ejgray52 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Just browsing through e-bay and found a Peco single slip, £58.55; Hattons do it for £32 +£2 postage... But then the e-bay lot has free postage - maybe people see that before they look at the price? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 How long ago was it purchased? £10.99 at time of purchase may well be worth £15 or even more now. Almost certainly way more... illustrates how buying for £10 15/20 years ago and keeping an item doesn’t actually make you money... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted March 4, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) How long ago was it purchased? £10.99 at time of purchase may well be worth £15 or even more now. Almost certainly way more... illustrates how buying for £10 15/20 years ago and keeping an item doesn’t actually make you money...£15..£1.80 ebay fees £0.52 PayPal fees £2.79 hermes delivery £9.89 balance recieved. Seller loses 11p, unless the buyer buys multiple to combine postage. How much compound interest would the seller have paid to the bank in 8 years since the coach was made ?.. say 3.75%... that’s £3.63 ... Sellers now got.. £6.26 Suppose they pay VAT on the sale... £3 @20% Sellers is now down to £3.26 Assuming a 40% markup on cost price, they paid £6 for that coach.. So overall loss of £2.74 With inflation since 2010, £6 is worth £7.38 today, so the £1.38 difference is added to that loss compounding it to £4.12 Then costs of running a business, salary etc.. If he was in it for the money he should be asking at least £25 for that coach... but then who would buy it ? £3.00 ebay fees £0.87 PayPal fees £2.79 hermes delivery £5.00 vat £3.63 compound interest £6.00 original cost price ——— £21.29 costs / £3.61 profit (buyer is located in Barbican so it’ll buy half a pint of beer for the cost of looking after a coach for 8 years)... let’s hope he sells more than one eh ? Oh and finally... £6 in 2010 with inflation is £7.38... so that £3.61 profit only has actual spending power of £2.23.. so actually he needs to consider selling it for £35... :-) Edited March 4, 2018 by adb968008 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted March 4, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2018 So, is this weathered or not? You decide.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-9F-Super-Detailed-as-Tyne-Dock-9F-92097-Weathered/332575070467?hash=item4d6f04d903:g:akgAAOSw7WdanA~Q It certainly looks like it’s been dunked in something dark and gooey - perhaps the Tyne Docks... Cheers Darius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted March 4, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) £15.. £1.80 ebay fees £0.52 PayPal fees £2.79 hermes delivery £9.89 balance recieved. Seller loses 11p, unless the buyer buys multiple to combine postage. How much compound interest would the seller have paid to the bank in 8 years since the coach was made ?.. say 3.75%... that’s £3.63 ... Sellers now got.. £6.26 Suppose they pay VAT on the sale... £3 @20% Sellers is now down to £3.26 Assuming a 40% markup on cost price, they paid £6 for that coach.. So overall loss of £2.74 With inflation since 2010, £6 is worth £7.38 today, so the £1.38 difference is added to that loss compounding it to £4.12 Then costs of running a business, salary etc.. If he was in it for the money he should be asking at least £25 for that coach... but then who would buy it ? £3.00 ebay fees £0.87 PayPal fees £2.79 hermes delivery £5.00 vat £3.63 compound interest £6.00 original cost price ——— £21.29 costs / £3.61 profit (buyer is located in Barbican so it’ll buy half a pint of beer for the cost of looking after a coach for 8 years)... let’s hope he sells more than one eh ? Oh and finally... £6 in 2010 with inflation is £7.38... so that £3.61 profit only has actual spending power of £2.23 Now to be even more pedantic... Let’s say the box, combined with 8 others takes 1sq ft of space, in a 8ft high room 9x 8 = 72 coaches floor to ceiling... If In a typical 1bed 50 sq m apartment in london (seller is in Barbican), that can theoretically store 3600 coaches. The costs say £1000 per month, with £ 300 of bills.... for 8 years... £124,800 cost. £ 124800/3600 = £34.66 storage costs per coach... Now it’s really losing money... typically storage utilisation is around 30% of actual space occupied, so I f he was utilising that space 30%... then the loss is £104 + £4.12 = £108.12. He’d be better off buying £6 of Hornby shares @£1 each in 2010 instead and not renting the space in london to make money from model trains... his loss would only be £4.66. Of course had he bought the place in london in 2010 and sold it in 2018, he could afford to give the coach away. :-) Edited March 4, 2018 by adb968008 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Profit might not be your motive if, e.g., you're selling items for an estate, raising cash for other reasons. Maximising cash is not the same as maximising profit. OK, I give in, you win... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 More overpriced tat from Rails- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/O-GAUGE-RC-BATTERY-POWERED-ROYAL-SCOTS-GREY-BR-GREEN-DELTIC-LOCO-SOUND-OS/192319842823?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908110712%26meid%3D1220fb7e51684420b0ebcdb92777b829%26pid%3D100677%26rk%3D9%26rkt%3D30%26sd%3D122983842390%26itm%3D192319842823&_trksid=p2385738.c100677.m4598 I like the subtle body mods so itll negotiate curves. We value your Second hand collection very highly Well, they certainly do when selling it on. Regards More overpriced tat from Rails- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/O-GAUGE-RC-BATTERY-POWERED-ROYAL-SCOTS-GREY-BR-GREEN-DELTIC-LOCO-SOUND-OS/192319842823?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908110712%26meid%3D1220fb7e51684420b0ebcdb92777b829%26pid%3D100677%26rk%3D9%26rkt%3D30%26sd%3D122983842390%26itm%3D192319842823&_trksid=p2385738.c100677.m4598 I like the subtle body mods so itll negotiate curves. We value your Second hand collection very highly Well, they certainly do when selling it on. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejgray52 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) Something has just popped out of my memory.... Several years ago there was a guy on e-bay selling 'rare' Airfix kit locomotives. The one that springs to mind was a Battle of Britain class, the tender, with a few wheels and other bits missing, painted in Dulux vivid green by 6" brush for £50; the loco was separate, in, if anything, worse condition for £60..... Wonder if anyone bought them? My real annoyance are those people who will not post to the Isle of Wight; they class us as 'Highlands and Islands'. I have spotted some real bargains over the years, only to get 'Does not post to....' message appear on the screen. I know i could get it delivered to relatives/friends on the mainland and then sent on, but why should I cause them hassle? The few sellers who have responded to my question why?, They claim its because their courier charges extra... So why not use Royal Mail then - they manage to deliver here with no problem. Quite often ordered stuff one day and it is delivered the next day by the postie. Joke is that if I post a letter to another address on the Island, it goes to Portsmouth first to be sorted, then returns... I guess Royal Mail don't pay ferry fares...lol Rant over, thank you for listening (if you got this far...lol) Edited March 4, 2018 by ejgray52 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Abel Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 It certainly looks like it’s been dunked in something dark and gooey - perhaps the Tyne Docks... Cheers Darius Looks more like it was dropped in the local latrine and recovered a few days later! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejgray52 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Unrelated topic: How many Islanders does it take to change a light bulb? A. Change? We don't want change! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted March 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2018 Hmmm - not quite correct, methinks https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-Blue-Pullman-Train-set-Rare-DCC-Ready-OO-Gauge/162929746527?hash=item25ef5ea25f:g:VP0AAOSwJXhanFMa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giz Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Hmmm - not quite correct, methinks https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-Blue-Pullman-Train-set-Rare-DCC-Ready-OO-Gauge/162929746527?hash=item25ef5ea25f:g:VP0AAOSwJXhanFMa I don't think it's all that rare but it is a Hornby model of the 2000s Blue Pullman charter train: http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-a-class-47-locomotive-working-a-blue-pullman-charter-at-haddiscoe-86240085.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted March 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2018 Missed opportunities. Number one. I remember looking at a basket full of these at an exhibition a few years ago to see whether they would make into a decent representation of the engineering department vans, but decided they were too much like hard work to de-Thomasify them, so passed on them. The cost? £5 each, as according to the stallholder, nobody wanted them! Mike. You snooze, you lose........ Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Hmmm - not quite correct, methinks https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-Blue-Pullman-Train-set-Rare-DCC-Ready-OO-Gauge/162929746527?hash=item25ef5ea25f:g:VP0AAOSwJXhanFMa But it is blue and it says Pullman on the side! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted March 7, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2018 I know it's automated, but really eBay?? mmm those dublo bits and GWR coaches will go well with the APT-P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I think not. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/oo-Gauge-Boxed-Hornby-Tri-ang-Railways-RS-1-Train-Set/282867093956?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D49920%26meid%3D388005d7b22246bfa959798323287feb%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D162929746527%26itm%3D282867093956&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I know it's automated, but really eBay?? Capture.PNG mmm those dublo bits and GWR coaches will go well with the APT-P You're lucky I've had them with a list of made up of non railway related items. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejgray52 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I think not. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/oo-Gauge-Boxed-Hornby-Tri-ang-Railways-RS-1-Train-Set/282867093956?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D49920%26meid%3D388005d7b22246bfa959798323287feb%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D162929746527%26itm%3D282867093956&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1 Here's another one from the same seller; anyone fancy a go at motorising a Matchbox loco? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Joblot-Of-Model-Railway-Trains/282867004959?hash=item41dc2ff61f:g:DQQAAOSwZDdamFAX Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium rab Posted March 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 8, 2018 This post is not so much about the possible madness of eBay buyers/sellers as the apparent madness of eBay itself. I did my usual search for N gauge this morning. Now I have become accustomed to the occasional rogue result either due to stuff being listed in the wrong category or the eBay search showing stuff just because the title includes an N, but today's search results included: Christmas Cards Valentine's Cards Colouring Pens Dulux Paint Deoderant for Athletes Treatment for a Unitary Tract Infection ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Here's another one from the same seller; anyone fancy a go at motorising a Matchbox loco? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Joblot-Of-Model-Railway-Trains/282867004959?hash=item41dc2ff61f:g:DQQAAOSwZDdamFAX £100 and it's got a bid !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 £100 and it's got a bid !!! Just about 4 locos (assuming they all do actually work) and a load of junk - I suppose someone has managed to justify it but it certainly would not be me! Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted March 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2018 £100 and it's got a bid !!! Someone with a score of 2. What's the betting he* gets cold feet and doesn't pay? *other genders available Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted March 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 8, 2018 Just had an email from ebay to say that this has been reduced from £86.99 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253249933054?ul_noapp=true Cheers, MKick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Just had an email from ebay to say that this has been reduced from £86.99 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253249933054?ul_noapp=true Cheers, MKick Sadly its HO gauge so no good to us modelling in OO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2018 Just had an email from ebay to say that this has been reduced from £86.99 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253249933054?ul_noapp=true Cheers, MKick You'll be MKicking yourself if you don't buy it! Mike. (or MKike). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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