Bath Queen Square

[queensquare]

20 minutes ago, mullie said:

Which Trespa panels did you order as their seems to be a choice of three?

 

Chassis looks superb.

 

Many thanks

 

Martyn

 

Seems mad but I cant remember. When I went on the sight a week or so ago I don't remember being given three choices so I think I just hit samples and external cladding. Ive just had another look now and the lab worktop material looks good ...... think I will get my daughter to order some samples.

 

Jerry

[queensquare]

36 minutes ago, Caley Jim said:

I always find it much easier to add as much as possible while the underframe is in the flat, with the exception of footboards. Tried that once - never again! Folding down the solebars without distorting the footboards was well nigh impossible! 

 

What is the wheelbase and how tight a curve will it go round, being rigid with presumably no sideplay in the centre axle? 

 

Jim 

 

I'd normally agree Jim re. the footboards - certainly for things like coach bogies and underframes - but in this case everything is pretty solid once soldered and I didn't encounter any problems.

 

The wheelbase is 7' + 7' and it goes round all my curves ok which, in places on TM and in the colliery are below my normal 2' minimum.

My rake of SDJR six wheelers are also rigid and have no problems on my mainline curves - though not sure how they would fare in the colliery. True to form, they have been languishing unpainted for about 18 months now!

 

Jerry

 

 

 

[NHY 581]

3 hours ago, queensquare said:

A couple of days ago I was sent an email reminding me that I had promised to post some basic instructions regarding the SDJR 6 wheel brake van bits I had produced. Its been two years now and as I'm building another rake of POs it seemed about time I got my finger out so last night I settled down to put another one together - I'm doing eight for myself. This may seem rather a lot but as the picture below, taken at Masbury in 1937 shows, many S&D freights had two or even three in the consist, not just for extra braking capacity but also as mail or road vans.

 

 

 

 

 

Lovely photo, Jerry. 

 

I have two of the D&S kits to build in 4mm.........one day........

 

 

Rob. 

[03060]

11 minutes ago, NHY 581 said:

 

 

Lovely photo, Jerry. 

 

I have two of the D&S kits to build in 4mm.........one day........

 

 

Rob. 

 

Hauling wrongline or at the rear of a Northbound train ?

[queensquare]

4 minutes ago, 03060 said:

 

Hauling wrongline or at the rear of a Northbound train ?

 

I suspect banking but could well be wrong line.

 

Jerry

[NHY 581]

Methinks neither. 

 

However, certainly one will be in 1950s condition ( whatever that may be! ) and suitably lettered to run between Eweington Junction  and Bleat Wharf............. 

 

Rob 

[queensquare]

11 minutes ago, NHY 581 said:

Methinks neither. 

 

However, certainly one will be in 1950s condition ( whatever that may be! ) and suitably lettered to run between Eweington Junction  and Bleat Wharf............. 

 

Rob 

 

Here you go Rob, Wells 1953. The L and S have been painted out on the builders plate leaving just the M, other than that I suspect its in late LMS livery under a layer of grot.

 

Jerry

 

[NHY 581]

48 minutes ago, queensquare said:

 

Here you go Rob, Wells 1953. The L and S have been painted out on the builders plate leaving just the M, other than that I suspect its in late LMS livery under a layer of grot.

 

Jerry

 

 

Thanks Jerry,

 

That's probably the best photo I've seen of these. They seem to have avoided the camera quite successfully. 

 

Rob.  

[Compound2632]

4 hours ago, queensquare said:

 

Here you go Rob, Wells 1953. The L and S have been painted out on the builders plate leaving just the M, other than that I suspect its in late LMS livery under a layer of grot.

 

Jerry

 

 

The numberplate, I suppose, dates from the division of the remaining S&DJR stock between the parent companies in 1930. Evidently they continued in their local role. Comparing this photo with the well-known official view of No. 6 in S&DJR days - possibly as built - in addition to the well-known modification of the guard's lookouts, I note a difference in the solebar. On No. 6, the row of bolts along the top sits on a prominent horizontal piece, possibly one side of a L-shaped flange, the top side of which supports the body. This is absent in the photo avove; additionally the body is supported on blocks rather than directly on the flange. Is this a sign of a re-built underframe, or were different vans differently constructed in the first place?

 

This van also has separate rainstrips rather than one continuous one. The pair in the photo with 13809 also have continuous rainstrips.

[dseagull]

Coming along very nicely. As a complete newcomer to 2mm and indeed etched kit building, I thought Nick's videos were superb and very useful! Thanks for the tip re the Trespa samples, got some on order.

[queensquare]

A productive evenings modelling saw the last of the eight undeframes built. My reward was a whiskey, couple of squares of dark chocolate and the return of MOTD.

 

Jerry

 

[nick_bastable]

Very productive and coming along nicely best I managed in betwix binging freeview Football was adding a few chairs to the recently ripped up and revised Bohemia 

 

Nick B 

[queensquare]

23 minutes ago, nick_bastable said:

Very productive and coming along nicely best I managed in betwix binging freeview Football was adding a few chairs to the recently ripped up and revised Bohemia 

 

Nick B 

 

It looks impressive all lined up Nick but it's taken a couple of years chipping away at the pile   -  it only takes a couple of hours to put a chassis together :-))

 

Jerry

[Winchat]

That's what I like to see Jerry, a good well used cutting mat.  None of this pristine stuff you see in other photographs and videos.

 

Good work.

 

Kind regards

 

Geoff

[queensquare]

For some strange reason Kim doesn't like listening to the football on the radio so, with the season under way again, I'm back down the shed in the evenings - Man U, Brighton tonight.

Whilst progress on the marathon wagon build has slowed I've been pottering and getting odd jobs done. Last night I coaled and fitted couplings to a couple of locos that would, in reality, never have come anywhere near Bath - the L&Y beast and, by contrast, the very pretty little SECR C.

 

The Beast is part of my slowly growing collection of pre-group eight-coupled locos which I have for no better reason than I like them. Its built from the excellent Nigel Hunt kit and I'm pleased to report that she walked away with the 25 wagon and brake test train on Bath bank. She runs very well but was initially a bit 'growly' but I filled the acres of empty space in the barn of a tender which was acting as a sound box which has quietened her down considerably.

 

My only excuse for the C is that my Mum was born in Chatham so Ive always had a soft spot for the SECR. Compared with the Beast she is a real feather weight but copes with the Steve Sykes memorial train of 16 scratchbuilt plasticard wagons easily enough.  Other than being finescaled (by Keith Armes), all that's been done is the addition of a Kent Coast line disc headcode and etched number plates from 247 developments and some real coal in the tender. 

 

Jerry

 

 

 

 

[nick_bastable]

1 minute ago, queensquare said:

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My only excuse for the C is that my Mum was born in Chatham so Ive always had a soft spot for the SECR. Compared with the Beast she is a real feather weight but copes with the Steve Sykes memorial train of 16 scratchbuilt plasticard wagons easily enough.  Other than being finescaled (by Keith Armes), all that's been done is the addition of a Kent Coast line disc headcode and etched number plates from 247 developments and some real coal in the tender. 

 

Jerry

 

 

 

what no sound in the C  assuming DCC ?  

Nick B 

 

[2mmKiwi]

Two very nice atmospheric photos Jerry.   I especially like the L&Y 0-8-0 and the make up of the goods train which is of a good length and looks suitably arranged to my eyes at least 

[bgman]

3-0 and counting !!!!! Wahoo!!! 

 

[Compound2632]

52 minutes ago, queensquare said:

the L&Y beast

 

My curiosity was piqued by the late MR / early LMS style brake van behind the beast. On digging out Garner's Registers, I find Nos. 23-25 to LMS D1659 dating from 1925. I hadn't been aware of these before, so you have contributed to my further education once again. Were these Highbridge-built, or by one of the LMS works - probably Derby?

[queensquare]

 

1 hour ago, 2mmKiwi said:

Two very nice atmospheric photos Jerry.   I especially like the L&Y 0-8-0 and the make up of the goods train which is of a good length and looks suitably arranged to my eyes at least 

 

Thanks Steve, the train is probably ten or so wagons short but I think a 25 wagon freight is a nice size visually and its all my fiddle yard will take - I could have made the sector plate bigger but I wanted that long scenic run so something had to give! As is well known I can be a bit cavalier with precise details of individual wagons but in 2mm I think capturing the look of the huge variety that could be seen is more important, particularly in my favoured 1920s period with the common user agreement in place.

 

33 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

My curiosity was piqued by the late MR / early LMS style brake van behind the beast. On digging out Garner's Registers, I find Nos. 23-25 to LMS D1659 dating from 1925. I hadn't been aware of these before, so you have contributed to my further education once again. Were these Highbridge-built, or by one of the LMS works - probably Derby?

 

They were Derby built and, according to Mike King's Southern Wagons pictorial they returned to the LMS in 1930.

 

Jerry

[queensquare]

53 minutes ago, bgman said:

3-0 and counting !!!!! Wahoo!!! 

 

 

Bruno....!!!!

[Nig H]

On 30/06/2020 at 20:39, queensquare said:

 

The Beast is part of my slowly growing collection of pre-group eight-coupled locos which I have for no better reason than I like them. Its built from the excellent Nigel Hunt kit and I'm pleased to report that she walked away with the 25 wagon and brake test train on Bath bank. She runs very well but was initially a bit 'growly' but I filled the acres of empty space in the barn of a tender which was acting as a sound box which has quietened her down considerably.

 

Jerry

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Jerry,

 

Thanks for your comments about the 0-8-0. You've made a great job of it. As loco kits go I think it's pretty straightforward, the only awkward bit being the tender axleboxes/ springs. This is the only kit I've produced that only needed one test etch before finalising the production version, due to the simplicity of the prototype rather than my artwork design skills. Shame I've now retired from kit production just as I was starting to get the hang of it.

 

Nigel Hunt

[queensquare]

2 hours ago, Nig H said:

Hi Jerry,

 

Thanks for your comments about the 0-8-0. You've made a great job of it. As loco kits go I think it's pretty straightforward, the only awkward bit being the tender axleboxes/ springs. This is the only kit I've produced that only needed one test etch before finalising the production version, due to the simplicity of the prototype rather than my artwork design skills. Shame I've now retired from kit production just as I was starting to get the hang of it.

 

Nigel Hunt

 

Thanks Nigel. It is a really ugly loco, the sort that only its mother could love but I really like them. It was my Monday night project at club for a big chunk of last year and I had lots of good natured comments from (mainly GWR enthusiasts) about its lack of good looks!

As you say it is a pretty straightforward loco to build. The tender axle boxes defeated me. I got five pretty good and consistent then lost a couple of the tiny parts that pinged off to the carpet gods and, in the end, I got Steve 'Atso' to kindly print me a set. The other point worth noting is that with the eight wheeled tender, you need to ensure that the tender wheels all have equal sideplay to ensure it will go round 24" curves ok.

It is a real shame you have retired from designing kits as yours always go together well. Still, on the upside you might get that layout built now!

 

Jerry

[65179]

6 hours ago, Nig H said:

Shame I've now retired from kit production just as I was starting to get the hang of it.

 

That is a pity Nigel. I thought you doing the etch and Nick doing the instructions/video was the Dream Team ;-)  Many thanks for all the kits you've given us the pleasure of anyway!

 

Simon

[Sithlord75]

I thought I should de-lurk to post this:

 

 

Needs a little bit of work still - couplings, glazing, some hand rails and a touch up of the paint on the ducket.  Chassis by Jones out of Clifford, body by moi on my Anycubic Photon (as I didn't like the way the wood bodies I got turned out - I blame the builder!!).

 

The drawing file has been altered for the revised duckets - should have same at the ZAG tomorrow.

 

Cheers

Kevin of Oz