Southern Region photos 1980s.

[acg5324]

The photo showing the 33 joining the main line must date from the early - mid 80s because if you look carefully there is fresh concrete troughing and new looking location cases in view, which date from the resignalling and are still there today. I also think I can make out a new colour light signal post to the left of the CIG unit (which is heading north to London for those not familiar with the location)

 

The Brighton main line went live in stages in 1984 / 1985 (although the Redhill lines were only done once the Norbury / Anerley - Brighton via the Quarry lines was live) so we are probably looking at 1984 for the date of the photo.

Thanks for that and your eagle eyes. I guessed it was early 1980s but 1984 narrows it down further.

[acg5324]

I'll post a few more later today.

47500 'Great Western' pauses at Canterbury East whilst working 1O99 the 0618 Manchester Piccadilly to Folkestone Central.
Slide dated 15/5/89.
Photographer unknown.

 

33058 is captured at Wilton Jct west of Salisbury with a Portsmouth to Bristol service.

Slide undated but 1980's 
Photographer unknown.

 

47332 passes through Woking with a southbound Freightliner service bound for Southampton.

33119 can be seen stabled to the left.
Slide dated 28/8/86.
Photographer J.H.Day.

 

In ex works condition 47158 'Henry Ford' is captured crossing the M25 at Chertsey with a train of oil tanks.

Slide dated 21/8/81.
Photographer unknown.

[acg5324]

One extra with an ulterior motive....anyone know where this is? 33211 with a pway train.

[eastwestdivide]

Gravesend I think.

[DY444]

One extra with an ulterior motive....anyone know where this is? 33211 with a pway train.

 

Gravesend I believe

[acg5324]

Thank you both for that.

[Shed]

Any more pictures around Salisbury ?

[Southernman46]

One extra with an ulterior motive....anyone know where this is? 33211 with a pway train.

Definitely country end of Gravesend on the down through line - station looks COMPLETELY different these days

 

Love that gorgeous ex-LMS medium open - not overloaded at all !!!!!

[guzzler17]

33047 is captured at Salisbury whilst working 1V71 the 0920SO Brighton to Exeter St Davids service. Winter Timetable was a single loco and 8 cars, during the summer months this went up to two locos an 11 coaches.

Slide dated 9/4/83.

Photographer unknown

Assuming that the photographer recorded the correct date for this photo then the loco was 33007 rather than 33047.

 

I was aboard the quoted service on that day which left Salisbury 69 late as it had been diverted via Basingstoke, where I joined it, due to engineering work between Romsey and Salisbury.  Due to the late running it was terminated at Yeovil Junction with passengers for stations further west joining the delayed 11.10 ex Waterloo.

 

The Mule was kicking hard that day as at least three Waterloo services were 33 hauled.  The 13.35 Exeter was cancelled and the stock was run 40 late as far as Yeovil, effectively as the Exeter to Brighton.  At Yeovil the Brighton proper was restarted with 33007 after the delayed Waterloo service continued east.

 

Nigel

[bobster]

A few more of mine from 20th 21st & 22nd April 1988 at Salfords

 

Photo's from top to bottom are = 4 Cig 2202 - 33 016 - 33 016 - 33 111 - 33 208 - 47 ? - 47 592 Brighton - Manchester - 59 002 - 59 002 Crawley - Acton Empties - 4 Cig ? - 319 014 - 33 ? - 33 ? -  DMU L842 - Gatex 73 ? - Gatex 73 ?.

 

Cheers, Bob.

[bobster]

Some from Godstone taken on Saturday 8th March 1986 - I had been Invited by a friend who was Signalman at Godstone Box until it closed (Can't remember when that was ?) - Have spent a few pleasant summer evenings in that box watching a professional Signalman at work   - I did not pull any levers  Honest Guvnor I never touched em !!

 

You can see in a couple of the Signal pics the new Colour Light Signals lying on the floor ready to be Installed.

 

Cheers, Bob.

[bobster]

A few not very good pics that I took at Salfords in the Summer of 1986 following the derailment of some ARC PGA Hopper Wagons that I believe were leaving Salfords Yard coming from the Brett Marine Siding - Would be Interested if anyone can add more Info to this Incident.

 

I had gone to Salfords to get the Class 47 on the Manchester - Brighton service (I think) but only had a few frames left on the film.

 

Cheers, Bob.

[brushman47544]

A few more of mine from 20th 21st & 22nd April 1988 at Salfords

 

Photo's from top to bottom are = 4 Cig 2202 - 33 016 - 33 016 - 33 111 - 33 208 - 47 208 - 47 592 Brighton - Manchester - 59 002 - 59 002 Crawley - Acton Empties - 4 Cig ? - 319 014 - 33 ? - 33 ? -  DMU L842 - Gatex 73 ? - Gatex 73 ?.

 

Cheers, Bob.

Not 47208 as that was in a collision with another train at Invergowrie on 22 October 1979 and withdrawn.

[bobster]

Not 47208 as that was in a collision with another train at Invergowrie on 22 October 1979 and withdrawn.

 

Thanks  Brushman - Sorry typing error there - Will try to find the correct number in my notes.

 

Cheers, Bob.

[Fat Controller]

On the coal empties hauled by 33208, a slightly lower vehicle is visible at the end of the train- I suspect this is an OBA or OCA that had been used to deliver bagged coal to Hove, probably from Coventry colliery.

[Southernman46]

A few more of mine from 20th 21st & 22nd April 1988 at Salfords

 

Cheers, Bob.

:Love the way 4-BIG buffet cars always had black staining around the sliding ventilator windows in the kitchen area .............

[bobster]

A few of Reigate Station and Signal Box in the Summer of 1986. - 4VEP 7812 - 4VEP 7730 - DMU L589 - 4VEP 7810 - DMU L582 ? Departing towards Guildford - Reigate Box Levers - 2 General views of the Crossing/SB & Station.

 

The Station building on the right has long since gone - Pity I did not photograph it more, but thought it would be there for ever

 

Cheers, Bob.

[acg5324]

A few more pics from me with an ED theme...........

 

Slightly early for the subject Oct 1978......does anyone know the location, got to be London area the headcode 14 that would make even a bit of sense is a Victoria to Brighton or v/v semi fast but why the Mk2 IC rake?

 

73104 with a 4TCB and 4TC in tow. Foxhills crossing near Ashurst 19/3/87.

 

73128 passes Crayford with aggregate hoppers 25/5/81.

 

 

73103 departs Haslemere with the 1216 Portsmouth Hbr to Waterloo, 4TCs 428 and 427 form the train. 9/11/81.

 

73127 at Millbrook with some oil tanks in tow. August 1984. Oxford diecast please note the nice range of cars not produced in N gauge.....OK the Cortina is coming soon

[DY444]

A few more pics from me with an ED theme...........

 

Slightly early for the subject Oct 1978......does anyone know the location, got to be London area the headcode 14 that would make even a bit of sense is a Victoria to Brighton or v/v semi fast but why the Mk2 IC rake?

 

 

Just west of Wimbledon on the Up Fast

[4630]

 

73127 at Millbrook with some oil tanks in tow. August 1984. Oxford diecast please note the nice range of cars not produced in N gauge.....OK the Cortina is coming soon

Just a minor correction. The location is Redbridge not Millbrook.

[acg5324]

I knew someone would know where it was.....thanks DY444. Driver just making up a headcode by the looks of it.

 

Thanks for the correction 4630.

[brushman47544]

Just west of Wimbledon on the Up Fast

 

I knew someone would know where it was.....thanks DY444. Driver just making up a headcode by the looks of it.

 

The headcode could well be correct-ish. On the SWD, 14 is/was Waterloo - Virginia Water via Weybridge up to 1981 (when it changed to Waterloo - Waterloo via Chertsey and Richmond). There used to be a fill-in move for a WoE (I think) loco hauled set to work round one of the loops to free up a platform a Waterloo that would otherwise be blocked in the evening peak by a rake of stock. The 73 could be on that working.

[eastwestdivide]

My oldest SEG headcode book (1978) has '14' as: 

Wloo - Weybridge - Staines

and

Esher - Staines (r & e), where r = race and rugby specials, and e = ECS

(as well as others away from the SW division)

 

The two brakes in the middle certainly make it look like a Wloo-Exeter set of coaches from the 1980s, but is that a Mk1 buffet car, and didn't those Exeter Mk2 rakes use converted Mk2 mini-buffets?

[acg5324]

My oldest SEG headcode book (1978) has '14' as: 

Wloo - Weybridge - Staines

and

Esher - Staines (r & e), where r = race and rugby specials, and e = ECS

(as well as others away from the SW division)

 

The two brakes in the middle certainly make it look like a Wloo-Exeter set of coaches from the 1980s, but is that a Mk1 buffet car, and didn't those Exeter Mk2 rakes use converted Mk2 mini-buffets?

It's in its original kodakchrome slide mount dated Oct 1978.

It does look like a WoE set with the two Brake vehicles back to back but were the Waterloo services Mk1 rakes until later?

[brushman47544]

The two brakes in the middle certainly make it look like a Wloo-Exeter set of coaches from the 1980s, but is that a Mk1 buffet car, and didn't those Exeter Mk2 rakes use converted Mk2 mini-buffets?

 

Yes, but the photo is dated Oct 1978 and the WoE Mk2C TSOTs (W65xx) weren't converted until around 1980. The Mk1 in the photo looks like an RB. When was the WoE service converted from Mk1 to Mk2? I can't remember for the moment.