34010-34005 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Hi All, I had a look at the Dapol site and still no futher update to add. However the BB/WC page is here http://Dapol.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=179_298_300_345 There is no link from the main page. :-( Therefore no news is good news. Cheers, Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted December 26, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 26, 2016 last I heard, Dapol were having difficultly sourcing a suitable motor for the new loco drive chassis and the model has also undergone an almost total re-design since the original CADs were shown here. Hopefully they will have further updates in the new year. I need several of these and the funds are waiting!! Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted December 26, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 26, 2016 I don't see how there can be an issue with the air smoothed ones. It's a box. Put an 08 diesel chassis in it. (This is completely in jest of course before anyone shoots me!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 CAD shown at the Open day in October showed a drive with no worm. It also showed separate bearings for the wheelsets. I suspect that sourcing new components for tooling and a 1st EP has gone a very long way beyond just looking for a satisfactory motor. They are trying to engineer as many issues as possible out of the next generation of locos. Worth waiting for. Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted December 26, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 26, 2016 The info regarding the motor was given at TINGS this year. I'm pretty sure these are much further away than all of us would like! Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I had a look at the Dapol site and still no futher update to add. It's worth also keeping an eye on the Dapol Digest Forum as well as their website. Plus you can ask Dapol questions directly there. G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34010-34005 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 It's worth also keeping an eye on the Dapol Digest Forum as well as their website. Plus you can ask Dapol questions directly there. G. Hi Grahame, I'm on there too with no update as such. Thanks anyway, Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinMotor Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 These models take longer to design and build than the 1:1 scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34010-34005 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Hi all, I have heard that these Bulleid's are dropped from the list. Shame if this is true as this was going to be a fantastic project. Shame Dapol has gone down this line. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 They're not dropped, just 'in abeyance'. They are rejigging them for the latest motor and chip technology, and will get them into production 'when the time is right'. This, officially, from the recent Dapol Open Day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Hi all, I have heard that these Bulleid's are dropped from the list. Shame if this is true as this was going to be a fantastic project. Shame Dapol has gone down this line. Chris Sometimes it's better not to listen to the rumours within this industry and hobby, Dapol have never ever officially stated that it was dropped. Like Talisman56 said, during the Dapol Open Day they informed club members about various projects and their updates. Some people love to draw their own conclusions and spread the word as it were official. Some great scholars of this parish were predicting the cancellation of the Class 50 etc, and here it is, back on the list and being updated to a higher spec. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr chapman Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I see this being Dapol's flagship steam engine. I'm sure it will resurface when they are ready. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster622 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just to dip my oar in I asked at the Dapol stand about these at TINGS this year and was informed in no uncertain terms that it was no longer going to happen, I said ok thanks when were we going to hear about it? I got a shrug in response. I had 3 on pre-order at ehattons - not anymore! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium rprodgers Posted November 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2017 If this information from the Dapol stand is accurate then all they have done will be to have put off potential competitors and delayed a light Pacific in N. My preference was that this model had been selected by Farish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster622 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 I too would love Farish to produce them with their recent fantastic releases like the Duchess & Castle Class I honestly couldn't believe: A.What I was hearing B. The way in which I was being told this as a would be purchaser I have considered ringing Dapol to see if they can verify what the gentleman said at TING's 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted September 30, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 30, 2018 Just seen a comment on a different forum that at the Dapol open day it was said that the non rebuilt WC's are back in development. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlambert Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 That's right! Described as a 'high-end' model, with a planned arrival of 2020. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 That's right! Described as a 'high-end' model, with a planned arrival of 2020. That’s gives us about five years to save up then! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted September 30, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 30, 2018 I have mixed feelings about this news as I need a few of these, but my experience with previous Dapol steam engines has been largely negative. I hope they can maintain the standard set with the Class 68, which is an excellent model, but personally I’ll be holding off on any pre orders until I see something in plastic & running. Part of me still wishes Bachmann had jumped in and nicked it! Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I have mixed feelings about this news as I need a few of these, but my experience with previous Dapol steam engines has been largely negative. I hope they can maintain the standard set with the Class 68, which is an excellent model, but personally I’ll be holding off on any pre orders until I see something in plastic & running. Part of me still wishes Bachmann had jumped in and nicked it! Tom. It won't be "something in plastic" - it will have a diecast metal body. They have been quietly working on the engineering of these for some time with a view to getting them as good as the best of the Continentals and way ahead of current UK standards, which may well be reflected in the price. Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted October 1, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2018 I’m happy to pay what a model is worth if the quality is there, both in terms of accuracy and finish but perhaps most importantly running quality. Bachmann have set a high bar with their most recent models in all 3 of those areas, and I hope Dapol can match or exceed that with this model. The Class 68 was a step change in the standard of their diesel models, let’s hope the BoB/West Country is the same for their steam range. Tom. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) I have mixed feelings about this news as I need a few of these, but my experience with previous Dapol steam engines has been largely negative. I hope they can maintain the standard set with the Class 68, which is an excellent model, but personally I’ll be holding off on any pre orders until I see something in plastic & running. Part of me still wishes Bachmann had jumped in and nicked it! Tom. Good luck with seeing anything in plastic. The model is going to be mostly die-cast construction and they plan to have stainless-steel con rods this time. So overall a better improvement in materials We've all seen what a beautiful model the Class 68 is so I personally don't understand your doubt over this? It is part of their "Next Generation" lineup so why will they take a step backwards if they've already used this better design philosophy on the Class 68 and Class 50 (and also the Class 59). Edited October 1, 2018 by MGR Hooper! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I wonder if Hattons will still honour my original pre-order price? I gave up waiting and splashed out on a Farish MN although this really is too big for a 3-coach rake. It is a lovely loco though and Dapol's light pacific will have to be pretty good to make me consider replacing it. Here's hoping I will be impressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted October 1, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) Good luck with seeing anything in plastic. The model is going to be mostly die-cast construction and they plan to have stainless-steel con rods this time. So overall a better improvement in materials We've all seen what a beautiful model the Class 68 is so I personally don't understand your doubt over this? It is part of their "Next Generation" lineup so why will they take a step backwards if they've already used this better design philosophy on the Class 68 and Class 50 (and also the Class 59). Because Dapol haven’t yet proven they can consistently produce high quality, reliable models in N Gauge. Not for me anyway. The 68 was a massive step forward for them in terms of performance & quality over their previous releases, and I have 2, but one swallow does not a summer make. If Dapol can produce a mechanism that is the equal, or exceeds the standard of recent Farish products and the overall quality of the model is there then I’ll have no hesitation in buying the 4 I need (assuming they also get around to doing the rebuilt versions eventually, I understand it’s just the streamlined versions planned at the moment) but at the suggested price of £199, I’m not prepared to rely on blind fanboy faith for this one I’m afraid. Tom. Edited October 1, 2018 by TomE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 £199? I had missed that part of the announcement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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