woodenhead Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Not sure how the problems with this model can be pointed at DJ, he made a lot of mistakes, but this model was stalled a long time after he left and had been re-engineered by the latest owners before they stopped development. Perhaps it had more to do with the Farish BoB than DJ. It's odd the 59 just came back just before RevolutioN announced theirs, perhaps Farish need to show us a streamlined West Country..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34010-34005 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Nine years and still waiting....... Plans have changed and at least I can run them on a OO9 track. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OFFTHE RAILS Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 On 20/08/2021 at 10:32, woodenhead said: Not sure how the problems with this model can be pointed at DJ, he made a lot of mistakes, but this model was stalled a long time after he left and had been re-engineered by the latest owners before they stopped development. Perhaps it had more to do with the Farish BoB than DJ. The last Farish streamlined BOBs were the Chinese revamped ancient Poole models made around 2005 and unlikely to have affected Dapol"s decision to delay theirs. More likely it was the more recent Farish Merchant Navy locos which Dapol thought might influence their WC/BB sales. Shame - It seems neither Dapol or Farish realise the potential demand for the Bulleid light pacifics which were far more numerous and widespread geographically and in duties than the small Merchant Navy class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, OFFTHE RAILS said: Who knows what this weekend might bring - TINGs will have some announcements and clarifications. At least some N gauge announcements to come at the weekend with Revolution announcing two new models. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cofga Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 As far as sound decoders for West Country and Merchant Navy models, was there any difference i sound between these locos and also did the sounds change appreciable after being rebuilt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted September 20, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2021 On 07/09/2021 at 15:07, woodenhead said: Who knows what this weekend might bring - TINGs will have some announcements and clarifications. At least some N gauge announcements to come at the weekend with Revolution announcing two new models. News from the Dapol stand on the WC/BoB was probably another 2 years away at least. Tom. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted September 20, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 hours ago, TomE said: News from the Dapol stand on the WC/BoB was probably another 2 years away at least. Tom. Sounds like some honest realism. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted September 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 21, 2021 If Bachmann read this we could have one from them by this Christmas! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinTrucks Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 15 hours ago, Crepello said: If Bachmann read this we could have one from them by this Christmas! We wish! LOL! Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 35 minutes ago, MartinTrucks said: We wish! LOL! Martin Who knows, re-run of the MN with BoB numbers - is there actually that much difference in 2mm that would be noticeable....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 The MN was about 2 and a half foot longer than the BB - about 5mm in N gauge. The driving wheels were the same diameter. The MN tender was bigger. Must confess I’m tempted to rename and renumber a MN into a WC. To me the most noticeable difference was the nameplate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted September 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Chris M said: The MN was about 2 and a half foot longer than the BB - about 5mm in N gauge. The driving wheels were the same diameter. The MN tender was bigger. Must confess I’m tempted to rename and renumber a MN into a WC. To me the most noticeable difference was the nameplate. No, I couldn't get away with that. My Southern expert friend Colin would have an apoplectic fit! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 34 minutes ago, Crepello said: No, I couldn't get away with that. My Southern expert friend Colin would have an apoplectic fit! Would he know at first glance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Colin Posted September 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 22, 2021 To follow on from my good friend Mr Crepello (and I certainly don’t claim to be an expert here!) I’m fairly sure that some of the MN tenders were identical to those that ran behind certain WC/BBs, I think they were the largest of the WC/BB tenders and were built in BR times (to my knowledge they were only ever paired with rebuilds). Hornby Dublo’s rebuilt Bulleid was (incorrectly for their choice of locos) produced with one - an article on how to convert a Dublo WC into a reasonable likeness of a MN in Model Railway Constructor by the late Albert Goodall back in 1968 gave details of which locos could be produced without any tender modifications being necessary. In addition to the overall length discrepancy, there are numerous other detail differences (boiler diameter for a start) which for me, would definitely make a conversion rather difficult, to say the least. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr chapman Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I'm more interested in the chassis side of things. It will be the first of a new breed of n gauge chassis (apparently) and the bench mark for everything to follow. So whatever region you model its worth keeping an eye on. With the new pullman's coming these two should go together very well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Mr chapman said: I'm more interested in the chassis side of things. It will be the first of a new breed of n gauge chassis (apparently) and the bench mark for everything to follow. So whatever region you model its worth keeping an eye on. With the new pullman's coming these two should go together very well. Except if it is at least two years away then it is nothing but a computer model on a hard drive, who is to say it will be the model Dapol talked about all that time ago and not something less than when it finally emerges - take the new M7, they were happy to sell it not even DCC ready at one point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr chapman Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, woodenhead said: Except if it is at least two years away then it is nothing but a computer model on a hard drive, who is to say it will be the model Dapol talked about all that time ago and not something less than when it finally emerges - take the new M7, they were happy to sell it not even DCC ready at one point. I get where you're coming from but I think that's a little unfair. It's basically a reissue with a tweeked chassis, and that was only because it could be quite feeble. The new chassis is trying to squeeze more weight into an existing body. Like the previous releases if you want to dcc fit it then you can find a way. Im not saying that's ideal, they are just working with what they already have. The Bulleid will be a new model from the ground up with the chassis contained within the locomotive. I don't mind them taking their time to get it right first time. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefen1988 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Hattons list them as "Due into stock between January 2023 & June 2023". Is this new? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted September 9, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 9, 2022 It’s new to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Kaput Posted September 9, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2022 It's also probably completely made up 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted September 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 10, 2022 Just seen something on Facebook from the n gauge show that suggest that it is still coming. Spec now including motor mounted in the loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 It is in the Catalogue on page 36, between the Schools and M7 locos. http://www.Dapol.co.uk/Catalogue/36/index.html#zoom=z Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted September 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 10, 2022 Still at the drawing stage though according to reports seen elsewhere!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefen1988 Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Even the Today new announced GWR Mogul has more "content". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted September 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Paul.Uni said: It is in the Catalogue on page 36, between the Schools and M7 locos. http://www.Dapol.co.uk/Catalogue/36/index.html#zoom=z Have you noticed the price though?!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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