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Gresley Buffet - 7mm Ian Kirk kit conversion


Vin

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Hi Vin

 

I intend to put mine on a brass underframe which I got from a good friend. When I get a kit from Ian Kirk. I tend to buy body parts only as I'm not a fan of Ian's plastic bogies and underframe.I expect to fit Sidelines 'heavyweight' bogies which are the correct pattern for this coach. I'll still need to source or alternatively scratchbuild some of the underframe fittings. I expect I'll have to scratchbuild all of the roof vents.

 

I'll look forward to seeing some piccies of your finished model.

 

Cheers

Donald

Hi Donald

 

I'm going to do similar but according to Michael Harris's Book on LNER carriages these Dia167 RBs had lightweight bogies (something that surprised me).

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... according to Michael Harris's Book on LNER carriages these Dia167 RBs had lightweight bogies ...

Hi Tim

 

I may be sticking my neck out here but I think I would have to challenge that, or at least that they retained the lightweight bogies for their entire lives. Compare the depth of the bogie sideframes on this picture of W9135E http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/5264054255/  or http://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/3833704771/ with those of TK 23896 on the NYMR http://www.lnerca.org/news/news0610.html ( the third photo down gives the clearest side view).

 

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Donald

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Hi all,

 

The photo of w9135e at York in 1977 has heavy weight gresley bogies. Apparently the easiest way to tell the types apart are an extra row of 3 rivets above the axle boxes. The difference in frame size is usually hard to judge. Especially when there are foot boards in the way. I believe it had something to do with refurbishment and the extra weight of cooking equipment.

 

Carry on with the good work. Everyone. I think a full rake of w9135e in different periods will look different.

 

Vin

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Hi Tim

 

I may be sticking my neck out here but I think I would have to challenge that, or at least that they retained the lightweight bogies for their entire lives. Compare the depth of the bogie sideframes on this picture of W9135E http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/5264054255/  or http://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/3833704771/ with those of TK 23896 on the NYMR http://www.lnerca.org/news/news0610.html ( the third photo down gives the clearest side view).

 

Cheers

Donald

Donald you're dead right - good spot! Harris's book says what it says but those bogies under W9135E look like the heavy type (with two rows of rivets above the axle boxes). Having had a dig around there is an old thread http://www.lner.info/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3527 that discusses this further. I think it once again reinforces the old 'get a photograph of your prototype' maxim.

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