Guest Belgian Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 They could do 'Duchess of Hamilton' as she is now (without a motor!) JE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I've got this 'orrible scenario lurking in the back of my mind which foresees us being offered two 'Stars' in 2013, probably all depends on a decision made in York being whispered about in Margate ..... In that case, I look forward to Hornby's interpretation of the Vulcan Foundry Chinese 4-8-4, and the section of the Japanese "Bullet Train". In 4mm scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 14, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2011 The question with these models is how they might be differentiated for an NRM limited edition compared with what is already released. Besides these (and Lode Star in Mike's hint above) is there a locomotive Hornby (to keep this on topic) could likely do for the NRM? We don't know the extent of the NRM's agreement with Bachmann but the pattern seems to be an original newly tooled loco from that source every other year while the Hornby tie-in has always been based on existing tooling. And the latter path leads basically to the 'Duchess' (but perhaps in streamlined form?), unless we're going to get half a 'Merchant Navy' But what if the NRM was to do commissioned or jointly developed coaching stock, or even wagons - interesting idea that but perhaps not for January? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepney55 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Over the last few years most of Hornby's new models have had a NRM guise, such as the 28xx, School's, Black Five etc. Maybe we could have a Castle next year, 4073 Caerphilly Castle complete with 3500 Gallon Tender? Or Q1 C1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smg201 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Surely some Network Rail Mk2(d?) shall be announced! They have the Class 31 on release now with no Hornby coaches to run with it! (Great that Model Rail keep on comissioning coaches for Network Rail, but they inform me Hornby is unwilling to do a limited run of Mk2 NR coaches....perhaps this is because some are to be a general release in the 2012 line up?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 But what if the NRM was to do commissioned or jointly developed coaching stock, or even wagons - interesting idea that but perhaps not for January? (L)NER dynamometer car? If the NRM wanted to do coaches, this is the logical one. Hornby does do a nice teak finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovex Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I know! They could the GWR whitewash coach, represented faithfully in its current appalling condition as maintained by the NRM http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/47327-is-this-an-inspection-saloon/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br-nse-fan Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 And I somehow think the chances of our seeing Toplights emerging via Margate is not much better than seeing ECJS coaches from that source, they're just that bit too early to suit Hornby who would probably be looking for stock that survived into BR maroon (if it's off the Western). Perhaps not the Toplights.. but maybe re-tooled Collett's... and... if we are really lucky, the 70' variety as I am pretty sure they lasted long enough to get Crimson / Cream at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovex Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Apparently the last few 70 footers disappeared in 1962 so probably did receive Maroon, Kevin Robertson's book Great Western Coaches in Colour has a shot of a brake third in C/C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonF Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 (L)NER dynamometer car? If the NRM wanted to do coaches, this is the logical one. Hornby does do a nice teak finish. I think this is a great idea given the prices the D&S kits go for on Ebay but I think this might be more for 2013 to tie in with the celebrations for Mallards record breaking run. I believe the NRM is getting all six remaining A4's together for the celebration. I could see a ltd edition trainpack of Mallard and the dynamometer car would be a good seller? Certainly get the collectors and modellers drooling at the same time! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 . 19 DAYS ! (At 22 days to go = 385 posts) (At 21 days to go = 455 posts) (At 20 days to go = 497 posts) Now 519 . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovex Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Are we running out of steam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Or just exhausting possibilities! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilwell Park Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Are we running out of steam No, we just need more kettles! Roger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyHale76 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Well I know it's a long shot but perhaps Neville in the Thomas the Tank Engine Range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 . 19 DAYS ! (At 22 days to go = 385 posts) (At 21 days to go = 455 posts) (At 20 days to go = 497 posts) Now 519 . You're really not going to do this every day, are you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Not exacly a kettle, as we know it, but how about a Turbomotive ?. The cost of the extra tooling needed for the running plate cowling, would, possibly, be recovered by that saved on the simplified valve gear! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyHale76 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Not exacly a kettle, as we know it, but how about a Turbomotive ?. The cost of the extra tooling needed for the running plate cowling, would, possibly, be recovered by that saved on the simplified valve gear! Would this be in original condition or as a rebuilt? If so would you want an update to the Princess Royal classes made by Hornby? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Would this be in original condition or as a rebuilt? If so would you want an update to the Princess Royal classes made by Hornby? AH, ..The technicalities ? Taking the Hornby point of view, l'd go for the cheapest option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyHale76 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I'm sure addition parts can be done for the Turbomotive, if we are going down this route how about 6399 Fury surely this will be different boiler for a Royal Scot model. It was satify those modellers who like running one off prototypes on their layout to go with the likes of Lion, Kestrel and DP2 etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Belgian Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Are we running out of steam No, but we are running out of diesels . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyHale76 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Perhaps Hornby would like to reintroduce their class 37 regional railways model back into their Railroad range. It wasn't a too bad a model for a budget model apart from a few comments about the shading of the grey used on lining was incorrect but this could be easily hidden by weathering. I believe it had an updated Lima Chassis which was DCC ready and retailed in some shops for about £40. This would go nicely with the regional railways liveried class 31 I believe is forthcomimg in the railroad range. Maybe we might see some of the old Mk1 coaches enter the railroad range this year in Regional railways livery along with the ex Dapol class 155 in the same scheme. Thus creating a nice niche for late 1980s modelling for some. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I'd like to see the 37 make a re-entry into the railroad range too. I've got an early 90's railfreight model and it still looks pretty decent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonF Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Just had a thought, with the arguments about duplicated models between Bachmann and Hornby how do you think this idea would pan out? What would happen if Hornby were to release a long firebox version of an LMS Jubilee, I guess they could use parts from their Rebuilt Scot/Patriot to reduce developemnt costs. This would be a different variation to Bachmanns latest superb (short firebox) model. Similarly they could develop their railroad 9f to produce a Crosti boilered 9F. These loco's would be different from Bachmanns offerings, and would sort of be complimenting each others ranges without possibly reducing each others sales? Just a ponderance.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 60027Merlin Posted December 15, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 15, 2011 Just had a thought, with the arguments about duplicated models between Bachmann and Hornby how do you think this idea would pan out? What would happen if Hornby were to release a long firebox version of an LMS Jubilee, I guess they could use parts from their Rebuilt Scot/Patriot to reduce developemnt costs. This would be a different variation to Bachmanns latest superb (short firebox) model. Similarly they could develop their railroad 9f to produce a Crosti boilered 9F. These loco's would be different from Bachmanns offerings, and would sort of be complimenting each others ranges without possibly reducing each others sales? Just a ponderance.... When Bachmann announced that they were going to produce the Jubilee they stated that both the short and long firebox variants would be catered for. Coming up for two years ago I enquired with Dennis Lovett at the Bachmann stand at the AMRSS Exhibition in Glasgow about the non appearance of the long firebox version preferably coupled with a Fowler tender as there were many in that guise in Scotland. He replied that the Jubilee had not been a good seller and that this version was not in their plans at that time, fair enough as it is all down to a commercial return. I do not know what the current Bachmann view is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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