Simon G Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I acquired the motors in the picture as part of a batch of largely X03/X04 and Airifx motors, but havent a clue what they are. Someone did suggest that they might be Anchoridge ones, but wasnt sure. Thanks in advance! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Top one is a DS10 - other looks like its a 5 pole X03/4 replacement motor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
multiprinter Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Top is definitely an Anchoridge DS10 and the other is an Anchoridge Dll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon G Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 Many thanks for the DS10 identification - that is spot on, having googled DS10 and found some pictures. I dont think that the other is an X03/4 replacement, as it is only 2/3rds the size of an X03/4. Even with the long shaft, it is only just as long as an X04. I would require a special mount or some careful work to get it to replace an X03/4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon G Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 Top is definitely an Anchoridge DS10 and the other is an Anchoridge Dll Many thanks also - I must have clicked 'Post' on my reply to Butler Henderson a few seconds after you posted the D11 identification! Have googled D11 and it is the same as my motor. They both run nicely, so just need to find a use for them, or sell them on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted April 30, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 30, 2012 My 5-pole replacements for Triang motors look exactly the same as the original except with a 5-pole armature. Keith 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Airfix used to retail a 5 pole X.04 type motor, something to do with the old Airfix Motor Racing stuff. (Graham Farish locos were to have 5-pole motors in 1969-1970 according to the 1969 GF "manual".) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruciethefish Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 While open-frame motors seem to have fallen out of favour these days, I find the DS10 (still available as an H1024) a useful unit as it fits comfortably between most 'OO' loco frames, & is usually quiet in operation. The D11 was also a superb unit in it's day, & I still have some saved for my own use;- It's a good idea to make up a solder tag for the 'live' brush-holder if you decide to use it, as I've seen a good many otherwise servicable motors ruined by getting solder inside the brush spring, or melting the insulation. Spares are, regretfully, no longer available.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonB Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 OT really, but I recently passed on to a fellow club member a Farish 5-pole motor in its original box, don't know if they fitted them into RTR locos. (Graham Farish locos were to have 5-pole motors in 1969-1970 according to the 1969 GF "manual".) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 OT really, but I recently passed on to a fellow club member a Farish 5-pole motor in its original box, don't know if they fitted them into RTR locos. It also says in the 1969 Farish book that the motors sold "solo" would not fit Farish locos. I think the loco motor was "built in" to the frames, probably the shaft bearing was part of the frames? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 My 5-pole replacements for Triang motors look exactly the same as the original except with a 5-pole armature. Keith D11 is smaller than XO4. I have several new in boxes along with D13's as well. I found the D11 to be a better motor than it's big brother. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60159 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Are DS10, D11 and D13 Anchoridge motors still available and if so, what would they cost? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitalspark Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Are DS10, D11 and D13 Anchoridge motors still available and if so, what would they cost? Bonnier Dundee if you are needing any open frame motors including DS10 mail me. D. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 From what I remember they are high revving and need to be gear carefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Many people feel these open frame motors are old hat these days as can type motors have far better characteristics like higher torque at lower revs, totally enclosed armature, threaded fixing holes on front for widely available gearboxes or simple mounts. I think the max revs of the D11 and D13 were something like 28000RPM whereas the equivalent can is around 12000 RPM and the torque is in a much better range for model loco use. I standardised on around 50:1 ratio with most sizes of cans and if you think about the wheel size, an express loco would go at twice the speed as a small wheeled shunter for the same motor speed. I've never had a quality can motor 'burn' but I have had a few D11s do a core meltdown due to insufficient gearing, at least though the brushes and springs are easily replaceable unlike the cheap can motors I have seen on Ebay, okay the motors are cheap enough to replace but one may need to strip the chassis down to get at it. Dave Franks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scratcher Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 (edited) I have bought a second-hand white metal kit from ebay and the motor is a D11. Any advice on the best way to wire it up, as there are no tags? Edited August 27, 2016 by scratcher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scratcher Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I have bought a second-hand white metal kit from ebay and the motor is a D11. Any advice on the best way to wire it up, as there are no tags? Found this other append ...http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/40513-anchorage-d11-motor/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebbles Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 When soldering wires to D11s and D13s be careful as there is a small hole in the brush retaining screw and solder can infiltrate soldering brush spring solid. If this happens as the carbon brush is eroded electrical contact will be lost; the motor will lose power and eventually cease to work. In the past I have come across a number of these cases. MG Sharpe use to sell replacement brush holders, but replacement brushes can be made from suitable pencil lead. From memory the D13 had only one of the brush holders insulated making the motor live to the chassis, causing problems with some instillations. On the other hand on the D11 both brush holders are insulated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scratcher Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 When soldering wires to D11s and D13s be careful as there is a small hole in the brush retaining screw and solder can infiltrate soldering brush spring solid. If this happens as the carbon brush is eroded electrical contact will be lost; the motor will lose power and eventually cease to work. In the past I have come across a number of these cases. MG Sharpe use to sell replacement brush holders, but replacement brushes can be made from suitable pencil lead. From memory the D13 had only one of the brush holders insulated making the motor live to the chassis, causing problems with some instillations. On the other hand on the D11 both brush holders are insulated. The soldering went ok and the motor is working fine. My D11 only has one insulated connector. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Resurrection of an old thread, but wondering if anyone can help? I have a DS10 where one of the pole pieces gas 'come adrift' - any suggestions as to what to use to bond it back in place please? TIA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted November 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2019 6 hours ago, leopardml2341 said: Resurrection of an old thread, but wondering if anyone can help? I have a DS10 where one of the pole pieces gas 'come adrift' - any suggestions as to what to use to bond it back in place please? TIA Perhaps try a contact adhesive, which gives a bit of time for final adjustment. No idea how successful it will be as it needs to be concentric, or it will run very badly. Might be time to look for a replacement, if it fails. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebbles Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Feed a piece of paper of suitable thickness between the pole piece that is still in place and the armature, then wrap the paper completely around the armature and epoxy resin the loose pole piece in place. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham456 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) Interestingly as I said in another post where I request info on a seven pole motor( no answers yet) I am going through my kit built logging what motors they have in them, during which I have looked at a old W and H catalog where these same motors are sold as tenshodo ? You know the same people who made spuds. who or what name came first Edited January 26, 2020 by Graham456 Spellchuck changing things P.I.T.A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I have a seven pole motor I bought quite a few years ago, quite similar to the design Kato supply with a 5 pole armature which is quite a bit smaller. It has a couple of threaded holes on the base but I am not aware of any commercially available motor mounts. Looks to have the same shaft diameter as the older Romford gears I am sold on gearboxes, especially High Level and you need an appropriate motor for them with either a 1, 1.5 or 2mm shaft preferably with mounting screws the same as the Mashimas There is at least one chap on eBay importing Chinese motors selling I think for under a tenner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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