Caley Jim Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Basically the 'up' direction is heading towards London and the 'down' heading away from London. HTH Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Higgs Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Basically the 'up' direction is heading towards London and the 'down' heading away from London. HTH Jim And that works how on Glasgow - Edinburgh? Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nick_bastable Posted October 6, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 6, 2018 And that works how on Glasgow - Edinburgh? Chris given the Earth is a sphere is Scotland not down hill ? Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branwell Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 given the Earth is a sphere is Scotland not down hill ? Nick Not according to Mr. Perks - "It's all uphill to Scotland" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 But what about trains between Glasgow and Edinburgh or viseserversa which is the up and which is the down? I think that was the question he was trying to ask. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nick_bastable Posted October 6, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 6, 2018 But what about trains between Glasgow and Edinburgh or viseserversa which is the up and which is the down? I think that was the question he was trying to ask. is that not over the hill ? Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kylestrome Posted October 6, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 6, 2018 (edited) And that works how on Glasgow - Edinburgh? Chris Chris, According to this diagram: https://signalbox.org/diagrams.php?id=1177 The up direction is towards Edinburgh and the down direction is towards Glasgow. David Edited October 6, 2018 by Kylestrome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 According to this diagram: https://signalbox.org/diagrams.php?id=1177 The up direction is towards Edinburgh and the down direction is towards Glasgow. But note that on the Branch, which is the ex CR line from Carstairs (and therefore London) it's the other way round!! Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Morgan Posted October 6, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 6, 2018 There was a station in the westcountry where GWR and SR Up trains left the station in opposite directions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted October 6, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 6, 2018 Well whatever the Scots want to agree about the bit between Edingburgh and Glasgow any train heading north on Copenhagen Fields would be a Down train and one heading south would be an up train. It may sound a bit odd considering we refer to 'Up North'. It works better from Paddington or Waterloo when in common parlance we talk of going down to the West Country and going up to London. Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Higgs Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) I am also guessing that the mileposts also have a bearing. If they are going up in value you are travelling in the down direction. In my home town of Cheltenham on the MR Line the mileposts are in miles from Derby, so up is towards Birmingham and down towards Gloucester/Bristol. Which is the opposite for the old GWR line where travelling to Gloucester and on to Stroud/Swindon is up. Edited October 7, 2018 by Chris Higgs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Higgs Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Well whatever the Scots want to agree about the bit between Edingburgh and Glasgow any train heading north on Copenhagen Fields would be a Down train and one heading south would be an up train. It may sound a bit odd considering we refer to 'Up North'. It works better from Paddington or Waterloo when in common parlance we talk of going down to the West Country and going up to London. Don In my 'Alma Mater' up is always towards Oxford. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CF MRC Posted October 7, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 7, 2018 What always amazes me is how many people get confused with North and South on CF, but then I suppose it’s not surprising that not everyone has an intimate knowledge of the ECML, just north of KX! Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 What always amazes me is how many people get confused with North and South on CF, but then I suppose it’s not surprising that not everyone has an intimate knowledge of the ECML, just north of KX! Perhaps the layout should have been built mirror image, that really would have caused confusion among the more learned! I do actually know of one past layout, admittedly not 2FS, that, although it was generally a scale model of a prototype, was built mirror image because it looked better - and remarkably few people spotted it; its exhibition appearances included IMREX. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Kirk Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Problem with building a mirror image would be that a mirror image trackplan would need trains to operate wrong line ie drive on the right otherwise the track arrangements would not work which comes back to up and down lines again. I seem to remember being told that in early pre grouping days up meant towards the headquarters of the Railway Company, down being away from. Grouping and Nationalisation concentrated it all on London. best wishes, Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2mm Andy Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 I am also guessing that the mileposts also have a bearing. If they are going up in value you are travelling in the down direction. In my home town of Cheltenham on the MR Line the mileposts are in miles from Derby, so up is towards Birmingham and down towards Gloucester/Bristol. Which is the opposite for the old GWR line where travelling to Gloucester and on to Stroud/Swindon is up. Not always. There are certainly lines within what is now the London North Eastern/East Midlands route of Network Rail where the Up direction is towards high mileage. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CF MRC Posted October 21, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) Not a very exciting picture this one, but shows a bit of a re-wire at the northend of CF: we sustained plug damage at our last show. However, it does show our baseboard construction rather well, especially the very long joining bolts. Our efforts (all due to Mike Randall actually) in this department have paid off, as the joints and baseboards are still as good today as when they were made 34 years ago. CF will be at Wakefield in November 16-18th. Our new MRC S7 layout, ‘Bow Junction’ uses an identical baseboard construction, but slightly different joiners. Tim Edited October 21, 2018 by CF MRC 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted October 21, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2018 There was a station in the westcountry where GWR and SR Up trains left the station in opposite directions. I'm a bit late to the party with this one but Sandy on the GN main line was exactly the same. It was 'Up' to London on the GN, and the same direction on the LNWR was 'Down' to Cambridge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Morgan Posted October 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2018 I usually fit a spare socket to the baseboard to park the plug end of the cable in to for transit, so it does not dangle and get damaged. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBS Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Not a very exciting picture this one, but shows a bit of a re-wire at the northend of CF: we sustained plug damage at our last show. However, it does show our baseboard construction rather well, especially the very long joining bolts. Our efforts (all due to Mike Randall actually) in this department have paid off, as the joints and baseboards are still as good today as when they were made 34 years ago. CF will be at Wakefield in November 16-18th. Ah, yes, I remember it well. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
east barnet andy Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Afternoon all . I read somewhere on RMweb that CF is starring (! ) at Wakefield in the next week or so. I've tried , and failed , to persuade my minders/carers/family to go - we live just a mile or five to the northof Kings Cross, so I don't blame them really . . . so if you , Tim , and the Crew get a spare few minutes when you are there , can you please take some snaps/videos , so that the disciples , like me , who can only gaze in wonderment at the 2mm fs creations , can see the progress being made ? thanks awfully , in advance , Andy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Afternoon all . I read somewhere on RMweb that CF is starring (! ) at Wakefield in the next week or so. I've tried , and failed , to persuade my minders/carers/family to go - we live just a mile or five to the northof Kings Cross, so I don't blame them really . . .soif you , Tim , and the Crew get a spare few minutes when you are there , can you please take some snaps/videos , so that the disciples , like me , who can only gaze in wonderment at the 2mm fs creations , can seethe progress being made ?thanks awfully , in advance ,Andy. LNER weekend tickets are very reasonable and we do have visitors that come up from London, 2 hours to Wakefield 15 mins walk or 5 mins bus ride away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CF MRC Posted November 5, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 5, 2018 Telegraph poles are often a bit of a Cinderella subject on model railways. On top of Gasworks Tunnel there was the mother and father of a telegraph pole that probably terminated some of the wires before sending them down through the tunnels. In fact the base of it still in-situ. I played around with this and other images to try and work out what the pole consisted of. We are very fortunate that Bob Jones made some rather good telegraph cross arms to our design many years ago and these can be adapted quite well to a number of configurations. The pole was made from brass rod turned to a long taper, suitable length cross arms were added, soldered on at 90 degrees to each other, as well as bits of brass for the wiring conduits and other bits. The pole is firmly located in the ground of the tunnel top (it may remain a removable item), whilst the railed fence leading up to it was made from square brass section and rod, again well fixed into the ground. There was very little painting, as the pieces were chemically blacked and then dry brush weathered. Cecily thinks that a mascara brush would have been just as good. Maybe she has a point. Tim 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted November 6, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2018 Nice work Tim. Do not know about the railways but GPO pole arms were either four way or eight way. I doubt you could reach if they were any wider than eight way. I am old enough to have run open copper wires on a route. Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
east barnet andy Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) Afternoon Tim. just wondering . . . I think you took CF into the frozen north , this weekend; how was it received? did it behave itself? any snaps ? ( I do like to see what you chaps have been doing since the last outing ! ) regards to all Andy. Edited November 20, 2018 by east barnet andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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