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Well over a year since the last post on our layout thread so an update on the latest items of rolling stock to come off the work bench and a couple of ongoing ones. Pleased to say there has been plenty of progress on the layout and an update and pictures will follow but I'll leave that for the brains of the operation!

 

Rob

 

Slaters 12t van

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Slaters Vanwides

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Westdale mk1 GUV

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Currently in progress are a Westdale LMS BG

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Well over a year since the last post on our layout thread so an update on the latest items of rolling stock to come off the work bench and a couple of ongoing ones. Pleased to say there has been plenty of progress on the layout and an update and pictures will follow but I'll leave that for the brains of the operation!

 

Rob

 

Slaters 12t van

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Slaters Vanwides

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Westdale mk1 GUV

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Currently in progress are a Westdale LMS BG

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Nice GUV guv'!

I'm building a JLTRT one at the mo' but I've built a Westdale one before. I'm inclined to the think the Westdale's got the edge on the JLTRT one.... :whistle:

I'm having to scratchbuild too much of the undergubbins on the JLTRT one as there's quite a few bits not provided or not quite right for the job.

 

Jon F.

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Very nice Rob.

There'll be a 25 to help haul that lot in due course..... ;)

Sean.

Thanks Sean, looking forward to seeing the face lifted Rat.

 

Rob

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Nice GUV guv'!

I'm building a JLTRT one at the mo' but I've built a Westdale one before. I'm inclined to the think the Westdale's got the edge on the JLTRT one.... :whistle:

I'm having to scratchbuild too much of the undergubbins on the JLTRT one as there's quite a few bits not provided or not quite right for the job.

 

Jon F.

Hi Jon

Thanks for your comments, I'm following your JLTRT GUV build, I did consider getting one of those but picked this Westdale one up cheap. To help me with this I used Heljan underframe trusses from their spares but everything else is as supplied and must admit its a nice kit to build and certainly looks the part.

 

Rob

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Hi Jon

. To help me with this I used Heljan underframe trusses from their spares

 

Rob

Good idea! How much are they?

Cheers

Jon F.

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Hi Guys,

 

I cannot believe in this day and age the amount of kit manufacturers who still do not incorporate some form of brake shoes and associated linkages, they are on show with most style of bogies, so why the omission?

 

Martyn.

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Good idea! How much are they?

Cheers

Jon F.

Hi Jon

Can't remember exactly how much they were but i think there only £5 -6 , if you look at the Heljan section on Howes website you'll find the various O gauge spares on there.

 

Rob

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Hi Guys,

I cannot believe in this day and age the amount of kit manufacturers who still do not incorporate some form of brake shoes and associated linkages, they are on show with most style of bogies, so why the omission?

Martyn.

Hi Martyn

Both the coaches have brake shoes fitted, its my crappy photos that don't show them well, I do agree with you though, the LMS BG has Easybuild bogies and despite coming with brake shoes there's no (even basic) linkages with them or means of attaching them to the main bogie frame.

 

Rob

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Some very nice wagons and parcels stock there - lovin' this thread :good:

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Thanks Phill, needs lowering on its bogies as it sits a bit high compared to the Easybuild mk1s we have but otherwise its done.

 

Rob

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Very good weathering if I may say so

 

Paul R

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Thanks Paul, its Railmatch acrylic frame dirt and roof dirt airbrushed on and Humbrol weathering powders to highlight a few bits, nothing to technical!.

 

Rob

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Pleased to say there has been plenty of progress on the layout and an update and pictures will follow but I'll leave that for the brains of the operation!

 

Rob

 

 

Not sure about being the brains of the operation but agree that an update on progress on the layout is well overdue.

 

Since my last update (#18) the fiddle yard has now been constructed. This is basically a 9 road sliding traverser with fixed stub tracks at each end capable of holding a loco. This permits running around/changing of locos on trains without having to handle any of the stock. To accommodate 3 coach trains the traverser table is 2 metres long and including the stub tracks the complete fiddle yard is over 3 metres long (O Gauge certainly eats up space!)

To make it manageable for transporting to exhibitions the fiddle yard boards are split into two sections and whilst the traverser table itself is one piece it can easily be detached from the runners so that it can be transported separately. Some pictures below taken during construction. Note the runners are heavy duty ball bearing runners purchased from B&Q (though other sources are available) and as can be seen in the second photo, despite the considerable weight of the traverser table when loaded with stock there is no sag when fully slid across. The addition of a second Lenz LA150 panel (and associated wiring) allows the fiddle yard operators to take control of the trains when within their limits.

 

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So having now got a fully operational layout we had a further test day at the Town Hall as previously followed by our first exhibition! The Hull Model Railway Club’s Summer Show on June the 4th. Many thanks to Ken Gibbons & co. for the invitation, it enabled us to have a serious look at how we were going to operate the layout.

 

 

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More to follow (soon hopefully!)

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Right time to start on the scenic bits!

 

Lord Flasheart took on the dubious honour of painting the rail sides and chairs and ballasting the track. Painting was done using Railmatch Sleeper Grime, don’t like the rust paint usually used – too David Dickinson (orange)!

After trialling several products we finally chose to ballast the main running lines using Woodland Scenics Medium Granite (Grey), product ref B1382. This was laid in the “usual” manner, i.e. laid dry, carefully prodded into place, sprayed with water and then glue applied via an eye dropper. As an experiment we tried using Scenic Cement from Woodland Scenics instead of diluted PVA. Whilst it was certainly very fluid and soaked into the ballast very well, unfortunately we found it didn’t have sufficient adhesion to properly hold the ballast in place. However mixing some neat PVA into the Scenic Cement overcame this problem without losing the fluidity. For the sidings we used some foundry sand which we purchased from some guys who were operating a layout at the Festival of British Railway Modelling at Doncaster last February and it has worked very well. Sorry can’t remember the name of the layout! Numerous Wednesday evenings were spent doing the ballasting but a fine job has resulted.

 

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In some of the previously posted photos you may have seen the rudiments of the station building, so some details on its construction.

As mentioned previously the layout is based on Wick/Thurso, as is the station building, though those familiar with the prototype will easily recognize that it isn’t an exact copy of either.

The walls consist of a 5mm foamboard core. This is covered on the outside with Slaters embossed plasticard to represent the stonework. Painting of this was done by initially spraying it matt black, then when dry, various shades of Humbrol enamels were stippled on and roughly blended together with excess being removed to reveal the black background. Again once dry, very dilute Humbrol pale stone was applied to the mortar courses and finally a dusting of talcum powder was applied to tone everything down and blend it together. So more of a Jackson Pollock than a Turner or a Constable (I certainly don’t have the skill or patience to paint each stone individually)! However I’m quite pleased with the results and like the randomness of it.

 

 

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The inside walls are clad with plain plasticard (to prevent warping of the foamboard). This was covered with PVA and fine sand sprinkled on through a fine sieve, once dry it was then painted with Humbrol enamel and gives a good representation of the rough rendered walls apparent in photographs of the prototype.

 

 

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Each side wall and the end wall were constructed and painted separately making handling of them much easier, because although as per the prototype the station building is only capable of holding 2 coaches, the model is still over 3 feet long!

 

 

Next step was fabrication of the roof trusses, 80 thou thick Evergreen strip of various widths being used for this. A drawing was used to provide a template for cutting the various component parts and based on dimensions taken from this a cutting/mitre gauge was made up from some off cuts of wood so that identical (well nearly) components could easily be cut from the Evergreen strip. Hopefully the photos below give some idea of this.

 

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The various components were then glued together to produce individual trusses

 

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The trusses were then assembled in groups of four using the ridge beam, purlins and wall plate components, three of these sub assemblies being required.

 

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Now you may be forgiven for thinking this is a slightly strange way to go about the construction but the main reason was because we decided that for ease of transportation and safety the main buildings on the layout would be made removable.

 

So having got the three walls and the roof truss sub assemblies ready it was time to join it all together.

To facilitate this, an assembly jig was constructed (from more timber off cuts) which would locate the walls in the correct positions as well as hold them vertically.

 

See photo below showing the jig, ultimately this will form the base of the transportation box for the station building.

 

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The following sequence of photos then show the assembly of the building.

 

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The building was then removed from the jig (it was surprisingly strong and rigid in this state) and placed back on the layout where I was relieved to find it fitted perfectly! (Note the platform is permanently attached to the layout).

 

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The doors and window frames visible in the last picture are from the Highland Castings range available from Invertrain (saved a lot of faffing about with microstrip).

 

More to follow.

 

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Very nice indeed, MIke. I have been to Thurso and I did recognise the building, so you have captured the feel of it alright.

 

John

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Very nice indeed, MIke. I have been to Thurso and I did recognise the building, so you have captured the feel of it alright.

 

John

Thanks John

 

I'd love to go and see Wick & Thurso stations in the flesh myself but the 400 odd mile trip from East Yorkshire keeps putting me off. However compared to yourself in Cornwall I'm nearly half way there so maybe it's time to break out the Octavia! (Can't afford a Quattro!).

Superb - lovin' this thread :good:

Cheers Pete.

 

Hope to post a bit more soon.

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Station building looks superb Mike & the layout oozes potential  :sungum:

Cheers Phil

 

Good to meet up with you this afternoon.

 

Your layout has got the grey matter working overtime!

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