RMweb Gold RFS Posted April 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 30, 2021 Amused at this listing of a scrapyard Schools class loco. Not only is it still in pre-war Southern livery, but it's number 928 which is one of three that has been preserved! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, RFS said: Amused at this listing of a scrapyard Schools class loco. Not only is it still in pre-war Southern livery, but it's number 928 which is one of three that has been preserved! Yeah to be fair he’s not a bad heavy weatherer and some of his items look good. A whole line of them would be a good backdrop. He isn’t prototypically minded though as many of the items are not wearing their ‘death masks’ or did not linger long enough to end up like that. Blue pullmans for example. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, RFS said: Amused at this listing of a scrapyard Schools class loco. Not only is it still in pre-war Southern livery, but it's number 928 which is one of three that has been preserved! Nothing quite like attention to detail! Stowe was built in 1934. Begs the question why the Southern would have scrapped such a young loco!? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted April 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 30, 2021 31 minutes ago, ianmacc said: Yeah to be fair he’s not a bad heavy weatherer and some of his items look good. A whole line of them would be a good backdrop. He isn’t prototypically minded though as many of the items are not wearing their ‘death masks’ or did not linger long enough to end up like that. Blue pullmans for example. Actually this seller is one of the ones I referred to in an earlier message. At least they only charge about twice the price of the kits, which is probably quite reasonable for their time to build and weather it (Build = 30 minutes, Weathering = 30 seconds). This is obviously a non-running Hornby Schools so again, not much profit for their time. But I'm afraid that is terrible weathering; there is absolutely no prototypical observation gone into it and they apply it to everything they sell. In fact they have been doing it to the same poor standard for at least five years, so they obviously sell enough to not bother trying any harder. Seriously, anyone on this thread could do better with an assortment of paints and 30 minutes practice. 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Northmoor said: Actually this seller is one of the ones I referred to in an earlier message. At least they only charge about twice the price of the kits, which is probably quite reasonable for their time to build and weather it (Build = 30 minutes, Weathering = 30 seconds). This is obviously a non-running Hornby Schools so again, not much profit for their time. But I'm afraid that is terrible weathering; there is absolutely no prototypical observation gone into it and they apply it to everything they sell. In fact they have been doing it to the same poor standard for at least five years, so they obviously sell enough to not bother trying any harder. Seriously, anyone on this thread could do better with an assortment of paints and 30 minutes practice. Aimed at a market that won't ask the same questions we would ask? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 45 minutes ago, Northmoor said: Actually this seller is one of the ones I referred to in an earlier message. At least they only charge about twice the price of the kits, which is probably quite reasonable for their time to build and weather it (Build = 30 minutes, Weathering = 30 seconds). This is obviously a non-running Hornby Schools so again, not much profit for their time. But I'm afraid that is terrible weathering; there is absolutely no prototypical observation gone into it and they apply it to everything they sell. In fact they have been doing it to the same poor standard for at least five years, so they obviously sell enough to not bother trying any harder. Seriously, anyone on this thread could do better with an assortment of paints and 30 minutes practice. Oh I don’t know! This is a pretty good representation of the 45 at the battlefield line lol 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 37 minutes ago, ianmacc said: Oh I don’t know! This is a pretty good representation of the 45 at the battlefield line lol Oh my! Someone's nicked the wheels! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, RFS said: Amused at this listing of a scrapyard Schools class loco. Not only is it still in pre-war Southern livery, but it's number 928 which is one of three that has been preserved! This appears to be an example from the GBL Collection...as referred to by myself in an earlier posting on here. Edited April 30, 2021 by Ruffnut Thorston Link added... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, ianmacc said: Oh I don’t know! This is a pretty good representation of the 45 at the battlefield line lol This would be an ex motorised model, the powered bogie being removed, and sold separately....Made by Mainline? Or Bachmann? I am thinking Mainline myself... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Northmoor said: Actually this seller is one of the ones I referred to in an earlier message. At least they only charge about twice the price of the kits, which is probably quite reasonable for their time to build and weather it (Build = 30 minutes, Weathering = 30 seconds). This is obviously a non-running Hornby Schools so again, not much profit for their time. But I'm afraid that is terrible weathering; there is absolutely no prototypical observation gone into it and they apply it to everything they sell. In fact they have been doing it to the same poor standard for at least five years, so they obviously sell enough to not bother trying any harder. Seriously, anyone on this thread could do better with an assortment of paints and 30 minutes practice. The way most are rusted to my eye has more in common with burned out cars visually. I suspect that the brass Schools nameplates wouldn't have remained on the loco either. They would no doubt have been "liberated". 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 At least the "rusting" tends to be done better than some stuff that appears, depicted as "burnt out" by having a blowtorch waved (presumably briefly) at it. I may not know much about weathering, but I'm pretty certain that wooden brake vans and steel coaches don't go blobby in a fire. 2 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 13 hours ago, RFS said: Amused at this listing of a scrapyard Schools class loco. Not only is it still in pre-war Southern livery, but it's number 928 which is one of three that has been preserved! He's offering another one too... He's not really appeared to have looked at "condemned siding" loco photographs, which show uncared for, DIRTY locomotives. The alleged scrapyard engines* look as they would after a decade or two in somewhere like Barry, with lines of well rusted hulks, not parked in a siding as illustrated! And how did the Class 45 get into its siding missing a bogie, and how would it be moved out for scrapping? * We won't even go into the noted livery faux pas... 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted May 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2021 9 hours ago, Ruffnut Thorston said: This would be an ex motorised model, the powered bogie being removed, and sold separately....Made by Mainline? Or Bachmann? I am thinking Mainline myself... You are unsure and asking a question, wow!!!!! Mike. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Well, Mainline isn’t my main interest, and Bachmann reintroduced ex Mainline models.... The detail differences between some diesel locos are also not so high up in my interests... 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted May 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2021 And he sells quite a lot too - here's an LMS Duchess on the scrap line still fully streamlined. Sold for £24.95 .... 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Give this Guy a break- it's not everybody's cup of tea but ticks many boxes- something to do with spare models that would otherwise sit unused, something different that'll be the talking point of the average train set when visitors come round, and as is evident here- like most exhibition layouts it's inspiration to follow the same theme or do better. What someone does on or with their own train set in a loft isn't my business, unless they're still peddling the notion that running trains on carpet isn't an issue. I'd agree that the weathering isn't that authentic, but follows what can be seen on preserved railway scraplines up and down the country (with faded paint on a big four livery) more than something that would have happened after the loco was withdrawn from general traffic. It also inspired me to have a go at recreating a certain unmentioned diesel using a GBL model... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted May 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2021 13 hours ago, Northmoor said: Actually this seller is one of the ones I referred to in an earlier message. At least they only charge about twice the price of the kits, which is probably quite reasonable for their time to build and weather it (Build = 30 minutes, Weathering = 30 seconds). This is obviously a non-running Hornby Schools so again, not much profit for their time. But I'm afraid that is terrible weathering; there is absolutely no prototypical observation gone into it and they apply it to everything they sell. In fact they have been doing it to the same poor standard for at least five years, so they obviously sell enough to not bother trying any harder. Seriously, anyone on this thread could do better with an assortment of paints and 30 minutes practice. He needs to study the difference between how a steam engine weathers and a diesel... both different 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 11 hours ago, Ruffnut Thorston said: This would be an ex motorised model, the powered bogie being removed, and sold separately....Made by Mainline? Or Bachmann? I am thinking Mainline myself... I think it’s replica. Bachmann had twin powered bogies and Mainline didn’t do that nose end variation. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 12 hours ago, RFS said: And he sells quite a lot too - here's an LMS Duchess on the scrap line still fully streamlined. Sold for £24.95 .... Another GBL based model...No. 2 in the series... 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) Curiously, given our past discussions re ebay traders dismantling models and selling the component parts, I note a similar activity occurred in "this very boutique", concerning a certain 00 GWR loco body & chassis! Edited May 4, 2021 by Paul H Vigor to add information 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-DIMB Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, Paul H Vigor said: Curiously, given our past discussions re ebay traders dismantling models and selling the component parts, I note a similar activity occurred in "this very boutique", concerning a certain 00 GWR loco body & chassis! Did it involve a Norwegian Blue variant? Was it the nails that gave it away? The trouble is spare parts for some models is drying up and so demand for them goes up. The only way to get said parts is either through reproduction or dismantling "runners". Indeed i wonder if the fact that many of the newer generation of models have specific parts rather than the days of Lima and Hornby where a part would be reused over many models is making this more common and is growing into what is a massive market. In fact i recently bought 10 Lima 67s which were in a fair to poor state of repair (i do want a few but the seller wanted to sell them as a joblot so it was either all ten or none). I did consider using three of them for parts keeping the two i want, sell the other 5 or 6 as good complete models and sell the others for bits. However having seen what a good Lima 67 sells for compared to spare parts i could sell those 8 split for parts for nearly three times the price i could sell 5 working and 3 odds simply because of the demand so that what I'm going to do after all why on earth would you turn the money for nothing down? Edited May 4, 2021 by G-DIMB Added a bit i forgot to write! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 On 01/05/2021 at 17:43, RFS said: And he sells quite a lot too - here's an LMS Duchess on the scrap line still fully streamlined. Sold for £24.95 .... On 02/05/2021 at 06:36, Ruffnut Thorston said: Another GBL based model...No. 2 in the series... It always makes we wonder who would buy these streamliners, as non ever ended up looking like that, the casings were removed long before they were scrapped. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted May 5, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 5, 2021 And that particular GBL model has also been quite rare. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: And that particular GBL model has also been quite rare. Do you mean rare or R@RE!!!! ? Just asking for a friend, like.... 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: And that particular GBL model has also been quite rare. Well, I never saw one in a shop, and so didn’t get one... Maybe just as well, as I still have a good few GBL locos in stock for tinkering with, including the usual not finished pile! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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