Michael Delamar Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 ive never seen this before... sorry if there is a thread already http://www.flickr.co.../in/photostream Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Trevellan Posted January 21, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21, 2012 Interesting. Presumably this was an experiment given the date, as I don't recall seeing that particular combinaton of livery and numbers before on a 73. Thanks for the link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raffles Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Very interesting... I wonder how this ties (time wise) in with the similar treatment given to DMUs? Edit: Here it is again: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/5375766369/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 This was the same time as a number of DMU and EMU's had this livery applied - Classes 105, 501, 504 spring to mind. XF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnb Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 A few 115 DMUs working out of Marylebone also had the yellow around the cab doors at that period Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted January 21, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21, 2012 In 'Power of the Electro Diesels' it states that E6018 was painted in 1967 as an experiment to test and evaluate it's visibility to "track staff and oncoming train crews". This is is backed up in 'The Electro Diesels - An illustrated History of classes 73 and 74' which also adds that it was part of wider BRB research into visibility (see posts 3, 4 and 5). The loco was returned to a more conventional livery in 1969. Cheers Griff Edit Of course both books are from the Colin Marsden stable ... so he would back up his own research wouldn't he Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted January 21, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21, 2012 A green first series 4-CIG also received this treatment on one end at least, all part of the same experiment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 heres a dmu with the wrap round yellow, one of the 502's had it aswel I think. http://www.flickr.com/photos/happyraildays/6673885023/in/photostream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 class 502 with this livery, pause at 49mins 54 seconds.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDPzcXbX44M&context=C3e31f99ADOEgsToPDskJNxwSHGNhmqwnPvRvWGqJs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 ive often wondered why they didnt paint yellow around the windows of engines with noses, class 37 40 etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted January 22, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2012 ive often wondered why they didnt paint yellow around the windows of engines with noses, class 37 40 etc. Can you imagine how filthy they would look after a short time running, I know that they have the same frontal area as any other flat nosed locomotive but the fact remains they were notoriously difficult to keep clean (around the windows - they frequently got missed between washing machines and yard brushes and if a WR machine it all got missed ). Furthermore IIRC one of the reasons they choose Rail Blue was that it hides the dirt well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natalie Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 A useful find Michael. I have been well aware of this loco (from 'Power of the Electro Diesels') originally and a few photos have appeared. Very few of them appear to be in colour and have always left me wondering whether when the loco was repainted from its original rail blue with small yellow ends and white window frames, how was the roof dealt with. This photo shows once and for all that the existing rail grey roof was retained. Also the numbers had to be repositioned behind the cabs. Regarding the wrap round yellow cabs, this was flirted with on a few units at the time by the Southern. According to my records (supplied by John Atkinson) the following SR units were so equipped: Oxted unit 1319 received blue with full yellow ends wrapped round to include cabside windows on 27-2-67. White unit numbers were provided on the yellow end. 4-CIG 7303 had green with full yellow ends wrapped back as far as the cab vestibule door on 8-3-67. A very minor degree of wrapping round where the full yellow end was carried round onto the bodyside as far as the leading cabside door (rather than just painting the front) was also applied to 4-LAV 2950 (green), 2-BIL 2009/11/21/26/38/50/53/56/60/74/83/89/93/96/116/121/130/141/146/147/150 (all in green) and 4-COR 3109/12/25/27/40 (all in blue). Dates of repainting of these units can be supplied if required Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Oddly, I think I've got a spare 73 bodyshell in the colour scheme of the OP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted January 22, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2012 a cl.124 newly painted in 1967: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/4280867639/in/set-72157603648796702/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natalie Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 a cl.124 newly painted in 1967: http://www.flickr.co...57603648796702/ Also carrying the then standard brown solebars and running gear. Another shot in Robert's collection of a class 124 in blue/grey with wrap round full yellow end: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 i dont think the 73 looks too odd, I think because of being used to seeing them in the large logo livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D605Eagle Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 class 502 with this livery, pause at 49mins 54 seconds.. It appears to be one end only too, but its quite hard to tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 In this photo taken by Brian Daniels at Didcot you can see a scap Class 501 DMBS ir DTBS with a wrap around full yellow end. XF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted January 22, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2012 as mike says, the 73 in the OP doesn't actually seem too odd now, given we've been used to LL locos. but at the time, it was no doubt, what's going to happen next??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Also carrying the then standard brown solebars and running gear. And with the running numbers at the 'wrong' end to whit. You will also note Mr Carroll's use of the 'MC' terminology Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 And with the running numbers at the 'wrong' end to whit. You will also note Mr Carroll's use of the 'MC' terminology That must have been the first Pennine in Blue/Grey as there is a freshly painted MBSL lurking in the background. Al Taylor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRAILRAGE Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I recently picked up a Hornby pressed steel class 121 body in blue with wrap around ends. Did any of actually receive this colour scheme or was it only the Gloucester class 122 that received it. I was gonna repaint it but the windows are so well glued in that I'll probably snap the body trying to get it out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I recently picked up a Hornby pressed steel class 121 body in blue with wrap around ends. Did any of actually receive this colour scheme or was it only the Gloucester class 122 that received it. I was gonna repaint it but the windows are so well glued in that I'll probably snap the body trying to get it out! No, I don't think so. Hornby were challenged on the livery and pointed in support to a photo of a Gloucester one that they had used as evidence! Basically, they got it wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Here is a better image of E6018: E6018_Eastleigh_Bournemout-Wloo_1-7-67 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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