Old Tearaway Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 When it comes to things steamy, Kruger. Knockout by single punch three seconds into round one... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GWR_2602_Class Looks like a scratch build first attempt where the measurements were mis-read. Still prettier than a Q1 though..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Tearaway Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 If beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder, there must be a severe case of myopia among French Tramway stylists… Exhibit 1: - Marseille Bombardier Flexity Outlook Exhibit 2: - Strasbourg Bombardier EuroTram Exhibit 3: - Paris Alstom Citadis T2 Exhibit 4: - Paris Siemens Avanto S70 Tram-Train And finally the Clincher: - Lyon Alstom Citadis T2/T3 The thing is with each of these, is that they were deliberately styled like that. In all cases there are examples elsewhere of the same vehicle types but with much more conventionally (and atractively) styled ends so Why oh Why! Leave it to the nation (France) that is notorious for producing the ugliest cars (2CV, Renault 4, Renault Migraine, etc.) vans (Renault C van), tanks (Everything so far) to also produce some hideously ugly things on rails. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Tearaway Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Are we allowed to nominate model locomotives too?? If so what about the Jouef / Playcraft Class 29 and any of the Trix Twin 0-4-0 steam locos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted December 30, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 30, 2015 Anything, from any country, fitted with a Crosti boiler. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 the German 2-6-4 and the Urie rebuilds have that quality of appearing to be made from components which not only appear mismatched, but not actually the same scale either, Have to admit, I don't doubt that Germsn thing is memorable... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 For me, its got to be the L1 'Camelbacks' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erie_L-1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted December 30, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 30, 2015 Especially as rebuilt by Urie. I find No.333 positively nightmarish. http://www.semgonline.com/steam/pics/DD460_F13_333p5btm.jpg And this one is in a class of its own https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Nine_Elms_Locomotive_Depot_Ex-LSW_4-6-0_on_turntable_geograph-2655940-by-Ben-Brooksbank.jpg Both fairly desperate attempts to obtain performance and economy from original designs that failed to deliver either. The T14s (bottom picture) became sufficiently OK in those terms to outlast the rest by getting on for three decades. However, all of the LSWR Drummond 4-6-0s were so ill-proportioned that there was nothing to be done to improve their looks. Few of the others survived long, demoted from their intended express role to coal hauling or just consigned to store pending scrap or the recycling of their numbers and tenders for "accountant's rebuilds" into H15s and King Arthurs. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 And this one is in a class of its own https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Nine_Elms_Locomotive_Depot_Ex-LSW_4-6-0_on_turntable_geograph-2655940-by-Ben-Brooksbank.jpg The main problem with this one, I think, is how high the boiler appears to be pitched because of the flat running plate for the front 1/3rd of the loco. I think, if the running plate was raised just before the cylinders to a 'half-height' between the height of the buffer-beam and the height of the running plate over the drivers, it would help to cancel the 'slab' front end. Regards, Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted January 3, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 3, 2016 Often thought why are foreign steam locos generally ugly compared to UK ones...... ? I should think foreign people think the exact opposite..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railsquid Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I visited the Hornby dealer here in Tokyo (yes, there is such a thing) a while back out of curiosity, and the proprietor was most excited to meet a real British person, anyway I was curious to know what kind of people are into British OO gauge here (Japan being very much an N gauge country), apparently it's mainly collectors who like colourful stream engines. Which is understandable, as Japanese steam locomotives come in a number of fetching shades of black, often pulling coaches in lively shades of brown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangoman69 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 To me the Southern's Q1 is truly hideous! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerner Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Ah but hideous is in the eye of the beholder. Personally I do like the ugly but normally powerful looking locos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanders Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Not technically a loco, but the eBay Madness thread just reminded me about the utter monstrosity that is the Class 140, which in turn spawned further monstrosities, so it's doubly bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poggy1165 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I remember reading something by an American guy, who stated that British locos look rather 'feminine'. I think I know what he meant. Traditionally there was a concern for neatness, rather like the concern that many ladies have that any pipes in the kitchen should be 'boxed in'. I think this attitude was starting to break down even before the first world war. Subtly at first. With the BR standards you see much more 'American' styling, with more of the gubbins on show for easy maintenance. Practical, but less tidy, less pretty. Add that to the loading gauge, and you find that once boilers get above a certain size, it's impossible for boiler mountings to be well proportioned. So engines, especially big engines, start to look squat. But whether an engine is ugly or not is definitely in the eye of the beholder. And even ugly engines can exert a certain charm. Always fancied a model of a Hoy 2-6-2 tank myself, and I don't think pre-group engines get any uglier that that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chy Mengrowyn Paul Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 But I liked the 140.... ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I've just googled the Hoy 2-6-2, a loco I'd never heard of. Not sure about "ugly", I'd say it's more a case that the proportions have been lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
standardblue Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 This is what would happen if an EMU mated with Bender from Futurama. http://www.railpictu...to.php?id=27046 Cheers David I think I saw a picture recently (could have been photoshopped) of the front end of one of those done up as a 'Minion'! Cheers, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Leave it to the nation (France) that is notorious for producing the ugliest cars (2CV, Renault 4, Renault Migraine, etc.) vans (Renault C van), tanks (Everything so far) to also produce some hideously ugly things on rails. Dunno, I think the Belgians have given the French a run for their money. Do a Google Images search for "NMBS Type 10" and "NMBS Type 36"..... Both classes shared the same boiler. Type 10 is what happened when a Stanier Princess got it on with a Gresley B17 outside of wedlock. Type 36 is...well.....ever seen a wheelbase like that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted May 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 30, 2016 I'm loving the 36! All those 'extras'...most modellable..! Now the type 10 is crying out to be modelled. It looks like the designer forgot something...! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I'm loving the 36! All those 'extras'...most modellable..! Now the type 10 is crying out to be modelled. It looks like the designer forgot something...! SNCB.jpg Please don't. It'll only encourage the others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted May 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 30, 2016 kitson-still.jpg Kitson-Still diesel steam hybrid of 1926. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_diesel_hybrid_locomotive So ugly that it's worth modelling! Will the model also have such a short operational life? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Will the model also have such a short operational life? It will if you put a Heljan Beyer-Garratt motor in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 To me the Southern's Q1 is truly hideous! I absolutely agree! I was so astonished to find it was a British locomotive that a friend and I spent more than a week nursing his Chummy Austin 7 down to Tonbridge from Liverpool and back in the 1950s to check one out for real. We then rode on the 4DD from Dartford before venturing back north; we spent 3 days on the road home fettling that Austin 7. I've enjoyed seeking out the "ugly" ever since. Isn't there something exclusive and therefore very collectable about the truly hideous? dh PS Tangoman? RU an LNER fan? (or perhaps orange) Do you not see a hint of a P2 or an A4 about a Q1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted May 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 30, 2016 Isn't there something exclusive and therefore very collectable about the truly hideous? That's so true...the uglier the better! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 That's so true...the uglier the better! So wrong on so many levels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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