RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted October 13, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 13, 2014 Hello, So, with the class 307 all but done, it is time to start a new multiple unit project to tide me over the winter. Whilst browsing the web I came across another modeller's website where a Hornby class 110 had been butchered to create a class 114 Derby Heavyweight DMU - basically a stretched class 108. Thanks for dropping in, Chris. Hi Chris I would say it is a stretched 107, the 108 has a continuous curve profile where the 114 and 107 (and the suburban units) have a profile close to that of an LMS coach. I too have seen Jim's website and have a 110 ready to become a 114. I have a 107 in the making, the cabs are scratchbuilt. My 114 will have scractch built cabs as well. I have a conversion I done years ago from the 110 into a Derby type unit which I passed off as a 108. Don't think I have any photos to hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the penguin of doom Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I'm going to enjoy this one Chris. Have you considered the Replica Railways powered chassis. I have one under my 128 and am very happy with it. A good start on the model from the pictures shown. Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Close Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 Hello All, A bit of progress on the class 114 DPU today. Firstly the driving trailer has been put together. I have reinforced the coach at roof level in preparation for opening out the roller shutter doors, and for this car I will do the filling and sanding after I have inserted the new doors. Below the motor coach has been fitted with its roller door on one side and is resting whilst the plastic hardens before I tackle the other side. I have spent quite some time sanding and filling, with some small areas still to do. Also, on the this coach a couple of vents still need to be installed in the body side. As I mentioned before the cars scale out at about 4mm too short - so I have decided to go with the Lima underframes and I'll cut out 4mm from these to make a bad job OK. Hopefully no-one besides you will know! Apologies, but the photos are all taken on the 'phone as I can't be bothered with the camera today.... Thanks for looking in, Best wishes, Chris. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Just found this thread of yours and got to say you've got skill It's been interesting looking through at how you cut and shut stuff (sorry for the crude term)as well as all the filling and fileing that goes with it and the excellent models you end up with which are very nice Great modelling Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Close Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Hello Brian, Thanks for your comments, they are much appreciated. At the end of the day though cut-n-shut is what it is. For the most part I cannot claim any originality for the ideas either! I have managed to complete the DMS coach body today, and I've also fitted roller doors to one side of the DTC. I'm quite pleased with it so far - photos to follow. Thanks for looking in, and best wishes, Chris. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Close Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 OK, so - here is an update with photos. First up the completed DMBS. To get an idea of what it will look like when done I have plonked it on a Hornby chassis for the photo. Then to the DTC. One of the dillemas I have been facing is how wide to make the roller shutter doors. In the end I have gone for (guessed) 20mm for two reasons... The first is that I don't have a real class 114 to measure (obviously) and the second is that I have assumed that the conversions would have been made using the natural appertures and strong points on the body. Therefore taking the front passenger door and measuring from the leading frame to the rear most frame of the small passenger window you get 20mm. Simples. Well, if only... But after studying many, many photos it looks about right. The Fox transfers I am using have chevron stripes included, however these are 17mm in width - perhaps intended for the class 128 DPU? So it looks like I'm going to have to make my own chevrons for the new doors. The rear roller door requires part of one of the windows blanking off. So I have carefully removed the beading and using masking tape as a guide to the saw cuts I opened out the new door frame. Progress so far is not too bad all in all. Here is a photo of the two cars together still on their short undeframes - more to keep me motivated than anything else. Still to do is the opposite side of the DTC and then start the filling and sanding process. I will also make a start on the underframes. Thanks for looking, best wishes, Chris. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d winpenny Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Coming along well keep it up David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Lovely work Chris, the 114 is coming together nicely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Close Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Hello everyone, I have made some more progress with the class 114 DPU. I have completed the basic bodyshells, added the roller doors to both cars and bodyside vents to the DMBS. That left the slow and not very RM WEB-genic body prep to do. The filling and sanding is almost over now, and I am in a position to show the two bodyshells in undercoat. There is still some small work to do with fine wet and dry, but it looks like there is no more filler required at least. I also will add the roof ventilators and the toilet filler pipes prior to painting the first coat of Royal Mail red. All in all - I'm quite chuffed with this one so far. Not a multiple unit project, but something I'm busy with at the same time is this Mk IId BFK. With the imminent new Mk II e/f coaches I decided to create a 1989/90 cross country rake from my 'old' mark two stuff. This will be a Mk IId BFK; Mk I RMB; Mk IIf; Mk IId; Mk IIc and Mk IIf to copy a rake I spotted on the Leeds branch of the ECML in 1989. The Mk IId BFK construction has been covered many times before, but basically it is a splice of a Dapol FO and a BSO. It will be finished in Intercity Executive livery. And what of the Mk IIc mentioned above? Well I have been messing about with a Dapol Mk IId and a Lima Mk IIb and this is what I've come up with so far. It will be finished in blue & grey as per the rake above. I think it has promise.... What do you reckon? Thanks for looking in and best wishes, Chris. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davep101 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Hiya chris, Still loving your thread, after a few months away from british OO modelling ive now took back up with it, cracking on with the refurb of my class 205, and taking the plunge at my own 210, inspired by your own build! Keep it up mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Close Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 Hello Dave, Its nice to be an inspiration, thanks. I wish I could claim originality - there are a good few modellers who have inspired me over the years, and I only try to emulate them. I thought you might like to see my 'Ladies in Red' fresh from the paint shop. Just a quick snap taken in the kitchen for now. All being well I'll have them lettered up with their Royal Mail insignia over the weekend, and then I'll make a proper start on the undeframes. Thanks for looking in, Chris. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Like the 114, one question? Is the cant rail line /guttering wavy at the cab ends or is it just the camera? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Close Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 Hello Cheesy, Close up photos are cruel aren't they? The cant rail is indeed a little wonky, but not half as bad as it looks on the photo. Best wishes, Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Close Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 My 'Ladies in Red' scrub up well I think. Underframes next on the list to do with this one, and then re-assembly. Best wishes, Chris 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d winpenny Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Looking great chris David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Close Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 Finished! Best wishes, Chris. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Close Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 Hello everyone, With the unit finished, I have been busy today in getting the performance to where it should be. Considering the running gear, I have retained the Lima motor and bogies, however I discarded the 'rail roller' wheels and have replaced them with Romford 12mm disc wheels. This has been achieved on the powered car by direct replacement on the leading pick up bogie, and by cutting the gear from the back of the Lima wheels and glueing it on to the back of the Romford ones, before re-assembling the motor. This has allowed all wheel pick-ups to be fitted. A Lokpilot has been fitted for DCC running. The trailer car bogies required the plastic bearing for the pin point axles to be deepened as the Romford axles are slightly longer than the Lima ones. Initially the wheels were binding, but with care, trial and error I was able to get the vehicle free running. http://youtu.be/6Zlzd67i9T0 Here is a short clip showing the results. It runs very smoothly, and has power enough to pull a tail load as was common for these type of workings. Thanks for looking in, Chris. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodshaw Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 That's some neat work there, maestro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Close Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 Hello Rod, That's some neat work there, maestro. I think that is going a bit far! . All I'm doing is copying the work of others in the mostly fun exercise of destroying perfectly good models and sticking them back together in a different order. I'm glad you like it though.... Best wishes, Chris. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Very nice work Chris. Now back to work on the pairs of 20s and Grids please! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAndy Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Lovely work Chris. I'm very interested in the Mk2C project that you've got on the go. Any further updates on it? cheers Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Close Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 Hello Andy, The IIc is coming along. At the moment it is in the rubbing down phase (not very interesting), but I hope to have it in undercoat in the next few days. The remaining MkII's have all been in the paint shop for a quick blast of executive light grey. I have at least three different types, so I wanted consistency across the board for this colour. Photos to come later....... Best wishes, Chris. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Close Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) Hello Alex, Very nice work Chris. Now back to work on the pairs of 20s and Grids please! It can't always be heavy freight.... You have to have somewhere for the people to sit I'll be back to loco's soon..... I have a very interesting - and challenging unit to do after the Mk II's. Best wishes, Chris. Edited March 7, 2015 by Gallows Close Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Hello Alex, It can't always be heavy freight.... You have to have somewhere for the people to sit I'll be back to loco's soon..... I have a very interesting - and challenging unit to do after the Mk II's. Best wishes, Chris. Challenging unit ,I'm intrigued Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Close Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 OK, So some photos. First up the IId BFK and the other aircons... Front to back cut 'n' shut IId BFK, Lima IIf TSO, Lima IIf TSO, Dapol IId TSO and Dapol IId TSO. Still to do on the back four lining and lettering, and on the BFK the remaining paint and then of course the lining. I did the yellow stripe first on this one as I had the paint out for the class 114. It received its coat of exec light grey today and still to do are the exec dark grey and the roofs and ends. Not very different to last time, but I've filled and filed to get the Lima sides to match the profile of the Dapol ends on the Mk IIc. Hope to have this one in undercoat soon. Thanks for looking in, Chris. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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