Caley Jim Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Kylestrome said: I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned this man yet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Crapper Apparently his venerable company is still in business: https://www.thomas-crapper.com/toilets-basins/ Now there's a man who was flushed with success! Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Morgan Posted September 4, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 4, 2020 It appears the wash hand basins are in a seperate cubicle, which seems odd today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post CF MRC Posted September 6, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) Richard and I spent a productive day trying out the alignment of the York Road plan against the relevant baseboard and station building. This has been almost completely re-made internally towards the back to ensure that the lift shafts and lobbies are in exactly the correct position to line up with the plan at platform level. The platform line to Finsbury Park will be hidden under the layout, but the up line and crossover to the north of the station will be fully visible. The plan may not be 100% accurate in that area, but we now have the full prototype plan showing tunnel sizes etc, so that it can be made correctly. It is almost certain that the station building will be removable, as there will be more of the underground structures modelled - the gents loo will therefore be made - it is no wider than the line of the platform track. The ‘area’ in the far left corner won’t be represented. The television screen will probably be covered over, when the underground section is on display. Richard has mocked up the tube tunnel rings as a 3D print, which will save a vast amount of work and be very robust. The distance between rings is currently 30” - it should be 18-23”, but that will be modified in production. The different diameters for the crossing tunnel civil engineering can also be made as required. The tunnel bore is generous on size, but that will be important for dynamic tolerances and it could also allow an N gauge tube train to pass, should one ever be manufactured. The train in the image is sitting on a piece of fully sleepered track, but the production track will be more nearly flush ballasted and the cement infill in the lower part of the rings will also be included in the 3D print. I think it is fair to say that without the availability of CAD and modern manufacturing techniques, this line would be very much harder to make! It is also quite gratifying to bring all the modern techniques to bear on a 35 year old layout. Tim Edited September 7, 2020 by CF MRC 15 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithlord75 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I'd better get on with the drawings then! 3 hours ago, CF MRC said: It is almost certain that the station building will be removable, as there will be more of the underground structures modelled - the gents loo will therefore be made - it is no wider than the line of the platform track. ...I think it is fair to say that without the availability of CAD and modern manufacturing techniques, this line would be very much harder to make! It is also quite gratifying to bring all the modern techniques to bear on a 35 year old layout. Tim 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithlord75 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 05/09/2020 at 00:13, CF MRC said: I have just received a better scan of the main station plan. The details of the toilets and washrooms are much clearer. The washbasins appear to be round, which makes life easier, and I can now see where the ladies wash room is located. What a carry-on this has become... Tim Hi Tim, Is there a scale with this? It will be handy to know any dimensions we can for the urinals - so far all I have is 2.5 wall tiles but I don't know how long the tiles are! I should have a rough drawing done by 2200 local (presently 2120) and I can adapt once known dimensions are obtained. Currently drawing in inches at full size, which can then be scaled. Cheers Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithlord75 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 I have yet to sort the tread area. It looks to me like we would be peering over a gentleman's shoulder - he'd have his back to us. Is that correct? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CF MRC Posted September 7, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) That’s looking very good Kevin. Tiles are 9”x3”. The length available on the plan is 6’. We will indeed look over a gentleman’s shoulder. In the urinal we have on Market Road, the occupant is in mid-stream - represented by a strand of fibre glass. Thanks Tim Edited September 7, 2020 by CF MRC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted September 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2020 37 minutes ago, CF MRC said: the occupant is in mid-stream - represented by a strand of fibre glass. Blimey that wouln't half itch.... 1 1 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post CF MRC Posted September 7, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2020 With a bit of help I have nearly completed the newsagent - tobacconist at York Road tube station. However, someone would rather have had me throwing a ball for him. The shop will be finished after a bit of weathering and a name board - but who? Tim 15 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithlord75 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 6 hours ago, CF MRC said: That’s looking very good Kevin. Tiles are 9”x3”. The length available on the plan is 6’. We will indeed look over a gentleman’s shoulder. In the urinal we have on Market Road, the occupant is in mid-stream - represented by a strand of fibre glass. Thanks Tim Good guess by me then - the 3 stalls come out to 6' on the principle that 2' seems to be standard. I've had another look at the pictures and think the inside is probably curved rather than square. This would gel with the plan having curved stalls so I'll have a revisit of it tonight. Hopefully an over scale test print this evening too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CF MRC Posted September 7, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2020 Looking at the photo and your modelling Kevin, it appears that the tall triangular upstanding at the front should be symmetrical both sides of the partitions. Of course, it may be the viewing angle of your rendition. It’s quite crazy really, when you consider how small all this is! In the meantime, I have made the lettering correctly 3D on the station building. Tim 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithlord75 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 hours ago, CF MRC said: Looking at the photo and your modelling Kevin, it appears that the tall triangular upstanding at the front should be symmetrical both sides of the partitions. Of course, it may be the viewing angle of your rendition. It’s quite crazy really, when you consider how small all this is! I agree. Missed it! Fortunately that is an easy fix. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted September 8, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2020 9 hours ago, CF MRC said: With a bit of help I have nearly completed the newsagent - tobacconist at York Road tube station. However, someone would rather have had me throwing a ball for him. The shop will be finished after a bit of weathering and a name board - but who? Tim If you can find the Kelly's Guide for the year that the model is set. One easy way of doing that is the reverse side of the Godfrey Collection repoduction OS maps. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin1985 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 21 minutes ago, Joseph_Pestell said: If you can find the Kelly's Guide for the year that the model is set. One easy way of doing that is the reverse side of the Godfrey Collection repoduction OS maps. The University of Leicester Library has the vast majority of them available freely online, up to the 1910s. http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/digital/collection/p16445coll4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CF MRC Posted September 8, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 8, 2020 It is a tradition that shop names are of Club members / people who have contributed to the layout. There are two strong candidates for the tobacconist. Tim 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithlord75 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 State of play: Test print forth coming. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted September 8, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, CF MRC said: It is a tradition that shop names are of Club members / people who have contributed to the layout. There are two strong candidates for the tobacconist. Tim Looking superb Tim. Denys, with his trademark pipe would have been perfect for the tobacconist. Jerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CF MRC Posted September 8, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) He already runs a butcher’s shop up the Cally, Jerry. He took a slightly dim view of taking on a butcher’s shop. Tim Edited September 8, 2020 by CF MRC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcm@gwr Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, CF MRC said: He already runs a butcher’s shop up the Cally, Jerry. He took a slightly dim view of taking on a butcher’s shop. Tim Shops changed hands in the real world, so why not on CF? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted September 8, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2020 13 hours ago, CF MRC said: With a bit of help I have nearly completed the newsagent - tobacconist at York Road tube station. However, someone would rather have had me throwing a ball for him. The shop will be finished after a bit of weathering and a name board - but who? Tim Stunning modelling as usual. One of my wife and my all time favourite layouts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithlord75 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Gentlemen, please form an orderly queue! 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CF MRC Posted September 8, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 hours ago, jcm@gwr said: Shops changed hands in the real world, so why not on CF? CF has developed its own history and archaeology, we are only it’s custodians and certainly wouldn’t be allowed to change shop names. Tim 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcm@gwr Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 4 hours ago, CF MRC said: CF has developed its own history and archaeology, we are only it’s custodians and certainly wouldn’t be allowed to change shop names. Tim I appreciate what you are saying, and I'm not suggesting getting rid of any names, just maybe if someone seems more appropriate as a newsagent, than a butcher, (for example) then swop them, but I don't want to rock the boat. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) Do any of the 2MM Mag's previous editors have a business? Stewart Hine, Geoff Balfour,Mick Simpson to name but three? One of them would seem appropriate for a newsagent. Jim Edited September 8, 2020 by Caley Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 C.J.Freezer, or else whoever was Bulletin editor when Copenhagen Fields first burst into skeletal bloom. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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