RMweb Gold Donw Posted September 26, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 26, 2012 Competition or not I for one would like you to go on and get this completed. I personally find that once projects go 'cold' it is difficult to get started again and some never do. This is an amazing piece of modelling. Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted September 26, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 26, 2012 Competition or not I for one would like you to go on and get this completed. I personally find that once projects go 'cold' it is difficult to get started again and some never do. This is an amazing piece of modelling. Don Don't worry Don, this will be finished, just not by Oct 1 Jerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonmarshall Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 This is really stunning work. Please keep the photos coming. I know very little about the Midland/S&D but the more I read the more I want to know. Can you tell me if there are any books or websites you particularly recommend? I am fascinated by what sort of locos and rolling stock you would have seen at Bath in the 1925-30 period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted January 23, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2013 This is really stunning work. Please keep the photos coming. I know very little about the Midland/S&D but the more I read the more I want to know. Can you tell me if there are any books or websites you particularly recommend? I am fascinated by what sort of locos and rolling stock you would have seen at Bath in the 1925-30 period. There are numerous books on the S&D, most of which focus on the post WW2 period when the variety of locos to be seen was probably at its height. A quick google search would give you a list. In my view the best introduction to the earlier period are Peter Smiths' memoirs of his time on the footplate, 'Mendips Engineman' and 'Footplate over the Mendips'. The second is my particular favourite and it's what fired my enthusiasm for the period covering, as it does, the career of Peter Smiths' mate and mentor Donald Beale who started on the S&D at Bath in the years following the First War, retiring, with the closure of the line in 1966. Donald Beale's memoirs were also serialised in the S&D Trust Bulletin and were subsequently published as one of the Trusts Blue Books although the exact title escapes me now. I love these books having first read them in the early 1980's and never tire of reading of the exploits of young cleaners Donald Beale, Johnny Walker et el in and around Bath shed in the 1920's. Jerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post queensquare Posted January 23, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2013 One of the things which quickly became clear to me when I resumed working on my dream layout a couple of years ago was that, whilst I would love to do everything myself, I had neither the time or the ability to do it all. I count myself as being extremely lucky to have a number of friends in the hobby who have offered/volunteered, been cajoled/bullied/bribed into doing bits and here I offer three contributions to the project which have arrived in the last few months. In no particular order they are; This stunning MR 800 class 2-4-0 was built by John Greenwood for me in exchange for work on his Wadebridge layout. I am quite happy to build my own locos but am even more happy to pass the more challenging prototypes over to John who, in my opinion, is one of the best. This little beauty is nothing if not challenging with that sweeping Kirtley footplate, double frames and all but zero clearances around the splashers. She will be finished as number 24, a Saltley engine in the early 20's, and rostered as pilot engine on the 'Manchester Diner', (Pines after 1927). A friend, having made some very complimentary remarks about progress, noted that at the current rate he would be decidedly senior before the layout was up and running. I, knowing my friend to be a master of complex track formations, dropped a huge hint that if he knew anyone that enjoyed the challenges of a typical Midland formation would he let me know. The bait was duly taken and the resultant piece of trackwork arrived from the land of ZOB. It really is a fantastic piece of work and moves the day when trains get to run a whole lot closer. For those who know the layout at Bath this is the main crossing in the station approach from the three way at the entrance to the Midland yard, to the three way at the shed throat via two single and one double slip across the main running lines. I built the main station building over twenty years ago but it has never had a proper entrance to do it justice. I did cobble together a Porte Cocher from plasticard but it was never really satisfactory and eventualy warped and collapsed. What it needed was somebody to etch the very delicate and intricate bits for me. I will happily put most things together but computer design is way beyond my meagre techy abilities. Luckily, Missy Julia volunteered to draw up the bits for me and I am thrilled with the results. As expected the bits folded up and fitted perfectly and the picture below shows the results. The postcard view shows the prototype around 1900 Very many thanks to all three contributors to the cause, I count myself extremely lucky to have such tallented modellers within my circle of friends. I have returned to the 'Midland Diner' rake which I started a couple of years ago and I will report on progress in a later post. What I'm sure is becoming clear (to paraphrase the great Eric Morecombe) is that whilst most of the models I start get finished, its not necessarily in the order they were started! Jerry 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
devondynosoar118 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Wow, to all of it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calnefoxile Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Jerry, I think another display at one of the Gas Cupboard soirees is required. Cheers Neal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted January 23, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2013 Superb modelling Jerry. I particularly like the 2-4-0. I will also be interested to see what you have added to Wadebridge. Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D869 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 This stunning MR 800 class 2-4-0 was built by John Greenwood for me in exchange for work on his Wadebridge layout. Should be easy for John. It's just a big Beattie well tank with a tender. I just wonder what he will do with all that extra space inside. Great modelling. That ladder of slips is exactly why St Ruth is not Penzance BTW. Regards, Andy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Love the trackwork, Is is plastic or pcb?, I can't quite make out if there are the chairs from the photo Rgds, Stuart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted January 23, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2013 Wonderful work Jerry, (and team!) All the best, Dave.T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted January 23, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2013 Thanks all but other than being head of persuasion I can't take credit for any of it. Don, I'm going to see John at the end of Feb so will take my camera. Andy, I still think you should call it Penzance Stuart, the trackwork is PCB soldered directly to the sleepers. As most people don't notice the lack of chairs on Highbury despite the fact its under their nose I decided not to bother on Bath. It also saves a huge amount of time which, on a project of this scale is important. On Tucking Mill, which only has half a dozen or so points, I did include chaiplates which I think was worth it. Jerry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Thanks all but other than being head of persuasion I can't take credit for any of it. Don, I'm going to see John at the end of Feb so will take my camera. Andy, I still think you should call it Penzance Stuart, the trackwork is PCB soldered directly to the sleepers. As most people don't notice the lack of chairs on Highbury despite the fact its under their nose I decided not to bother on Bath. It also saves a huge amount of time which, on a project of this scale is important. On Tucking Mill, which only has half a dozen or so points, I did include chaiplates which I think was worth it. Jerry Thanks for explaining that Jerry, The track looks wonderful and, like you say, the lack of chairs doesn't detract in anyway and, I totally understand how much time this can save, besides its only nerds like myself that might notice anyway. Work like this inspires people like me, so thanks and please keep posting Rgds, Stuart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted January 24, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2013 Jerry a good point about your track. I had to take a good look to see how you made the track and that was after I had decided that Highbury was one good layout. The difference is only noticeable if you actually look for it. Besides my admitedly limited experience with Easitrac turnouts suggests that some PCB timbers are needed to give strength especially for an exhibition layout. When you have built a double slip (not in 2mm yet by me) you discover there are odd bits of rail with not a lot of fixings so I suggest that quite a few PCB timber would be advisable. At which point the question of whether to go all PCB for slips becomes pertinent. Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post queensquare Posted March 3, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) Well I don't suppose that the sight of somebody else's acreage of bare plywood is the most exciting of updates but I'm pretty excited. Spare time over the last few weeks has been spent turning lumps of 9mm ply and some softwood offcuts into the last remaining boards for Bath. Well almost as I still have the Midland fiddle yard to do and proper connections/dowels etc. Its a major milestone as the day when I can start track laying is coming ever closer. Below are a few snaps taken on my phone this evening before coming into the house for a celebratory bottle of wine (which has resulted in my volunteering Kim to make rhubarb crumble for Captain K - but that's another story!!) Bath Junction with the S&D yard and gas works to the right Bath bank with a length of Peco track and an old Mk1 used for testing clearances etc. The Midland mainline is dropping down on the left and will be hidden by the backscene/embankment. Looking up Bath bank. I have managed to squeeze in the co-op siding but unfortunately had to loose Mays siding to the brickworks. The incline is between 1 in 70 and 1 in 80 - much shallower than the prototypes 1 in 50 but then I don't have working sanding gear! This shows how the Midland line will drop under the S&D to its own fiddle yard. The GWR mainline (well about 18" terminating in a mirror!) passes under the S&D in the foreground. The tunnels - into Devonshire tunnel (chopped Peco mock up) and out of Combe Down. ...and the other way looking back toward Bath. The delightful, hidden, Lyncombe Vale between the two tunnels is sadly another casualty to lack of space. Looking down Bath bank from above what will be Devonshire tunnel. The pencil marks at 90 degrees to the track roughly mark the location of the three arch occupation bridge 9. Long way to go but a real milestone in the project Jerry Edited March 3, 2013 by queensquare 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold bcnPete Posted March 3, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) Fantastic Jerry - This is going to be some layout. Enjoy that well deserved bottle of wine and please 'dish it' on the crumble Edited March 3, 2013 by bcnPete 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted March 4, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2013 Fantastic Jerry - This is going to be some layout. Enjoy that well deserved bottle of wine and please 'dish it' on the crumble Thanks Pete, feels like a real step forward. Jerry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted March 4, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4, 2013 Thanks Pete, feels like a real step forward. Jerry It most certainly is. All the best, Dave. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Copleston Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Well I don't suppose that the sight of somebody else's acreage of bare plywood is the most exciting of updates but I'm pretty excited. Spare time over the last few weeks has been spent turning lumps of 9mm ply and some softwood offcuts into the last remaining boards for Bath. Well almost as I still have the Midland fiddle yard to do and proper connections/dowels etc. Its a major milestone as the day when I can start track laying is coming ever closer. Below are a few snaps taken on my phone this evening before coming into the house for a celebratory bottle of wine (which has resulted in my volunteering Kim to make rhubarb crumble for Captain K - but that's another story!!) Wow Jerry, it's really come along in the two weeks since I was last in your shed! Even I am getting pretty excited by your rapid progress with the benchwork (not to mention the prospect of Kim's rhubarb crumble... hopefully at Taunton). Keep at it matie, this is going to be one 'ell ova 2-mil layout! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted March 4, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2013 Nice work Jerry all looks pretty solid. It will be good to have room for your engines to stretch their legs. I cannot see that lot comming out for an exhibition. BTW I like the look of the viaduct just on the edge of the last photo. Don 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruffalo Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I am really impressed by this Jerry and it brings back memories of living in Bath during the last days of the S&D. Devonshire tunnel was a good shortcut when I was on cross-country runs. Inspirational stuff! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D869 Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 That's coming along splendidly Jerry. Must be time to book it in for a show soon. What's the roundhouse for though? - expansion at Tucking Mill perhaps? Regards, Andy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Natalie Graham Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I cannot see that lot comming out for an exhibition Especially as the 'legs' seem to be a television set and a DVD player. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted March 4, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2013 Nice work Jerry all looks pretty solid. It will be good to have room for your engines to stretch their legs. I cannot see that lot comming out for an exhibition. BTW I like the look of the viaduct just on the edge of the last photo. Don Thanks Don. That's Tucking Mill viaduct - see here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/52042-tucking-mill/ Wow Jerry, it's really come along in the two weeks since I was last in your shed! Even I am getting pretty excited by your rapid progress with the benchwork (not to mention the prospect of Kim's rhubarb crumble... hopefully at Taunton). Keep at it matie, this is going to be one 'ell ova 2-mil layout! Hi Phil, I had a couple of baseboards to do for a customer so whilst there was sawdust flying around the workshop I thought I might as well take advantage! Kim has tentatively agreed on the crumble plan...... I am really impressed by this Jerry and it brings back memories of living in Bath during the last days of the S&D. Devonshire tunnel was a good shortcut when I was on cross-country runs. Inspirational stuff! Hi Gruffalo, the opening of the twin tunnels in April will mean you can take that short cut again! That's coming along splendidly Jerry. Must be time to book it in for a show soon. What's the roundhouse for though? - expansion at Tucking Mill perhaps? Regards, Andy Hi Andy, it is booked but not for a few years yet!! As for the roundhouse, well that's a card mock up of St Blazey - I'm doing the buildings on a little John Greenwood project but don't tell anyone!! Jerry 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 ....... I'm doing the buildings on a little John Greenwood project but don't tell anyone!! ...he announced, to the world in general..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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