Spannerman Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Personally I've got the lined version on pre-order and am very tempted by the malachite version as well. Having both a Beattie well tank and an 02 already I'm more than satisfied with the quality of Kernows product.I would expect from the knowledgeable people on board with this item that it will be a case of more of the same. Atb Nik Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I'm debating these, I can't imagine they were used on the Brighton - Eastbourne route ever haha, but at the same time It's nice to have variety from all the Maunsells and I already have Hornby 's ex LSWR carriages wrongly travelling through East Sussex lol, in my mind as long as I have an exLSWR loco pulling them it's only half wrong likewise I've been debating an O2 in SR black. I'm sure someone will be able to tell me when these carriages went to malachite? Same as the Maunsells or a bit later? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted March 24, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 24, 2017 I copy below the information I posted earlier in this thread here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/48268-kernow-commission-ex-lswr-gate-stock-pull-push-sets/?p=1940026 With respect to liveries of the respective sets for the period of 1939 - 1947 I advise as follows: Set 363Olive Green Livery 1933 to c1950BR Crimson Livery with yellow and black waist lining c1950Subsequent re-varnish in BR Crimson lining virtually hidden Set 373Olive Green Livery 1933 to c1947SR unlined Malachite Green c1947 Standard SR LH number positionBR(s) Green (Likely heavily varnished Malachite) with appropriate SxxxxS number at the RH end of the waist Set 374Olive Green Livery 1933 to c1945SR unlined Malachite Green c1945 Standard SR LH number position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I copy below the information I posted earlier in this thread here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/48268-kernow-commission-ex-lswr-gate-stock-pull-push-sets/?p=1940026 With respect to liveries of the respective sets for the period of 1939 - 1947 I advise as follows: Set 363 Olive Green Livery 1933 to c1950 BR Crimson Livery with yellow and black waist lining c1950 Subsequent re-varnish in BR Crimson lining virtually hidden Set 373 Olive Green Livery 1933 to c1947 SR unlined Malachite Green c1947 Standard SR LH number position BR(s) Green (Likely heavily varnished Malachite) with appropriate SxxxxS number at the RH end of the waist Set 374 Olive Green Livery 1933 to c1945 SR unlined Malachite Green c1945 Standard SR LH number position I am surprised that the olive green livery lasted so long. It seemed to be British Railways policy to retain one pull-push set in malachite green livery as a heritage set so perhaps British Railways chose 373. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Well, if I do get a set, olive green it is, thanks Graham 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Also I love all this discussion on fine details, especially as everyone seems to be happy to ignore the elephant in the room, namely the the track gauge. That's in the fight club forum. You have to be invited to that forum and the thing about the fight club forum is you don't talk about the fight club forum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Ooooo can open, worms.....everywhere. So, wrong gauge, wrong height rail, Wrong weight in proportion to stock and loco's, wrong couplers, wrong power, wrong wheels, wrong springiness in the buffers. Well I for one, am sure glad someone out there is modelling something perfectly given that list. Lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivegreen Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Don't worry too much, Dave - those of us who are rather less sensational about such things are looking forward to the arrival of this stock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Don't worry too much, Dave - those of us who are rather less sensational about such things are looking forward to the arrival of this stock. I prefer playing with trains to counting rivets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted March 24, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 24, 2017 I prefer playing with trains to counting rivets. Some it seems prefer to play with rivets........ Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted March 25, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 25, 2017 Playing with rivets and counting trains... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 (edited) The Gate Stock samples were in the cabinet at Ally Pally with the chassis turned round, they look superb. I think Kernow need to invest in a bigger cabinet though, they have so much commissioned stuff in there you can't get a good look at everything. Edited March 26, 2017 by woodenhead 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 The Gate Stock samples were in the cabinet at Ally Pally with the chassis turned round, they look superb. I think Kernow need to invest in a bigger cabinet though, they have so much commissioned stuff in there you can't get a good look at everything. We'll know they're a serious manufacturer when they have a walk in section in the middle of their stall complete with exclusive models for frequent customers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted March 26, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 26, 2017 The Gate Stock samples were in the cabinet at Ally Pally with the chassis turned round, they look superb. I think Kernow need to invest in a bigger cabinet though, they have so much commissioned stuff in there you can't get a good look at everything. 1. Excellent news. 2. They do indeed have quite a number of commissions coming through about now. It ins't always possible to predict accurately when a project might be delivered when it is instigated but going back to the initial announcements the gate stock and the other items now appearing in a near-ready or on-the-shelf condition have been spread out over several years so might in an ideal world have been delivered likewise and thus not loaded the cabinet quite so heavily! I know that cabinet well. And just how heavy it is. A larger one would take at least two people to safely shift. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ryde-on-time Posted March 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30, 2017 Had time to admire the samples at Ally Pally and was impressed I have a BR set on order and the like that they have correctly sheeted sides for most of the length of the coach. The rivet/bolt detail looks very fine in the flesh but I think has fooled some into thinking the sides on the BR ones are fully panelled Now have to decide whether I can justify a SR Lined Maunsell Green livery set................. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Ooooo can open, worms.....everywhere. So, wrong gauge, wrong height rail, Wrong weight in proportion to stock and loco's, wrong couplers, wrong power, wrong wheels, wrong springiness in the buffers. Well I for one, am sure glad someone out there is modelling something perfectly given that list. Lol Dave, you forgot wrong material - unless the plan is to use steel and wood instead of plastic? (CJL) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I'm debating these, I can't imagine they were used on the Brighton - Eastbourne route ever haha, Nearly. Set 373 was sent to Newhaven for scrapping... instead of going to the Bluebell. http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/history/earlydays5.html Photos here http://www.bluebell-railway-museum.co.uk/archive/photos/jjs/b03/3-54-4.htm http://www.bluebell-railway-museum.co.uk/archive/photos/jjs/b03/3-54-5.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 It appears the images on the Gate stock have been updated, final livery samples perhaps or maybe even production samples i don't know but my SR Maunsell lined green looks excellent apart from the bright wheels. I'm sure the last images had the foot steps in the wrong place and unpainted handles. http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/35799/K1001-DJ-Models-1914-LSWR-Push-Pull-Gate-Set-number-374 http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/35803/K1002-DJ-Models-1914-LSWR-Push-Pull-Gate-Set-number-373 http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/35805/K1003-DJ-Models-1914-LSWR-Push-Pull-Gate-Set-number-363 http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/35804/K1004-DJ-Models-1914-LSWR-Push-Pull-Gate-Set-number-373 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 It appears the images on the Gate stock have been updated, final livery samples perhaps or maybe even production samples i don't know but my SR Maunsell lined green looks excellent apart from the bright wheels. I'm sure the last images had the foot steps in the wrong place and unpainted handles. http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/35799/K1001-DJ-Models-1914-LSWR-Push-Pull-Gate-Set-number-374 http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/35803/K1002-DJ-Models-1914-LSWR-Push-Pull-Gate-Set-number-373 http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/35805/K1003-DJ-Models-1914-LSWR-Push-Pull-Gate-Set-number-363 http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/35804/K1004-DJ-Models-1914-LSWR-Push-Pull-Gate-Set-number-373 They have also added a production statement 'production in progress - expected end July 2017' against all versions. I believe this is the first time they have stated a release date. Wallet alert!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 July and August are going to be really expensive! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big James Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 I can't wait for these. I've waited long enough for Millwall to get promoted I can wait a few months more. Looks like I better squirrel some money away out of this and next months wages. Big james Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR Dave Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Can't make up my mind, olive or malachite. My M7 is olive but I reeeealy like the malachite set. Might have to invest in a second M7. First world problems eh ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddy Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 They have also added a production statement 'production in progress - expected end July 2017' against all versions. I believe this is the first time they have stated a release date. Wallet alert!! Don't panic just yet, just received this email from Greg at Kernow after checking my card details were still current, well they were first ordered in 2011! "We are awaiting the second (and hopefully final) set of samples for the Gate Stock soon. Assuming they are approved and a production slot is available, delivery should be about 4-6 months from now." Still time to save the pennies........... Must just remember to keep breathing.............. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium mclong Posted May 26, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 26, 2017 I don't know if this has been mentioned before,but there is a short film on the BFI website called 'Rover Makes Good'. Which is set near Callington. The opening has an O2 with gate stock arriving at a station ,and close up of the gated vestibule. Also a brief shot of a gate stock train with an Ivatt 2-6-2T at the end of the film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvrnut Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 I don't know if this has been mentioned before,but there is a short film on the BFI website called 'Rover Makes Good'. Which is set near Callington. The opening has an O2 with gate stock arriving at a station ,and close up of the gated vestibule. Also a brief shot of a gate stock train with an Ivatt 2-6-2T at the end of the film. Those of us living outside of the UK, unfortunately are not able to view BFI films. Penalized for living in the colonies I suppose. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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