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Just been reading the excellent article in BRM......Laptops are all well and good but you can't take them everywhere https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/emoticons/default_grin.gif

 

Yes indeed, also, sometimes you just can't beat having a feature in print....

Don't know why that is, but I do like to keep a scrapbook of my fave layouts and features...

Old fashioned, but can be an inspiring read on a cold winters evening :)

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Marc, great news regarding the publication - I must try to find a copy :D

 

Yes indeed, also, sometimes you just can't beat having a feature in print....

Don't know why that is, but I do like to keep a scrapbook of my fave layouts and features...

Old fashioned, but can be an inspiring read on a cold winters evening https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/emoticons/default_smile3.gif

 

Agreed - there's something more tactile & relaxing about a book or magazine than browsing on laptop or PC, and a boxfile of cuttings keeps the inspirations all together!

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Congratulations on that Marc - looks really good. Also I do agree about having all your inspirational articles grouped together for permanent reference. There's something reassuring about being able to open the pages. I now have 3 bulging files and going for a 4th, featuring favourite layouts and prototype articles - I never get tired of going back over them time and again.......!!

 

Well done again Marc and all the best

 

exmoordave

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Congratulations on that Marc - looks really good. Also I do agree about having all your inspirational articles grouped together for permanent reference. There's something reassuring about being able to open the pages. I now have 3 bulging files and going for a 4th, featuring favourite layouts and prototype articles - I never get tired of going back over them time and again.......!!

 

Well done again Marc and all the best

 

exmoordave

 

Yes indeed, and when you have a sort through your modelling mags,

cut out the inspiring and useful articles - you end up saving a lot of space

I myself have two files bursting at the seams.....and a small pile of mags to sort out!

She has started to notice the pile building up!

 

Better get cutting ;)

 

Cheers all, and thinks for the kind comments

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Yes indeed, and when you have a sort through your modelling mags,

cut out the inspiring and useful articles - you end up saving a lot of space

I myself have two files bursting at the seams.....and a small pile of mags to sort out!

She has started to notice the pile building up!

 

Better get cutting https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/emoticons/default_wink3.gif

 

Cheers all, and thinks for the kind comments

 

Hi,

 

I have just been reading the BRM article too - congratulations - I must admit that there is something very therapeutic and, for me nostalgic, about reading of model railways in a magazine - especially as they're now in colour :laugh:

 

The downside is knowing which mags to keep - so many great modellers and inspiration - and which to pass on, SWMBO, has noticed my collection too, with comments that we could start a Newsagents - personally I dont think it's that bad anyways my princess uses up 2/3rds of the wardrobe.. :girldevil: :laugh:

 

Keep up the great work, I shall now follow your Thread with great interest.

 

Kind regards,

 

CME

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Belatedly I know but I did enjoy reading the article whilst I was away this week. Good job all round and thought provoking. :)

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Thanks again Andy, it it wasn't for rmweb,

I would never have written any of my articles....

 

Thanks to everyone else for your kind words

I'm just glad you enjoyed reading the article, and the thread

 

 

 

....The downside is knowing which mags to keep - so many great modellers and inspiration - and which to pass on, SWMBO, has noticed my collection too, with comments that we could start a Newsagents - personally I dont think it's that bad anyways my princess uses up 2/3rds of the wardrobe.. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/emoticons/default_girl_devil.gif https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/emoticons/default_laugh1.gif

 

2/3rds of the wardrobe?

Lucky you, my own SWMBO has 2 wardrobes to my 1

... occupies some of my wardrobe, cupboards on the landing,

cupboards and units in the spare room

.... and don't get me started on the shoe cupboard! ;)

 

Cheers

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Great article Marc, it will be one for my scrapbook at the end of the year when I sort out all my mags,

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Thanks again to everyone who has made positive comments re this little layout

Something I hadn't made too much mention of previously,

was that I experimented using salt to weather my overbridge...

 

As some of you might have guessed, I had a few pieces of the Wills Vari-Girder

OO bridge panels, which were left over from building Hendre (ages back!)

 

I built up the size of the panels, using offcuts of plasticard, and styrene strip,

to make the height more suitable for O - it's still a tad small, maybe,

but I didn't want the bridge to dominate the scene

 

Anyhow, I painted some rusty colours onto the finished bridge sides,

dusted with rusty weathering powders, and once dry,

I sprinkled salt on and then sprayed with some grey paint

 

Once this was dry, I simply washed the sides with water,

and hey presto - the salt came away leaving me with some nice peeling paint

 

However, I then continued to add weathering and grime,

and wished I hadn't gone so far, as some of the peeling paint effect had been lost.....

.... it it aint broke - don't fix it

Anyhow, it's a method I will explore further in future

 

On a slightly different topic,

I have mentioned to some that I continued the ballasting and overall weathering and scenery

into the sector plate, beyond the bridge...

I think this is one factor that helps this layout look a bit bigger than it is,

and helps to trick the observer into thinking there's more of the layout beyond the bridge,

as hopefully this view shows.....

 

As many folk know, I use mirrors as a similar visual trick

- there is a small piece of mirror on the front road of the sector plate....

I'm really pleased with how well this has worked, and I'll post some pics of that in action later.....

 

Cheers all

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One thing maybe you should mention Marc, is that this technique only really works with acrylic paint. I use it quite a bit on aircraft & military models, but when a friend who exclusively uses enamels tried it, the topcoat adamantly refused to come off & he was just left with lumpy paint!!

 

I love that piccie in your latest post!!

 

K

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Thanks again to everyone who has made positive comments re this little layout

Something I hadn't made too much mention of previously,

was that I experimented using salt to weather my overbridge...

 

As some of you might have guessed, I had a few pieces of the Wills Vari-Girder

OO bridge panels, which were left over from building Hendre (ages back!)

 

I built up the size of the panels, using offcuts of plasticard, and styrene strip,

to make the height more suitable for O - it's still a tad small, maybe,

but I didn't want the bridge to dominate the scene

 

Anyhow, I painted some rusty colours onto the finished bridge sides,

dusted with rusty weathering powders, and once dry,

I sprinkled salt on and then sprayed with some grey paint

 

Once this was dry, I simply washed the sides with water,

and hey presto - the salt came away leaving me with some nice peeling paint

 

However, I then continued to add weathering and grime,

and wished I hadn't gone so far, as some of the peeling paint effect had been lost.....

.... it it aint broke - don't fix it

Anyhow, it's a method I will explore further in future

 

On a slightly different topic,

I have mentioned to some that I continued the ballasting and overall weathering and scenery

into the sector plate, beyond the bridge...

I think this is one factor that helps this layout look a bit bigger than it is,

and helps to trick the observer into thinking there's more of the layout beyond the bridge,

as hopefully this view shows.....

 

As many folk know, I use mirrors as a similar visual trick

- there is a small piece of mirror on the front road of the sector plate....

I'm really pleased with how well this has worked, and I'll post some pics of that in action later.....

 

Cheers all

 

Hi Marc,

 

Really great work, I was going to ask how you constructed the girder-bridge - I have an old CCW (made by Heljan for them?) 7mm/1ft girder-bridge kit to use at some time, yet it is on the large side and it's sometimes nice to see locos squeezing under/through bridges as t adds greatly to the atmos. :)

 

 

Nice weathering too, I have found, when using enamels (good point Keefr2) :good: , that an old sponge, with it's irregular shapes (or those carved/fettled in) etc., when dipped in Maskol/Copydex et al, and dabbed on, also produces effects very akin to salt masks and can be very subtle if a fine sponge is used - Marmite can also be used (yet some modellers love it and some hate it - LOL - see what I did there....I will get me coat!!). :mosking:

 

ATVB

 

CME

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One thing maybe you should mention Marc, is that this technique only really works with acrylic paint. I use it quite a bit on aircraft & military models, but when a friend who exclusively uses enamels tried it, the topcoat adamantly refused to come off & he was just left with lumpy paint!!

 

I love that piccie in your latest post!!

 

K

 

Thanks Keefr,

I haven't tried this effect using enamels...

In fact, since discovering acrylics - courtesy of the games workshop

I haven't used enamel paints much at all - just to use some of them up really.....

 

I find acrylics speed up the rate at which I can paint a building, or item of stock

A military modelling pal of mine used to try to convince me to use them many years back

Oh how I wish I had listened...... :)

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Marc

 

I've read about the 'salt technique' before but never tried it. In fact, I raided the store cupboard but could only find the stuff you put in a grinder ....... I've now discovered some sea salt in the cook's cupboard (SWMBO) so will try that. I also now only use acrylics as I find faster drying time and paint mixing much easier.

 

Read the December issue of BRM (digital version) last night. Congratulations on the Poynton Sneer article - a really good read and very interesting. The layout looks terrific.

 

Stephen

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Hi Marc,

 

I too use the Games Workshop paints, yet sometimes find that only enamel will do, of course drying times with acrylics is quicker and one can always speed up the process with an old hair-dryer.

 

The Salt Mask technique works best with an airbrush, Maskol/Copydex et al. can be brush painted on - or sponged etc. - and then brush painted over with the secondary colour.

 

In great haste, ATVB

 

CME

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Hi all,

 

Just thought I'd mention Poynton Sneer is in the latest issue of British Railway Modelling https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/emoticons/default_smile3.gif

December issue

 

Cheers

Marc

 

A good article Marc, enjoyed the read.

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Also just enjoyed reading the article Marc. It reminded me that I still have a copy of your Hendre article tucked away somewhere amongst items kept for future reference!

 

Rob

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Thanks again for all the positive comments folks.....

 

If it weren't for rmweb, I'd never be publishing these articles,

and I think we all draw so much inspiration from each other on this forum

 

It may be a little bit of detailing, it may just be the start of experimenting with a new technique,

it may be an idea or a partial idea borrowed from someone else's layout,

but there's something on here for everyone, there's plenty of answers

to plenty of questions......

 

Anyhow, more pics of the fiddle yard which BRM didn't use.....

 

I continued a bit of the scenery underneath and beyond the bridge

(as in last pic posted) and was really pleased with this effect.....

 

At shows, some have spotted the piece of poly-mirror under the bridge....

 

The fiddle / sector plate has 2 roads, and is aligned in 2 positions

When slid to the front position, the roads are aligned with the front and middle roads on the layout

 

When the fiddle is set to the rear position,

the roads align with the middle road and rear road of the layout - nice & simple....

well, it is to me anyway ;)

 

When in this rear position, an offcut of poly-mirror slides into position,

to "hide" a small storage shelf attached to the sector-plate.....

 

The effect of this being that it creates a reflection of the track on the front road....

Again, it's just an illusion, and it only really tricks the eye for a few seconds....

but some folk take time to see it.... so it can be quite effective

 

Cheers again

Marc

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Hi Marc,

 

I enjoyed the article in BRM.

I've enjoyed viewing the layout at exhibitions (shame we can't get you to ours ....)

 

The 'scenic' fiddle yard does work well and certainly helps to 'loose' the scenic side to fiddle yard harsh joint.

 

I've not tried the salt technique myself, but have read a few articles in Narrow Gauge Shortline Gazzette (an American magazine - who have been streaks ahead scenically) and Narrow Gauge and Industrial Railway Modelling Review - issue 90 recently is worth seeking out.

 

I also like Games Workshop paints for weathering and painting figures (well I suppose that's what they are designed for). They do spray quite well and are easily mixed.

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Marc, I think the basic idea of "de-emphasising" the off stage tracks in the way you have is very worthwhile & you've done a convincing job. In my mind, making the off stage area less of a contrast to the on stage area means that people will take less notice of it - the eye isn't drawn to the area because it's not seeing something unexpected. Using the mirror as a further trick is just icing the cake! :)

 

.....it's just an illusion.....

 

I now have the 1982 song by Imagination going through my mind.... :O

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Marc, I think the basic idea of "de-emphasising" the off stage tracks in the way you have is very worthwhile & you've done a convincing job. In my mind, making the off stage area less of a contrast to the on stage area means that people will take less notice of it - the eye isn't drawn to the area because it's not seeing something unexpected. Using the mirror as a further trick is just icing the cake! https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/emoticons/default_smile3.gif

 

 

 

I now have the 1982 song by Imagination going through my mind.... https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/emoticons/default_shok.gif

 

Yes Ramblin Rich,

I had hoped the idea would work well

I know there seems to be a mirror on every layout I build

One day I'll surprise you all and build one without a mirror....

(Edit: When I've used up my supply)

 

I had completely forgotten about 1980's band Imagination.....

... but now you mention it, I'm thinking about the Human Leagues'

"Here comes the mirror man" ;)

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Yes Ramblin Rich,

I had hoped the idea would work well

I know there seems to be a mirror on every layout I build

One day I'll surprise you all and build one without a mirror....

(Edit: When I've used up my supply)

 

I had completely forgotten about 1980's band Imagination.....

... but now you mention it, I'm thinking about the Human Leagues'

"Here comes the mirror man" https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/emoticons/default_wink3.gif

Marc, didn't the band Imagination sing the Russian Aircraft Song.......Just and Iluyshun!!
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