RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted April 17, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 17, 2012 Folks, this really is very early days, as usual a press story with little behind it has 'got the hares running...' NR has been doing a preliminary study for Cornwall Council to explore the options, paid for entirely by the local authority. I have had some involvement, and things ain't as clear cut as the press article implies - no real surprises there, surely? Personally, I would push very hard for significant infrastructure improvements at St Austell to handle the new/amended services, may be even a bay platform, certainly some more signalling, but none of this is even remotely funded yet, and there is a mass of water to flow under the metaphorical bridge before anything starts resembling a definite decision. One thing, though, who in their right mind in this current climate would fund the retention of the Goonbarrow Jct to St Dennis Jct section, were the passenger route to be via Parkandillack? Rich and Martyn have got one thing spot on in their discussions, therefore, which is that Goonbarrow box could be replaced by a GF or just hand points. It would mean the closure of Luxulyan, Bugle & Roche stations, which I agree would be a shame, but if it came down to a straight choice, who would refuse a new, higher speed link from a sensible changing trains location like St Austell, which is much better set up to deal with passengers for that purpose than Par? (as Mickey will probably only remember too well! )... To retain these three halts would require further local authority or other funding, which I am sure would not form part of the business case for the new link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted April 17, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 17, 2012 Thanks for the "voice of realism", CK! As usual, we get a bit over-excited over possible improvements, but it is heartening to hear that there are proposals under consideration even if they may be along term project Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonhaynes72 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Biggest problem with the service to Newquay is that way back when they shut the wrong line.....Newquay to Truro via Chacewater would have been much more sensible a route to keep open Completely agree looking at all the stops along that line, but too late for that. Agree that losing those halts would be a shame, but agree it would be a real benefit. Cheers, Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shed Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 is Cornish re-signalling back on now? https://www.railengineer.uk/2018/01/15/cornwalls-capacity-challenge/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2018 is Cornish re-signalling back on now? https://www.railengineer.uk/2018/01/15/cornwalls-capacity-challenge/ Piecemeal enhancements like this do not a re-signalling make. There is clearly an acceptance that full re-signalling is now so far off that other improvements cannot wait for it. I strongly suspect that, when the time does eventually come, much of Cornwall will go from lower quadrant semaphores to in-cab signalling in one go! John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Piecemeal enhancements like this do not a re-signalling make. There is clearly an acceptance that full re-signalling is now so far off that other improvements cannot wait for it. I strongly suspect that, when the time does eventually come, much of Cornwall will go from lower quadrant semaphores to in-cab signalling in one go! John As a driver over the route in question I agree with you, as Kernow is so far away from London (it may as well be on another planet) there is no desire to waste spend money down here, When the grand Exeter ROC scheme was first mooted I just laughed because I knew then there was no way that amount of money was going to be spent on it and it would be trimmed back until very little remained (see the current amount allocated to the new depot at Exeter which has been cut by £15million despite funding supposedly being in place), now, with the 2 trains an hour coming ever closer, it has been realised the signalling isnt up to it (sections too long) so something has to be done, so they are doing the bare minimum to make it possible. Its a good job they managed to squeeze it all into Lostwithiel because at one stage it looked like another signal box would need to be opened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 As a driver over the route in question I agree with you, as Kernow is so far away from London (it may as well be on another planet) there is no desire to waste spend money down here, When the grand Exeter ROC scheme was first mooted I just laughed because I knew then there was no way that amount of money was going to be spent on it and it would be trimmed back until very little remained (see the current amount allocated to the new depot at Exeter which has been cut by £15million despite funding supposedly being in place), now, with the 2 trains an hour coming ever closer, it has been realised the signalling isnt up to it (sections too long) so something has to be done, so they are doing the bare minimum to make it possible. Its a good job they managed to squeeze it all into Lostwithiel because at one stage it looked like another signal box would need to be opened. So if Lostwithiel is busier does it get an extra signaller to help out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Long thread! Has the introduction of the new trains and conversion of the HSTs made any difference to this discussion? Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Long thread! Has the introduction of the new trains and conversion of the HSTs made any difference to this discussion? Brian. Stage 1 (Menheniot and Bodmin areas) went live a couple of weeks ago, the rest will go live in a month or two ((I think). The HST conversion has replaced a 150 so no enhanced (timetable) service yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 Related article https://www.railengineer.uk/2018/10/08/improved-data-communications-in-cornwall/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shed Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Related article https://www.railengineer.uk/2018/10/08/improved-data-communications-in-cornwall/ Still not quite Digital Railway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Still not quite Digital Railway This wasn't a digital railway job, it was a bog standard colour light line capacity upgrade. Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 This wasn't a digital railway job, it was a bog standard colour light line capacity upgrade. Simon Think that was the point.Although the FTN has been upgraded to newer IP equipment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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