Hroth Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, John Besley said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Die-Cast-Kit-Built-BR-Brightlingsea-4-6-0-Locomotive-Tender-340-/303972613635?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286 What exactly is this meant to be.... should it be on the imagery locomotive page... Its the experimental Psychadelic BR livery from the mid 60s applied to a "model" of a GT3 locomotive... I can't make my mind up about the model itself. I keep thinking that the best match is a heavily doctored Airfix/Dapol BoB, a Triang B12 chassis and the side mouldings of an Airfix/Dapol City of Truro leading bogie clumsily screwed onto the B12s leading bogie. However, with the buffer beam damage, and the description of "diecast", it can't be! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_GT3 The real loco looked like this: Edited May 13, 2021 by Hroth 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Could it be a Dublo or Wrenn body? Whatever it is, there's 12 bids on it up to now. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 33 minutes ago, MrWolf said: Could it be a Dublo or Wrenn body? Whatever it is, there's 12 bids on it up to now. There are some nutters about! 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted May 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Hroth said: There are some nutters about! I think the model is worthy of closer attention. It's just a pity that the builder seems to have lost its way. The front bogie on the model has a degree of side control, and the wheels are Romfords, so someone has thought about it. Might be that the builder had a photo, and then lost it..... 12 bids on £23:00, as well. I'm neither a vendor of bidder in this instance, but I'm naturally interested on the 'take' on the concept. 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted May 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 13, 2021 This junk dealer still doesn't get it. This and several others have been up for I reckon over 18 months at this same unrealistic price. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144037333433?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m43.l1120&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=7e39d3277c6c46b4a18923d11e3af7b8&bu=43704251606&ut=RU&exe=98456&ext=232174&logid=nqt%3DAAAAAAAAAAIAAAAAAAAAAAAgAAEAIAAAAAAAAAAIAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAEAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACAAQAAAAAAAAAACAAAAAAAAAAAAEA**%26nqc%3DAAAAAAAAAAIAAAAAAAAAAAAgAAEAIAAAAAAAAAAIAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAEAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACAAQAAAAAAAAAACAAAAAAAAAAAAEA**%26mdbreftime%3D1620895246981%26es%3D3%26ec%3D1&osub=-1~1&crd=20210513015100&segname=11021&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cnqt%3Dnqt%2Cnqc%3Dnqc%2Cmdbreftime%3Dmdbreftime%2Ces%3Des%2Cec%3Dec%2Cexe%3Dexe%2Cext%3Dext%2Cexe%3Dexe%2Cext%3Dext%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 7 hours ago, John Besley said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Die-Cast-Kit-Built-BR-Brightlingsea-4-6-0-Locomotive-Tender-340-/303972613635?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286 What exactly is this meant to be.... should it be on the imagery locomotive page... It's a model of the little known Bullied Furbomotive. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted May 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, Paul H Vigor said: It's a model of the little known Bullied Furbomotive. No it's not, but close. It's the 'Look! RARE! Bully-eyed Gerto-Motive... Named 'Brightlingsea' due to a slip-up with the postcode. Built from carefully-built components from the embryonic Brightlingsea & Dogger Bank Junction Railway. The engineer, Mr R. Scratcher, had high hopes for the class. Alas, on its first public outing the locomotive, driven by the engineers cousin, Dick Holdeur, drove the locomotive into the sea. At the board of enquiry, it was caused by the signalman, Sherbert McGuiness, pulling the wrong lever. Never mix Strongbow with IPA.... Unperturbed, Mr Scratcher went onwards to his next development, the much-celebrated A12. The concept showed great promise, but was severely damaged by a refrigerated artic on the Colchester bypass. It's true, I tell you! All true! 1 3 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 54 minutes ago, tomparryharry said: No it's not, but close. It's the 'Look! RARE! Bully-eyed Gerto-Motive... Named 'Brightlingsea' due to a slip-up with the postcode. Built from carefully-built components from the embryonic Brightlingsea & Dogger Bank Junction Railway. The engineer, Mr R. Scratcher, had high hopes for the class. Alas, on its first public outing the locomotive, driven by the engineers cousin, Dick Holdeur, drove the locomotive into the sea. At the board of enquiry, it was caused by the signalman, Sherbert McGuiness, pulling the wrong lever. Never mix Strongbow with IPA.... Unperturbed, Mr Scratcher went onwards to his next development, the much-celebrated A12. The concept showed great promise, but was severely damaged by a refrigerated artic on the Colchester bypass. It's true, I tell you! All true! Awesome carts! Chapter & verse! Most impressed! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted May 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Paul H Vigor said: Awesome carts! Chapter & verse! Most impressed! Thank you. Like Monty Python, 50% is gold, 50% is utter tosh... Now, If I could remember which is which..... 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted May 13, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 13, 2021 On 11/05/2021 at 09:55, Ruffnut Thorston said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/an2tique/m.html?item=265153903656&hash=item3dbc677c28%3Ag%3AW2oAAOSwKYZgl5HE&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562 This seller has a lot of railway stuff, possibly from an estate sale... There are various kits and parts, and instructions... If only it had been properly sorted out before listing... Some good stuff by here! Well I put in a couple of cheeky bids on two lots but didn't win. The winners got some real bargains, the OO-9 locos, if they work or can be made to, are exceptional bargains. If the seller had spotted the NG items and listed them together instead of some random mixed lots, they would have made much more. There are still a few listings to go, but even if I win nothing, I won't regret missing out on anything, I have far too many unfinished projects already...... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Northmoor said: Well I put in a couple of cheeky bids on two lots but didn't win. Good job you didn't try that with IoW tube stock - you might have got lumbered with having to collect it! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: Good job you didn't try that with IoW tube stock - you might have got lumbered with having to collect it! And then having to explain yourself to SWMBO! 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 12 hours ago, MrWolf said: Could it be a Dublo or Wrenn body? Whatever it is, there's 12 bids on it up to now. WHAT?!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, MartinWales said: WHAT?!! 13 bids, £29 now... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Just now, Hroth said: 13 bids, £29 now... One born every minute..... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Just now, MartinWales said: One born every minute..... Or should that be thirteen! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted May 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 13, 2021 It’s missing the green hubcaps on the main drivers, the front truck may be the wrong way around and as for the colour... Certain folks here are going to be highly vexed. Cheers Darius 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 30 minutes ago, Hroth said: 13 bids, £29 now... I wonder it will turn into one of those weird ebay feeding frenzies as the clock ticks down?? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Paul H Vigor said: I wonder it will turn into one of those weird ebay feeding frenzies as the clock ticks down?? 13 fools are never wrong.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Darius43 said: It’s missing the green hubcaps on the main drivers, the front truck may be the wrong way around and as for the colour... Certain folks here are going to be highly vexed. Cheers Darius "Constructed to a professional standard."! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Hroth said: Its the experimental Psychadelic BR livery from the mid 60s applied to a "model" of a GT3 locomotive... I can't make my mind up about the model itself. I keep thinking that the best match is a heavily doctored Airfix/Dapol BoB, a Triang B12 chassis and the side mouldings of an Airfix/Dapol City of Truro leading bogie clumsily screwed onto the B12s leading bogie. However, with the buffer beam damage, and the description of "diecast", it can't be! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_GT3 The real loco looked like this: I beg to differ...I think you are right on the money. At least regards the body origins. Look at the rear view of the tender, with the moulded ladders. This is almost certainly a moulded plastic model...The Dapol kit I would guess, moulded in grey plastic, as seen in the damaged front buffer beam. Certainly the tender... Possibly someone thinking of diecast plastic? Looking at the underside photo...I was wondering about the cross rods, at first thinking they may be brake linkages... But looking again at the loco on the track...these are the pick ups? I can’t see how that may work? There looks to be some lettering on the underside by the driving wheels...top of photo... I can’t read it, but possibly Dapol something...? A very interesting loco.... Edited May 13, 2021 by Ruffnut Thorston Typo 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 42 minutes ago, Ruffnut Thorston said: I beg to differ...I think you are right on the money. At least regards the body origins. Look at the rear view of the tender, with the moulded ladders. This is almost certainly a moulded plastic model...The Dapol kit I would guess, moulded in grey plastic, as seen in the damaged front buffer beam. Certainly the tender... Possibly someone thinking of diecast plastic? Looking at the underside photo...I was wondering about the cross rods, at first thinking they may be brake linkages... But looking again at the loco on the track...these are the pick ups? I can’t see how that may work? There looks to be some lettering on the underside by the driving wheels...top of photo... I can’t read it, but possibly Dapol something...? A very interesting loco.... There's certainly some curious engineering going on underneath! The leading bogie is defo 'engineered'! I was wondering about the pickups - initial thoughts concerned outside third rail power pickup? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 18 hours ago, John Besley said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Die-Cast-Kit-Built-BR-Brightlingsea-4-6-0-Locomotive-Tender-340-/303972613635?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286 What exactly is this meant to be.... should it be on the imagery locomotive page... It's Leprechaun Rail's little-known experimental prototype turf burner. I'll just wait for Accurascale Ireland to bring it out in the correct brighter shade of green. 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 50 minutes ago, Paul H Vigor said: There's certainly some curious engineering going on underneath! The leading bogie is defo 'engineered'! I was wondering about the pickups - initial thoughts concerned outside third rail power pickup? Chassis looks 'vintage'? What do we make of the centre pair of drivers? Some kind of brass alloy? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Paul H Vigor said: There's certainly some curious engineering going on underneath! The leading bogie is defo 'engineered'! I was wondering about the pickups - initial thoughts concerned outside third rail power pickup? bertiedog Members 2,612 6,109 posts Location: City of Rochester Kent Author Posted November 12, 2011 In case it is queried, outside third pickups are arranged on flat plate thin phosphor bronze spring plates, usually split , to aid independent movement and allow the gear wheel space to stick through the spring! Half round wire was used to maximise contact with the side rails, which could be on either side as needed, or indeed both sides over points. The contacts barely show in use, except for any sparks!! Some pickups had single thin plates, un-split, and could a small stud underneath set to run on Hornby three rail track. The outside rail is still made by Peco, and usually was set 2mm above the running rails. Hornby three rail really demanded two pickups to work, but outside third works with just one to provide continuous power. It made coach lighting quite easy as the coach bogies could all have simple wire pickups as well. Stephen. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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