RMweb Gold Savoyard Posted December 29, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) I decided to start work again on my Class 504, I had previously posted details of my Replica Railways/DC Kits Class 504 conversion on Mucky Ducks Workbench thread but I thought I would start a new thread showing the progress. As I have previously mentioned the last time I did something like this I was in my late teens, so over 30 years ago, when I converted a Dinky Northern Counties Fleetline to single door and modified it to represent the later GMT Standard with wrap round windscreen. So I have been relearning some long forgotten skills! This conversion uses the Replica Railways Suburban Coach with the DC Kits Cabs grafted on the front. I had thought of scrapping this conversion as I have made a few mistakes and start again, but I thought as I will have at least two 504 units on Holcombe Brook and Tottington I decided I won't waste the first conversion so I completely stripped off all the paint, re-joined the DC cabs to the body, and spent a lot of time refilling the joins. Though not perfect and the pictures show more things that need attention, hopefully with a little more work I think I will have a very passable model and hopefully the second unit will be easier learning from my experience of making this unit. Here is a selection of pictures of the work so far. I will post more as work progresses. Peter Edited December 29, 2011 by Savoyard 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Savoyard Posted December 29, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 29, 2011 Whoops! Something has gone wrong as I posted this to the 'Kitbuilding and Scratchbuilding' section but it has ended up in this section! Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Looking good - how about making your earlier 504 into a withdrawn example as some these units spent nealy 20 years stored out of use and some even retained green livery. XF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Savoyard Posted December 30, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 30, 2011 (edited) Today I decided to give the Class 504 an undercoat so as to highlight any noticeable flaws. I then decided to try and fit a DC Kits cab front to a Bachmann 2EPB and to my surprise it was a nice easy conversion, the DC Kits roof can replace the Bachmann roof and it ends up being a fairly quick conversion. I have only done the trailer at the moment but I will convert the motor car tomorrow. I have taken some pictures but I can't upload them at the moment. I have decided I will not motorise the original 504 DC Kits/Replica Railways conversion and I will use it as a dummy unit to make the occasional 4 car set and the chassis will be used with it's original body which will also be converted to a 504. I will post pictures as soon as I am able. Regards, Peter Edited December 30, 2011 by Savoyard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Harvey Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Looking good Peter. Happy New Year to you. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Hi You could do the ELR way of using it as a dummy, stick a 25 in the formation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Savoyard Posted December 31, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2011 I came across this photo whilst doing a search on Google. It says it is in Early BR Blue livery. Does anyone know if it was a lighter version like electric blue? Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Harvey Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I think that it is just very faded BR blue a lot of the very early paints did not last long before they faded and if they had used a lot of detergent when they washed it down that would in effect bleach the paint very quickly. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Savoyard Posted January 2, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) Here are a few shots of the DC Kits/Replica Railways Class 504 in undercoat. And the initial work on converting a Bachmann 2EPB using the DC Kits cab front and roof (only placed on) Edited January 2, 2012 by Savoyard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Savoyard Posted January 2, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 2, 2012 And some of the Bachmann 2EPB conversion with the correct boggies. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 looking good pete will they be ready for november???? ray from deepest west cumbria Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Savoyard Posted January 2, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) Thanks Ray and hopefuly it will! I'm hoping to have most of it done this week and I will be starting on the 3rd convesion. I intend to have the two motorised versions in BR Green one with small yellow panel, and if it turns out there was an earlier version of BR Blue the dummy version will be painted in that. Peterl Edited January 2, 2012 by Savoyard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Harvey Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) Looks a much better way of doing the conversion. Nice. Pete Edited January 2, 2012 by Pete Harvey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Looking really good - You are always welcome to store your 504 in Croxley Wiggenhall Road Depot ! XF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Savoyard Posted January 2, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 2, 2012 And a lot easier! This is how I did the conversion. Using DC Kits cab sides I marked the cutting lines for the cab front. The marked side Original cab front removed The the sides cut The DC Kits cab front had to be modified Then fitted to the Bachmann shell The DC Kits roof was cut to size and then filed to create a grove so as to fit the same as the Bachmann roof Overall a fairly easy and quick conversion compared with the original DCK/RR version. Peter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Savoyard Posted January 3, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2012 (edited) Quite a lot of progress on the DC/2EPB conversion as can seen below. (The Roof is only temporarily fitted) Edited January 3, 2012 by Savoyard 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Savoyard Posted January 5, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2012 Tonight we started to move into our new larger clubrooms and this will mean I will be able to put up the Holcombe Brook and Tottington layout, I took the opportunity to take some pictures of the 2EPB Class 504 conversion on the viaduct section. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Savoyard Posted January 15, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) Another visit to the clubrooms so a chance to take a few pictures of the work so far. The cream lines were done using Peter Spoerer Easi-Liner pen recommended by Pete Harvey (thanks Pete!), I used it on the sides but the cabs were a little awkward so I masked these and spray painted the lines, there is still some tidying up to do. The roof are only placed on using some double sided sticky pads so look a little odd. I am thinking of redoing the roof using the 2EPB roof with the DC Kits front, I will probably make use of the bits from the original Replica Railways conversion as I am not happy with the joins when painted when put against the 2EPB version. Waiting at Tottington On the viaduct on it's way to Holcombe Brook Waiting for a return trip at Holcombe Brook Regards, Peter Edited January 15, 2012 by Savoyard 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Harvey Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 It looks very good Peter. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucky Duck Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Peter, only now able to catch up with this. Thanks for the plug - my project has been laid to rest for the time being - but both of your 504s are coming along nicely, they look great on the layout! Seems the Bachmann 2EPB is definitely the way to go. A question though, what do you think about the feasibility of attaching the DC cab front plus sides (retaining the DC cab side window) just up to the leading edge of the first door and removing the corresponding Bacchie sides from the door forward? Without getting a very close butchers at the Bachmann in the flesh it's difficult to tell but from the photos I'm guessing that it would possibly be even more difficult cutting and matching-up, as the Bachmann body looks quite a chunky gauge whilst the DC's is anything but. Looking forward to more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Savoyard Posted January 20, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2012 Hi Ryan, Apoligies for not replying to your PM yet it has been a hectic week or so and I've just returned from setting up Rederring at a small exhibition tomorrow at Martin Mere Wildfowl Reserve. I have decided to scrap the original Replica conversion as I wasn't happy with the joins as a result of excessive filing to make it smooth, I am going to reuse the roof ends on the 2EPB roof on the next conversion. With regards to the cab windows, I am not sure that the DC Kits sides are totally accurate having studied lots of pictures, the DCKits look bigger than the actual 504 and the 2EPB side windows don't look too far out. If I decide they need converting I would modify the 2EPB by either filing or filling as I would risk weakening the strength of the body using the DCKits bits, also it would mean more filling and filing to hide the join! Been there done that got the t-shirt! LOL! Regards, Peter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Savoyard Posted February 18, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) I have been having a play around with the interiors and I was thinking how could I replicate the moquette for the seat covering so I played around in Corel Draw and this is what i came up with this:- I would print it on paper and then apply to the seats. Peter Edited February 18, 2012 by Peter Crichton (Savoyard) 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Savoyard Posted May 27, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2012 (edited) I have just uploaded a very short video of my Class 504 to YouTube after adding a LED to the front bogie to represent the 3rd rail arcing. I have deleted this video on YouTube and added a new one see new post below, The Class 504 is nearly complete, there are a few detailing items to finish off and I will replace the Bachmann glazing with Shawplan's Laserglaze when it is available. I have fitted sound using Digitrains EMU project with addtional Class 504 sounds, directional lighting, destination lighting and 3rd rail arcing. I will post some pictures over the next few days. Peter. Edited June 2, 2012 by Peter Crichton (Savoyard) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Savoyard Posted May 28, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2012 A couple of shots on Holcombe Brook & Tottington at MRX 2012. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucky Duck Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 8) Looking great Peter. Love the LED'd 3rd rail arcing and I may well 'alf-inch that idea! The Shawplan Laserglaze sounds very interesting too. Look forward to seeing more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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