royaloak Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 12 hours ago, markneilp14 said: I was hoping that they would not question it too much to be honest as i made them a low offer based on it being damaged. After all their 2nd hand prices are nearly always more than the new prices for the same or equivalent models. I still suspect it has been mishandled or dropped at some point so i now would not touch this based on the fact that i want to inspect it all over first. Also it would be useful if the people at Hattons could try to take a decent pic and make sure that the model is presented well. The people who deal with these models are not model railway people and have no real idea. by the way i offered them £10 plus the postage, I know i was trying/pushing my luck!!! If you compare the before and after pictures it looks to me as if the boiler is broken behind the 'smokebox' at the first white boiler band, and the running plate split just behind the smoke deflector, buyer beware. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2020 This livery looked good on a Deltic. Not so much on a Peak though... Pro weathered again... Not as awful as the DB red Peak, I suppose. Cheers Darius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2020 7 hours ago, Darius43 said: This livery looked good on a Deltic. Not so much on a Peak though... Pro weathered again... Not as awful as the DB red Peak, I suppose. Cheers Darius Why do people let prostitutes weather things? Mike. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2020 23 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said: Why do people let prostitutes weather things? Mike. Everyone needs a hobby... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markneilp14 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 12 hours ago, royaloak said: If you compare the before and after pictures it looks to me as if the boiler is broken behind the 'smokebox' at the first white boiler band, and the running plate split just behind the smoke deflector, buyer beware. oh i agree but i offered them a tenner on the basis that something is better than nothing !!!! did not work sadly 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Did the "PRO WEATHERED LOOK" Involve dropping it into a muddy river? Unfortunately no CDA I know of has ever looked like that. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/402079401898?ul_noapp=true 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, surfsup said: Did the "PRO WEATHERED LOOK" Involve dropping it into a muddy river? Unfortunately no CDA I know of has ever looked like that. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/402079401898?ul_noapp=true Some might say you are very polite to call it a "muddy river" I was think of something much more like an effluent outlet. Anyway, they seem quite proud of their creations. Quote The aim of weathering is to give the models a sense of realism that they simply dont have straight out of the box and remove their plastic appearance. In reality even within a few days of service locos and wagons become dirtied so why not replicate this in model form. From track dirt to exhaust fumes it can all be replicated by TheWeatheringWorks. As well as selling weathered stock direct I also offer a weathering service by which you send me whatever you would like weathering and i send it back to you weathered to your desires. Prices for the weathering service can be found on the Weathering service page. This service varies from a dusting of dirt to reflect stock not long in service to a thoroughly uncared for and dirty piece which has chipped faded paintwork etc. A multitude of colours, techniques and mediums are used to enhance the appearance of your stock. http://www.theweatheringworks.co.uk/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2020 32 minutes ago, KeithMacdonald said: Some might say you are very polite to call it a "muddy river" I was think of something much more like an effluent outlet. Anyway, they seem quite proud of their creations. http://www.theweatheringworks.co.uk/ Looking at the splatter pattern on the Western on their homepage it looks like it was sat next to something that exploded. Maybe there was a blockage in the airbrush that suddenly cleared... Cheers Darius 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Abel Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Darius43 said: Maybe there was a blockage in the airbrush that suddenly cleared... I was thinking airbrush should more likely be replaced with "SEWER" 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, Darius43 said: Looking at the splatter pattern on the Western on their homepage it looks like it was sat next to something that exploded. Maybe there was a blockage in the airbrush that suddenly cleared... Cheers Darius Folks (like me) who have lived on the coast would often find that kind of "weathering pattern" on anything that didn't move. We'd usually assume a flock of incontinent seagulls had just flown by. Not for nothing did we call them "shyt hawks". Maybe this Western is stored somewhere like Swansea Fish Dock? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2020 He also falls into the TEA trap! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2020 32 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said: He also falls into the TEA trap! Mike. Would that be big spillage stains at the central sample port? Cheers Darius 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Darius43 said: Would that be big spillage stains at the central sample port? Cheers Darius A trap a lot of modellers seem to fall into! Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forest2807 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) I sold a few small items recently and received the feedback above. You just can’t win sometimes... Edited February 13, 2020 by forest2807 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, forest2807 said: I sold a few small items recently and received the feedback above. You just can’t win sometimes... You should ask him what the ideal optimal amount is, he seems to be an expert in the field! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) Perhaps there is a clue to colour in the name - China Clay - as to colour and constituency? In my youth, we used to visit my grandparents in Plympton. They lived opposite Tavistock Junction marshalling yard separated by the Tory Brook, which used to run white! (cleaned up now). Edited February 14, 2020 by Il Grifone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Il Grifone said: Perhaps there is a clue to colour in the name - China Clay - as to colour and constituency? Perhaps "PRO WEATHERED LOOK" means that the seller is creating the impression of the item having been weathered by a professional rather than actually having been weathered by a professional. That way all the weathering can essentially be the same with the minimum of colours used - sewage brown being the favourite. Cheers Darius PS - I should admit that I am guilty of this myself - I have also fallen into the TEA trap - but I tend to limit weathering to the underframes of locos and rolling stock unless I am feeling adventurous. I also do not consider myself to be a pro (with respect to weatherering that is). 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) TEA Trap - Mea Culpe. Have reported myself in and am awaiting a knock on the door..... Edited February 14, 2020 by Phil Bullock 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Phil Bullock said: and am awaiting a knock on the door..... Be afraid, be very afraid, our paths will cross one day!! Mike. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Enterprisingwestern said: Be afraid, be very afraid, our paths will cross one day!! Mike. I did wonder if Doncaster was safe last weekend.......!!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said: A trap a lot of modellers seem to fall into! Mike. Thats not fuel overspill, thats where he knocked his cuppa over Edited February 14, 2020 by Talltim 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Pedantically, doesn't 'professional' just mean 'paid to do it' without necessarily being any good? 1 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2020 Not mad but what a build.....! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223910102132?ul_noapp=true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 18 minutes ago, Re6/6 said: Not mad but what a build.....! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223910102132?ul_noapp=true You just can't put a price on craftsmanship......and this certainly isn't ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Re6/6 said: Not mad but what a build.....! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223910102132?ul_noapp=true Perhaps they should have stopped with Airfix two bob kits? Mike. Edited February 15, 2020 by Enterprisingwestern missing word 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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