Paul H Vigor Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, SteveyDee68 said: If you check the details, you'll also see that it is "multicoloured" and "unpainted" ... And I didn't realise that the "Flying Scotsman" was a Midland Railway 0-4-4 tank engine, either ... maybe that's why it is so expensive?! Steve S Haha! "Flying Scotsman" 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, SteveyDee68 said: If you check the details, you'll also see that it is "multicoloured" and "unpainted" ... Not only that, given that the box illustration is of a pre-grouping Midland engine, that only 8 survived to nationalisation and the last withdrawn in 1954, saying that it's an "Era 4 - British Railways Steam Era (1948-1956)" locomotive is pushing things a bit! As for "SUOER DETAILED", I suppose that depends on how well you build it. Quote Paul H Vigor said "SUOER DETAILED OO SCALE LOCO KIT" - Suoer?? The electrical company from Foshan, Guangdong, by any chance?? Its amazing how many ebay listings of small electronic devices are apparently from a vendor in "Manchester"* Guangdong. All the listing needs to be a true classic would have been the inclusion of "L@@K RARE!!!" somewhere... * Other UK towns and cities are available. Edited June 12, 2021 by Hroth 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted June 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 12, 2021 46 minutes ago, Hroth said: Not only that, given that the box illustration is of a pre-grouping Midland engine, that only 8 survived to nationalisation and the last withdrawn in 1954, saying that it's an "Era 4 - British Railways Steam Era (1948-1956)" locomotive is pushing things a bit! As for "SUOER DETAILED", I suppose that depends on how well you build it. Its amazing how many ebay listings of small electronic devices are apparently from a vendor in "Manchester"* Guangdong. All the listing needs to be a true classic would have been the inclusion of "L@@K RARE!!!" somewhere... * Other UK towns and cities are available. There are several places around the world making steel products such as cutlery named Sheffield. Some dating back to the 50's. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkersson Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 9 hours ago, SteveyDee68 said: Maybe not, but a post on one of the Facebook model railway groups naming and shaming them might go viral, then get picked up by the media, amongst whom will be those that also see this for what it is, profiteering on the back of a gesture made by Hornby to honour someone who made a difference, and help raise money at the same time for the charities he supported. And public opinion is a mighty powerful thing ... Steve "Disgusted of Greater Manchester" S The donation to charity was made at original point of sale. It is then up to the individual to do what they want with the item after that, if that means advertising it for a profit, then so be it. Profit is only made if the item sells, and if it sells, then it sells to someone who really wants it. All profit is the sellers, they do not need to, nor are obliged to, give any of that to charity. The seller may set the price, but they are not forcing anyone to buy, and who is to say the seller wont be giving the profit to charity, they don't need to advertise it. Charity donation is a personal and private matter. I said on another thread that I bought my house from a builder who donated a percentage of the sale to a national childrens charity, if/when I sell this house, and make a 20k profit, should I give that profit to charity? Would you? As to raising it on Facebook, that will fall flat on its face. Facebook is a 'me me me' platform. Focus should be on the man who prompted Hornby's gesture, not on squabbling about the price of a secondhand item that has already provided the charity donation. 2 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted June 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 12, 2021 39 minutes ago, Monkersson said: The donation to charity was made at original point of sale. It is then up to the individual to do what they want with the item after that, if that means advertising it for a profit, then so be it. Profit is only made if the item sells, and if it sells, then it sells to someone who really wants it. All profit is the sellers, they do not need to, nor are obliged to, give any of that to charity. The seller may set the price, but they are not forcing anyone to buy, and who is to say the seller wont be giving the profit to charity, they don't need to advertise it. Charity donation is a personal and private matter. I said on another thread that I bought my house from a builder who donated a percentage of the sale to a national childrens charity, if/when I sell this house, and make a 20k profit, should I give that profit to charity? Would you? As to raising it on Facebook, that will fall flat on its face. Facebook is a 'me me me' platform. Focus should be on the man who prompted Hornby's gesture, not on squabbling about the price of a secondhand item that has already provided the charity donation. Up to a point I agree*, but this is very similar to people who buy tickets to charity concerts (thereby having made their donation) then sell them on at grossly inflated prices (which we can safely assume, little or nothing goes to the charity). It's not really in the spirit of the event is it? * I used to sell autojumble and a great source of workshop manuals was charity shops. One or two friends said I was profiteering out of charity and as my margins were probably 100-200% as well, yes, they were probably right. However I would say I NEVER asked for a discount and normally rounded up to the nearest pound. What did I do with my "profits"? Bought more books in charity shops......... some years I was probably spending over £200 in charity shops. I wonder how many of my friends spent that much in them? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkersson Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Northmoor said: Up to a point I agree*, but this is very similar to people who buy tickets to charity concerts (thereby having made their donation) then sell them on at grossly inflated prices (which we can safely assume, little or nothing goes to the charity). It's not really in the spirit of the event is it? * I used to sell autojumble and a great source of workshop manuals was charity shops. One or two friends said I was profiteering out of charity and as my margins were probably 100-200% as well, yes, they were probably right. However I would say I NEVER asked for a discount and normally rounded up to the nearest pound. What did I do with my "profits"? Bought more books in charity shops......... some years I was probably spending over £200 in charity shops. I wonder how many of my friends spent that much in them? Its maybe not in the spirit of the event, but the charity donation has already been made. If these charity concert promoters thought there would be a sustained demand at the prices resellers sell for, then the point of sale price would be much higher. Its the people who buy these tickets at the inflated prices that need questions asked of them. Sadly these days people will pay anything to be seen 'doing the right thing' so they can brag to their social media followers. They wont mention they paid £200 for a £40 ticket, but will gloat that they are at the event saying they are supporting the charity. These days there is a growing number of people who need to be seen to be better than everyone else, no matter the costs. Look at all the high end cars on the roads - most probably the majority financed to the hilt and on the brink of financial collapse with one out of warranty repair. But back to the Class 66, these appeal to collectors, and collectors will sometimes pay through the nose for things they really want. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 11 hours ago, MarkC said: Not so much Madness but Optimism... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/294210001353?du=5&ul_noapp=true How much? Think the clue is in the ebay ID-CRAZY! 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
centraltrains Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124766898164?hash=item1d0cafc7f4:g:MJwAAOSwpgZgwknO A never-ran DCC Fitted model which will have been hard wired to be DCC Fitted.... must be arrogantly confident soldering. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, centraltrains said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124766898164?hash=item1d0cafc7f4:g:MJwAAOSwpgZgwknO A never-ran DCC Fitted model which will have been hard wired to be DCC Fitted.... must be arrogantly confident soldering. The description is better though, makes clear that the unit was new, DCC fitted, tested but not otherwise used. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted June 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 12, 2021 18 hours ago, SteveyDee68 said: If you check the details, you'll also see that it is "multicoloured" and "unpainted" ... And I didn't realise that the "Flying Scotsman" was a Midland Railway 0-4-4 tank engine, either ... maybe that's why it is so expensive?! Steve S Odd that brass is made out of whitemetal.... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy WD Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 22 hours ago, Paul H Vigor said: Haha! "Flying Scotsman" Assuming it's an 1833 class and built by Dubs or Neilson it could be a 'Scotsman' at least...even if it didn't fly along that well 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 13 hours ago, col.stephens said: The seller says it is complete but the photos show only one set of driving wheels. All of a sudden this 4-4-0 has become a 4-2-0! I think that the seller is now entitled to use the word 'RARE'! I'm sure you mean R@RE! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmedune Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 There were a couple more expensive items, but they were quite vintage. This on the other hand... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333933848032 1 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 10 hours ago, MartinWales said: I'm sure you mean R@RE! That just never stops being funny! I have a Tri-ang insulfish van somewhere (missing it's roof of course.) I feel like putting it on eBay then squeezing R@RE!! and L@@K!! into the title, just because... 3 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveyDee68 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 8 hours ago, Esmedune said: There were a couple more expensive items, but they were quite vintage. This on the other hand... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333933848032 Would one expect any less from the infamous Mr G?! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveyDee68 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 There's another kind of eBay madness on the loose right now ... It's called "The Euros" ... Tonight I placed a few bids quite some time before the auctions finished, and normally, if I am lucky, perhaps one might win (the others being grabbed at the last second) The silence was deafening ... Tumbleweed was observed blowing across the rooms housing the eBay servers ... And just like that all my bids came in, all but one without any bids against them! These were for various Bachmann wagons and I got them for a steal (individually) ... it's when they all win that it quickly adds up! One item that appeared was a lovely Kernow Bulleid diesel, going for the very reasonable BIN of £220 (or best offer) ... I don't have anywhere near the necessary funds right now, but if you are after one for your layout* I would grab it quick before the likes of Gostude snap it up** and immediately sell it for double the price! Steve S * Assuming that nobody on RMWeb is of the price-gouging persuasion! ** Even worse, one of those chancers who will split it into body, chassis, bogies and box and sell each constituent part for an inflated sum! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted June 14, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 14, 2021 5 hours ago, SteveyDee68 said: There's another kind of eBay madness on the loose right now ... It's called "The Euros" ... Tonight I placed a few bids quite some time before the auctions finished, and normally, if I am lucky, perhaps one might win (the others being grabbed at the last second) The silence was deafening ... Tumbleweed was observed blowing across the rooms housing the eBay servers ... And just like that all my bids came in, all but one without any bids against them! These were for various Bachmann wagons and I got them for a steal (individually) ... it's when they all win that it quickly adds up! One item that appeared was a lovely Kernow Bulleid diesel, going for the very reasonable BIN of £220 (or best offer) ... I don't have anywhere near the necessary funds right now, but if you are after one for your layout* I would grab it quick before the likes of Gostude snap it up** and immediately sell it for double the price! Steve S * Assuming that nobody on RMWeb is of the price-gouging persuasion! ** Even worse, one of those chancers who will split it into body, chassis, bogies and box and sell each constituent part for an inflated sum! Nice one Opposite for me - I'd been watching a coach kit (D&S so was expecting it to go for a fair bit) and to keep the football theme, I was winning until the ref was about to blow his whistle for full time it jumped to over £100! That's a lot more than a "fair bit" in my eyes 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveyDee68 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Bucoops said: Nice one Opposite for me - I'd been watching a coach kit (D&S so was expecting it to go for a fair bit) and to keep the football theme, I was winning until the ref was about to blow his whistle for full time it jumped to over £100! That's a lot more than a "fair bit" in my eyes I just noticed your signature - Rich. Still got my modelling L plates Gave me a proper laugh that, until I realised that mine should probably read - Steve. Failed the modelling theory test twice already 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-DIMB Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Funnily enough all my items did even better than expected last night but then again it was not long after the whistle had blown. Maybe people were cheered up and decided to spend! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 This is bit steep... https://tinyurl.com/39at92xu I would not have thought the book was that rare. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted June 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, jonny777 said: This is bit steep... https://tinyurl.com/39at92xu I would not have thought the book was that rare. It does appear to be, in terms of copies for sale. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tim Hall Posted June 14, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, petethemole said: It does appear to be, in terms of copies for sale. I got one for about £7 on eBay a couple of years ago... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted June 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 14, 2021 There are currently only two copies that I can find online. One is that one, also available through Amazon, Worldofbooks own site and Abebooks (at really silly money). There is one other (new) on Amazon Marketplace at 71.99. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted June 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 14, 2021 I looked up a book for another thread and the first one to show had an asking price of £129:50. There was also a paperback version at £2:99. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Goodness me. I might have to look at my bookshelves in a different light. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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