Earl Bathurst Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Hi I am about to start laying track throught the staion on the layout and a thought i had last night how wide should i make the platform in the middle of the board? I am going to have a building on the platform (i did look at the Suburban Station Building) but means the platform will have to be quiet wide and the main building is on the other platformon the other side of the track so think i would only need a small waiting shelter there. Hope someone can offer the knowledge? Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 There needs to be a clear six feet between any building and the platform edge. Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Ardsley station in Yorkshire had a pretty slim platform, on the Leeds Doncaster main line.as in these pix http://www.flickr.com/photos/thanoz/4391153324/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/24041160@N02/2451286817/ Brit15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted May 19, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19, 2012 Depends a bit on the era when the station was built. As a rule of thumb, go for six feet minimum clear of obstructions from the edge. Some old ones were narrower, especially at the ends away from entrances. Island platforms would be much wider normally, but some taper off towards the ends depending on the track layout, speeds, usage, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary hill Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 This old thread of mine might have some additional useful information for you: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/40365-what-is-the-smallest-distance-permissable-between-permanent-platform-structures-and-the-platform-edge/page__fromsearch__1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Bathurst Posted May 19, 2012 Author Share Posted May 19, 2012 Thanks for the info. In 00 Gauge how can you work out what 6ft is in 00? And if i used the Suburban Station Building from Bachmann what size platform would i need? Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 In 00, 4mm=1ft, so 6ft=6x4=24mm, or just under 1 inch if you prefer old money. I can't help with that particular building though. Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 The scale for 00 is 4mm to a foot, so multiply your 6 by 4 and measure in millimetres. So far as the building goes, how big is it? I think you can check the Bachmann website just as easily as I can. Regards Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary hill Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 If it's Bachmann 44-073 measurements are 155mm long 85mm high and 110mm wide(but this includes the canopy width as well) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 I may be wrong be when the platform extensions were built at Grosmont many years ago the single face platform had to be a minimum of 6 feet and the island a minimum of 8 feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted May 19, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19, 2012 The old HMRI requirement for island platforms was 12 feet wide "for an adequate distance on either side of the centre of the length". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific231G Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I believe the current allowable minimum from platform edge to any structure is still 2 metres which is about 10% wider than the old six foot rule but existing stations have "grandfather rights". The minimum width for a single face platform is 2.5 metres and the absolute minimum for an island platform 4 metres but anything like a lighting pole or a seat would add a bit to that. For a building on an island platform you'd have to add the width of the building to the four metres. In 4mm scale 2 metres is a fraction more than an inch so a minimum of an inch is probably close enough but those minima would be a narrow platform and most especially on busy stations would be wider. On stations through which trains travel at more than 100MPH platforms have to be wider and things like lighting poles 3 metres from the platform edge. The 1995 infrastructure requirement for platforms which also goes into things like the design of end of platform ramps, fencing, canopies etc. are available on http://www.rgsonline.co.uk/Railway_Group_Standards/Infrastructure/Railway%20Group%20Standards/GCRT5161%20Iss%201.pdf and the structure gauging and clearances standard http://www.rgsonline.co.uk/Railway_Group_Standards/Infrastructure/Railway%20Group%20Standards/GCRT5204%20Iss%201.pdf has really useful diagrams of all the relevant dimensions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted May 20, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 20, 2012 Most real platforms were fairly wide but as we tend to shorten them to fit our layouts thinner ones may look better. However if you go below 6ft min from the buildings it tends to look to thin. Trial and error with some card may help. Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Bus Driver Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Winchelsea Halt on the Marshlink line has a pretty narrow platform. Really narrow actually. I certainly wouldn't like to be standing there when a fast train came through. See here: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ll=50.934127,0.702865&spn=0.001141,0.00327&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=50.934022,0.702893&panoid=ho-Z_b0rXG1Qh-_exRUv3A&cbp=12,241.75,,0,3.17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 It's a camera effect. The platform isn't really as narrow as it looks! (see the track). From the satellite view it appears roughly the same width as the train. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sheep Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 There needs to be a clear six feet between any building and the platform edge. Ed Depends when the layout is set / when the station was built. Wakefield Kirkgate lost it's island platform buildings due to the platform width wasn't enough. Unfortunately I can't remember the station in any other form than it's current state. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 The six-foot dimension on the platform has been in force for a long time and I think you'll find very few stations that don't comply with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidnutter Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 If you want a narrow platform. Try Winchester City at the country end of the station. Ive stood there when a freightliner has come belting down the bank. Id say go with what looks good to your eye as well if it looks to narrow then make it slightly wider? I have 3 island platforms in my terminus layout. All 3 measure at 3.5 inches wide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted May 20, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 20, 2012 The six-foot dimension on the platform has been in force for a long time and I think you'll find very few stations that don't comply with it. See Section B, Para 12 of the 1902 Requirements http://www.railwaysa...rements1902.pdf Anyone got an older reference? I expect there will be one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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