RMweb Premium CF MRC Posted October 10, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2019 Resting on the shovel by this stage of the journey, David. Downhill to KX. Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denbridge Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Kylestrome said: I bet the loco crew were sweating. There isn't a scrap of coal left in the tender! Lucky its near journeys end! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Let's just hope they have enough water in the tank to keep the firebox covered! Jim 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted October 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Caley Jim said: Let's just hope they have enough water in the tank to keep the firebox covered! Jim It's no good in the tank, it needs to be in the boiler. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Siberian Snooper said: It's no good in the tank, it needs to be in the boiler. Ah, but if there is none in the tank, then they can't keep the boiler topped up! On one of the last runs in the races to Aberdeen the CR crew had been frugal with the water between Carlisle and Stirling and decided not to make the water stop at Stirling in order to save time. When they arrived at Perth, where there was a loco change, they pulled forward off the main line, dropped the fire and then called for a pilot to take them to the shed. The tender was dry and the boiler dangerously low, but they had saved some 10-15 minutes by not making the stop. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted October 11, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2019 8 hours ago, Caley Jim said: Ah, but if there is none in the tank, then they can't keep the boiler topped up! On one of the last runs in the races to Aberdeen the CR crew had been frugal with the water between Carlisle and Stirling and decided not to make the water stop at Stirling in order to save time. When they arrived at Perth, where there was a loco change, they pulled forward off the main line, dropped the fire and then called for a pilot to take them to the shed. The tender was dry and the boiler dangerously low, but they had saved some 10-15 minutes by not making the stop. Jim Doesn't the ECML have troughs? I thought there was one near Stevenage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold A Murphy Posted October 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2019 Pre-trough? Alastair M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post grahame Posted October 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2019 Here's a couple of snaps of CF I took at Fareham last weekend. It's tricky to photograph as the lighting is not particularly bright, seeming to replicate an overcast day especially with the heavy cloudy backscene. Consequently, and with only taking along a small compact snap gun camera and no tripod, the pics are rather poor as I had to go up to ISO/ASA 1600 just to get the shutter speed up to still a rather risky for handholding, 1/40th at f8. 30 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted October 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2019 I was lucky enough to be able to walk the railway from Holloway through Copenhagen Tunnel and the length of Belle Isle yesterday (on an official basis) and it is remarkable not only how much has changed, but how messy and untidy the whole section is now. If only we could go back to the days documented by the layout! Staggering how much of the original infrastructure still remains, specially on the Eastern side of the cutting. Rich 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacathedrale Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Hi @CF MRC, Just wondering if you've seen this photo before? From an article on SECR/GNR traffic in 1906, in the Trains Annual 1965: 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CF MRC Posted December 31, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2019 Yes, Will. Would make a pretty train going through the layout wouldn’t it? Very much the lower end of our time period - but that hasn’t stopped us in the past. Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I suspect that getting a model of one of those Q tanks to work properly might prove a bigger problem than building its train. Even in 4mm scale getting one of them to balance properly is a nightmare, for some reason they are much worse than their H class successors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CF MRC Posted December 31, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, bécasse said: I suspect that getting a model of one of those Q tanks to work properly might prove a bigger problem than building its train. Even in 4mm scale getting one of them to balance properly is a nightmare, for some reason they are much worse than their H class successors. No worse than a Kirtley well tank, David. Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacathedrale Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Any reason why the Q's are harder, other than being smaller? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 8 hours ago, Lacathedrale said: Hi @CF MRC, Just wondering if you've seen this photo before? From an article on SECR/GNR traffic in 1906, in the Trains Annual 1965: Also reproduced in Which was by far my best Christmas present! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 On 31/12/2019 at 19:59, Lacathedrale said: Any reason why the Q's are harder, other than being smaller? As I am sure you are aware, all 0-4-4T locos are difficult to balance in such a way that sufficient weight is carried by the four driving wheels to provide adequate traction, and the smaller the scale the worse that problem is. The problem is also worsened as the boiler diameter gets smaller and the tanks start further back relative to the position of the rear driving wheel. The SECR Q (and, as Tim has reminded us, the MR Kirtley's) are particularly awkward in this respect. I seem to recollect that Tim once waived his magic wand over an MR Kirtley and came up with a 2FS model which not only worked but worked well, so a Q should be practical but I seem to recollect a 4mm modeller, as competent in that scale as Tim is in 2FS, giving up on a fine scratch-built Q because of insoluble balance problems, and the problem should have been a lot easier to solve in 4mm scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post queensquare Posted January 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2020 I think you are making a mountain out of a mole hill. The trick is to have the motor at the rear so that the boiler can be filled with something heavy, further aided by lightly springing the bogie. So long as the motor is below cab level it can't be seen. 20 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted January 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 1, 2020 A heavy spacer where the cyclinder block would be can be a help as well as packing the smokebox and front of the boiler with weight. Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CF MRC Posted January 2, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) The Kirtley WT solved the weight problem by mounting the Portescap 1212 motor on the last wheels of the bogie and a universal Joint to the worm. The front wheels of the bogie went along for the ride. It was written up in a very very early MRJ. No longer really a problem with small diameter coreless motors available. They are relatively lightweight, which also accounts for the poor load hauling capacities of Farish locos with motors in the boiler. Tim Edited January 2, 2020 by CF MRC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post CF MRC Posted January 29, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2020 Belle Isle Up Home gantry, probably one of the most prominent on our model. photo: Pro rail Model under way. Tim 17 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CF MRC Posted February 6, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 6, 2020 I wasn’t originally going to make the signal work, but it seemed a shame not to. https://youtu.be/2DIW4LYRZdg The operating mechanism should prevent any interference between the arm movements. Tim 6 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post CF MRC Posted February 13, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) The BI Up Home gantry is now pretty well complete, apart from bedding in and connecting up the mechanisms. The secret of making the linkages work was to chemically black the cranks so that they could not be soldered up. Another useful dodge was to make the dolls out of square brass tube: that way they didn’t act as a massive heat sink when soldering nearby. The railing stanchions were trimmed to length in situ using a bit of brass tube as a cutting guide for the Xuron cutters. All the rails and wires were made from phosphor bronze wire, as it has more resilience than brass or nickel silver. The finials were filed up from a Peco track pin and buried down the hollow post, with a separate piece of syringe needle fettled into shape for the round bit. All of these bits were epoxied into place. The final bedding in will have some fixings modelled on the retaining wall and a plastic ladder glued into place: these are more robust than etched ladders. The video shows the signals working by hand on the baseboard. It may be a little while before we connect up actuator servos. These will be operated by the passing trains. Tim Edited February 13, 2020 by CF MRC 12 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D869 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Nice job on the signal Tim. One of ours has been clobbered a couple of times so far and the etched ladder is usually the thing that is most difficult to put right again. I'm not sure that plastic ladders would work for us because I usually send the current feed for the lamps up the ladder but I'd still be very interested to know more about your plastic laddering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 On 13/02/2020 at 16:32, CF MRC said: The BI Up Home gantry is now pretty well complete, apart from bedding in and connecting up the mechanisms. You now need a signal box from which it can be operated! Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post CF MRC Posted February 15, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted February 15, 2020 Already got the box for this gantry, Jim. Our signal box gnome has the bits for Goods & Mineral Junction down in Cornwall. He has tidied up the mock-up ready for a photo session on Friday for an MRJ article. I have also just finished off bedding in Belle Isle Down box, also recently made by Matthew. Point rodding is quick and dirty, but robust for CF. The gantry is now in place. The main ladder is a nylon moulding, I think from Ratio. When complete, there will be six signal boxes on CF. Tim 13 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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