmouth has been the inspiration for some nice models but no one owns the rights. Btw you have forgotten Seaton. There was also the East Devon branches.

In post #6 you were unsure about the railway bridge. One thing I note is the tops of the cutting were rounded. If the hill was a nice srounded shape when the railway cutting is cut the tops otften had a sharp angle the cutting is just a slice cut through. Have a look on your next train journey. It should look as though the landscape was there first and the railway cut through.

Don

[pushpull33]

Hi Don.

 

Thanks for the comments, its much appreciated, after all this is how we learn

 

Ref the bridges, this is where the "i can do better" thing comes in. We are planning this one in advance. I have learnt a lot while building Pine Road.

 

Yes, i forgot about Seaton although its in Devon. Lyme, as you say was very restricted loco wise, so will definitely go down the fictional route.

 

Colin

[pushpull33]

Just an idea that i had. I haven't been able to see if actaly fits yet as i am waiting for track plans to arrive and i cant download Templot at the moment. I dont think it is far out, may need some tweeks here and there.

 

Just wondered what your thoughts were.

 

[pushpull33]

Hi all.

 

I drew out the new track plan today, full size and it looks like its all going to fit nicely.

 

 

Possibly need some catch points on the bay platform and at the entrance to the sidings. I'm wondering about one at the start of the inner loop just off the curved point.

[pushpull33]

Well, whats new ? I started to build the new baseboards over the weekend. Luckily i am able to use my works workshop witch makes life a lot easier. Just a case of putting the top surface on, the back scene and bolting together.

 

 

I am going to use cork under the track this time just to give a nice raised trackbed look on the approach to the station. I was going to stick it down with good old PVA but have noticed on here that some people prefer to use Copydex, So a dilemma, what is best to use ?

 

I also bought 4 Conflats A's this morning with containers. Ideal for the southern region me thinks.

[Black Sheep]

the argument with pva / copydex is that pva sets solid and so may rob the cork of it's sound deadening qualities whereas copydex sets rubbery allowing a small amount of movement

[pushpull33]

Hi Black sheep.

 

Thanks for that. I will probably use PVA then as i have a big tub of it lol. I'm not to worried about the sound deadening quality's just more the look of the slightly raised track bed.

 

Colin

[bike2steam]

Looking good, don't be fooled by the 'urban myth' that cork helps reduce noise. I use pva to fix cork to the baseboard, when you put the cork in place roll over it with a decorators 'seam roller', it will stretch a little, then put house bricks on top for 24 hours while the pva 'goes off', and sets. That way it will stay perfectly flat, I also fix the track to the cork with pva, and the bricks, put strips of 1/8" thick cardboard between the rail tops, and bricks. That way all will be nicely flat.

[griffgriff]

Looking good.... I soak the Cork in the bath before gluing it down with PVA... as it dries it soaks up the glue and you get a really durable flat surface... but being glue soaked means the cork is even less effective for sound deadening!

[pushpull33]

Hi guys. Back again.

 

Cheers for the advice guy's. I had never thought about soaking it in the bath. PVA it shall be.

 

One more thing, Catch points ? 1 between the right hand point and the three way point, 1 coming out of the bay siding, 1 coming off the turntable. Now would there be any off the two loop roads just before the curved point ( bottom right of the picture). I am thinking possibly one on the inside line as the outside line would be the main running line. What would the L&SWR done in a situation like this ?

 

Colin.

[pushpull33]

Hi all.

 

I have been busy over the weekend, i put all the baseboards up and bolted them together. It all went together a treat,,,Pheww. I have started to build the first point. Hoping to get quite a bit done over Christmas, wifey might have other ideas..lol

 

 

[pushpull33]

Hi guys.

 

Some progress has been made on Pine Road number 2. The baseboards have been put up, some track laid, the control panel has been built and i have built a double slip and a curved point.

 

 

 

[Donw]

Great to see all the progress. Track plan looks good too.

Don

[pushpull33]

Hi all.

 

It's been a while since i posted anything on here, so here goes.

 

Just a few pics to show the progress of Pine Road. They were taken with my phone so perhaps not great quality.

 

The track has been laid, all wired up and working, tested thourghly.

 

I was trying to get a spacious look to the goods yard, hopefully this has worked.

 

Any comments more than welcome

 

 

 

[pushpull33]

Hi all.

 

A little update. Will post some pics over the weekend.

 

The rail sides have been painted, i used Humbrol matt brown 113. I am thinking this is a good colour. its a nice toned down brown i didn't want it to look to red/ orange.

 

I have ballasted the running rails through the station and the goods yard have been ballasted. I used finer chippings for the goods yard yet to be weathered. Nightmare ballasting a three way point trying not to stick the switch rails up. I am having a problem with seep point motors only on the three way point, there doesn't seem to be enough throw on the point to throw the point motor over far enough to change the frog polarity. I have adjusted the point motor but cant get enough throw. Think the only answer is to narrow the switch blades so there can be more movement in the motor.

 

The station building has been planted and the platforms textured and painted, some fencing has been put in place.

 

I am pleased with the effect. It's starting to look like Pine Road again.

[pushpull33]

Its been a while again, so here goes.

 

Things have progressed. With a move of house and a loss in the family things came to a halt, but the last month or so progress has been knocked up a tad.

 

Yes, here's some picks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any feedback welcome good or bad lol.

 

Its going to look very odd when i bolt the half of the layout together as I've only been concentrating on the one board. I know this is perhaps not normal practice, but thought perhaps it would be better to focus my attention on a bit at a time rather than do bits here and bits there.

 

Colin