Southern Region photos 1980s.

[bcnPete]

Smashing thread this

 

I grew up a part of my life in Burgess Hill and we were bored of seeing mainly EMU's, 73's, 33's and the odd 47...but now I am rather happy to see them on here again...

 

Thanks all...will try to upload a few of mine some time

[P.C.M]

Do you know when and the 2 locos?

Hi,

The class 47 is 050 which was the first one painted in Railfreight livery. The class 33 is 006 the date is late 1985. Sorry I can't give you an exact date as I was never really any good writting down date back in the day.

 

Cheers Peter.

[P.C.M]

Don't think I have posted this one before.

 

Cheers Peter.

[phixer64]

The 33 looks as if its at Fareham on a Cardiff - Pompey service

 

Regards Jeff

[roundhouse]

A few shots from 1985.

 

Firstly a couple taken at Hurst Green, one of the VSOE stock and then one of the evening peak loco hauled services

 

The following photos are from the last day of service on the Tunbridge Wells to Erige line.

 

Grove Junction

 

And finally at Groombridge. The second shot is where the preserved station platform is now located.

 

[P.C.M]

The 33 looks as if its at Fareham on a Cardiff - Pompey service

 

Regards Jeff

Spot on Jeff, a good bail point when out bashing.

 

Cheers Peter.

[eastwestdivide]

Isle of Wight, 1987, with shunter 03079 and units 485041 (with "Ryde Rail" branding and map logo on the front), 485044 (with "Ryde[map]Rail[doors]Isle of Wight[bR logo]" on the side of the motor coach).

I'd guess the interior is probably one of those two units, possibly -044, as there's a 4 peeping out painted on the end wall on the left.

 

[P.C.M]

A few from Eastleigh.

[eastwestdivide]

Relatively unusual to see a 33+73 double-header.

And always good to see "inter-city" liveried locos on freight trains.

[eastwestdivide]

Departmental EMU roundup...

 

The Southern had some ancient EMUs which did a weekly tour of their depots, distributing spares.

Here, 023, a former 2-HAL, trundles through Strood, 1979/80ish (sorry, 126 instamatic camera):

 

And the same unit at Basingstoke when my camera had improved, but my photography not so much. I'm pretty sure it's blue. With a bit of grime around the cables, they always looked positively ancient alongside things like 4-VEPs:

 

By the time I got any good at it, those had been replaced by slightly more modern units, converted Bullied 2-HAPs, here 019 at Strood in late 1983. You can see the blanked out large windows from the corridor side of the nearest coach.

 

and 019 again at Tonbridge, 1984:

 

And an oddity that I've posted elsewhere, two departmental 2-HAPs, 052 nearest the camera, sandwiching the high speed track recording coach 999550, which is still in service today. At the foot of Sole Street bank in Strood, in 1985:

[lmsforever]

Blimey I feel very ancient after seeing the IOW pictures those units were the first train I ever travelled on back in 1948 from Newbury Park on the Central Line went to Stratford and back amazing just how long they lasted .Wonder if the line will survive the next round of franchise settlements given the amount of work supposedly required to keep it running?   

[P.C.M]

Relatively unusual to see a 33+73 double-header.

And always good to see "inter-city" liveried locos on freight trains.

I only saw this pairing a few times myself. The 73 on this train was ex works and on test as far as I know.

 

Cheers Peter.

[P.C.M]

I really can't remember if these have been posted on here or the old forum but here goes.

 

Cheers Peter,

[Southernman46]

I just loved those vans on the siding - the wrong side of the buffers - anyone got the details of that LMS design 12t one ?

[cromptonnut]

I just loved those vans on the siding - the wrong side of the buffers - anyone got the details of that LMS design 12t one ?

 

Another thing to model, and a picture to prove it happened when someone tries to tell you that you've made a mistake.  I wonder what the back story to that was?

[Mike Storey]

Another thing to model, and a picture to prove it happened when someone tries to tell you that you've made a mistake.  I wonder what the back story to that was?

 

I would guess they were condemned and being used for stores. We had a couple like that on a back road at Ramsgate, and one at Gillingham shed, in the '80's, but not beyond any stops!

[darren01]

Some Shots of Weymouth in the late 70's/early 80's.

 

D2179 (undated)

D2179 WEY.jpg

 

33101 290481

33101 WEY 290481.jpg

 

47140 (n/d)

47140 WEY.jpg

 

33115 290481

33115 WEY 290481.jpg

 

331XX (n/d)

331xx WEY.jpg

 

31411 (n/d)

31411 WEY.jpg

 

33108,47030,33106 270882

33109,47030,33106 WEY 270882.jpg

Looking at the photo's above ,is that the site of the old GWR steam shed?

Darren

[simpsonjock]

Looking at the photo's above ,is that the site of the old GWR steam shed?

Darren

Hi Darren

 

The photos are not around the area of the old steam shed - that was around a quarter of a mile to the north, on the east side of the line. These photos have the Jubilee Sidings in the background, which were used to stable the daily postal train to Waterloo, and for summer dated services and excursions - they could get rather full on a Saturday afternoon! One of the photos shows the Alexandra footbridge, a popular location for train watching, since replaced with a more modern version.

 

The site of Jubilee sidings is now, inevitably, a retail park.

 

The steam shed area became a housing estate in the mid1970's which recently has been the subject of some controversy as residents have been complaining about noise and smoke from the summer Saturday HST stabled in the long siding on the other side of the running lines.

 

These are great photos and bring back good memories of an interesting period in Weymouth.

 

David

[Nearholmer]

Quite how I have overlooked this wonderful thread so far, I don't know.

 

This is BR(S) as it still is inside my head. I moved away from living in and working on BR(S) in 1989, and still get a nasty shock every time I go back and discover that it isn't like that any more!

 

The fact that Eridge station gets a lot of look-ins is great, because it was my local station when I was growing up. Even half-preserved, it is a sad place now.

 

If I can find time, I will get scanning.

 

Kevin

[acg5324]

And a few new ones from me with a bit of a Crompton theme!

33054 UCK 2U1433054 arrives at Uckfield with 2U14 the 1720 London Bridge to Uckfield loco hauled service as a 3H DEMU departs with an up service.
Slide undated.
Photographer unknown.

33043 and 33015 get 1O86 the 1340SO Exeter St Davids to Brighton away from Exeter Central. The summer months saw this train double headed as the consist was 12 cars including a Buffet.Slide dated 8/8/81.
Photographer unknown.

 

33044 shunts the wagons of sand in Holmethorpe yard just to the north and east of Redhill. Sandwiched between the Quarry and Redhill lines the location of the yard can still be made out, but has long been lifted.

Slide undated.
Photographer unknown.

See the next photo for the same train joining the mainline.

 

33044 brings a train load of sand up from the BIS Holmethorpe Yard on to the Brighton mainline just north of Redhill. 4CIG 7366 heads north with an unidentified service.
Slide undated.
Photographer unknown.

[Nearholmer]

ACG

 

What were the working details of the Holmethorpre trains?

 

I seem to remember them arriving at Redhill, then being shunted in the yard on the Up side (great place to watch fly-shunting from the platform), after which, I think the wagons went "somewhere up north", by way of a train hauled out through Reading by a WR loco, usually a Hymek or a Western in the early 70s.

 

If i do get scanning, I will try to find my pictures of the BIS shunting locos at Holmethorpre.

 

Kevin

[acg5324]

ACG

What were the working details of the Holmethorpre trains?

I seem to remember them arriving at Redhill, then being shunted in the yard on the Up side (great place to watch fly-shunting from the platform), after which, I think the wagons went "somewhere up north", by way of a train hauled out through Reading by a WR loco, usually a Hymek or a Western in the early 70s.

If i do get scanning, I will try to find my pictures of the BIS shunting locos at Holmethorpre.

Kevin

I'll see if I can find my WTT for times, I'm guessing the images although undated must be late 70's or early 1980s before Three Bridges ASC resignalling.

[Fat Controller]

ACG

 

What were the working details of the Holmethorpre trains?

 

I seem to remember them arriving at Redhill, then being shunted in the yard on the Up side (great place to watch fly-shunting from the platform), after which, I think the wagons went "somewhere up north", by way of a train hauled out through Reading by a WR loco, usually a Hymek or a Western in the early 70s.

 

If i do get scanning, I will try to find my pictures of the BIS shunting locos at Holmethorpre.

 

Kevin

I've seen photos, taken in the 1970s around Rugby, of these wagons working up the WCML from Willesden. They must have been a real PITA to timetable, as they were restricted to 35 mph. They lost a lot of sand to 'blow-off', even at this snail-like pace, and if at the van end of the train, would have a 12t van between them and the brake van to save the guard from being sand-blasted. Why they never sheeted them, I can't understand. The ultimate destination was the Warrington/ St Helens area where the sand was used for glass-making, and, I believe, in the production of scouring powders (the Vim/Ajax type)

[eastwestdivide]

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If I can find time, I will get scanning.

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Please!

[phil-b259]

I'll see if I can find my WTT for times, I'm guessing the images although undated must be late 70's or early 1980s before Three Bridges ASC resignalling.

 

The photo showing the 33 joining the main line must date from the early - mid 80s because if you look carefully there is fresh concrete troughing and new looking location cases in view, which date from the resignalling and are still there today. I also think I can make out a new colour light signal post to the left of the CIG unit (which is heading north to London for those not familiar with the location)

 

The Brighton main line went live in stages in 1984 / 1985 (although the Redhill lines were only done once the Norbury / Anerley - Brighton via the Quarry lines was live) so we are probably looking at 1984 for the date of the photo.