RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 21, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 21, 2012 No doubt about it in my mind - one of those nice GWR post-war Inspection saloons but as fitted out by some preservation folk with even nicer seats - and you'd get food & drink brought to your seat (but preferably on B4 bogies please). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 An Oerlikon EMU - what could be better? XF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirey33 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 There will be no opportunity to travel by rail for pleasure in 40 years time; H&S will see to that. Virtual reality will be the only way to recreate the nostalgic feeling and with advances in technology you'll be able to recreate every bump, every lurch, every whiff of steam or smut in the eye of every train train journey ever made from Stockton to Darlington to HS2.5. Me, I'll be sat in my i-ride deluxe experience chair enjoying my first class compo and class 47 on load 15 up the Highland mainline to Inverness, looking forward to the return journey when I fold my i-ride deluxe experience chair flat to re-create a BFK on the internal overnight to Edinburgh with a pair of class 26's (door closed, curtains drawn, bulbs out, window open) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Hi All, How about this for a future rail tour announcement then? Adelante Back to Paddington. The Class 180 Adelante Preservation Society will be rerunning the original  inaugural public revenue earning service of the type to celebrate 50 years since the type entered service on the Great Western Main Line. The Class 180 Group succeeded in preserving a complete unit after much negotiation with First Land & Space Travel Group. It has taken much work to restore the unit to its original condition over the last ten years. They have also fitted unit 180101 with the latest Artificial Intelligence (AI) driven signalling system and at a cost of £2,000,000. When asked about the money spent, Class 180 society chairman, Ian M. Batty, said: "At least we didn't have to pay the £4,000,000 and their first born child it is costing the steam guys out there these days! I think we have proved that Diesel Multiple Unit preservation is the way of the future." When asked about the groups motives and aims for the future, Mr Batty said that they "were keen that the sights, sounds and smells (particularly that noxious niff that came from the toilets on a hot day) of a class 180 should not be denied to future generations. It's ok looking at a full size hologram of one in your virtual reality room at home but this can't beat the real thing. We believe that being in touch with the real thing give us a connection to a time when things were made with traditional tools like CNC lathes and milling machines and not spat out on a 3D printer. It keeps these and other vital heritage skills, such as ordering parts by hand out of a catalogue over the Internet, alive." When asked if 180101 would be changing liveries any time soon, Mr Batty said: let us get the 50th anniversary out of the way first. I know that there are a lot of people out here that would love to see and photograph her in Grand Central black. This will not be for at least a couple of years though. We feel it only right that we recognise the contribution made to this project by First. In the future however, who knows?" When asked about it's role in the event, the AI computer now on board 180101 said "I've got a brain the size of a planet and I end up doing this. It's not funny being stored at the museum depot for weeks on end when all you want to do is get out and smell the roses. At least you flesh bags can get off at the stations. That it would come to this. I used to be in charge of a space airliner you know! I've been to Mars! God help me... Go away and leave me alone." I'll get my coat... All the best, Castle PS : the last paragraph is of course posted with an nod to and due reverence for the late, great, Douglas Adams. PPS: I would have loved a go on the GWS Vintage Train. Imagine that with 4079 out front singing away at 75 mph... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWallace Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Just give me a pair of goggles and a chair mounted to the top of a 100T TEA pulled by a 66 and I'll be more than happy M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Triang Paul Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 i get the feeling nobody realy wants air-con by the above posts......... ! Mk1 FK with orange curtains, horsehair/spring seats and hot feet but cold nose. Lights on dim, Sulzer up-front. Moonlit snow........ . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welly Posted May 23, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2012 (edited) Loved the mark 1 SKs when they ran the Network Expresses from Newbury to London in the late 1980s - the wooden panellings - ah! I actually like riding in an air con mark 2d when the air con is working(!) - I quite liked the sound of the dynamic brakes.... Pacers belongs to the Beamish museum together with the Victorian 4 wheelers! Edited May 23, 2012 by Welly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzy280472 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Seems the old mk1 coach was pretty popular ! The over varnished wood around the window frames with that little groove along the bottom where you could leave your spotting pen ! I can remember thinking that the window frame companies must have been making a fortune from BR with all those mk1/2s everywhere , i think the company names were Widney and Beclewat or something , Its amazing to think i havent thought of those names for years and this thread jogged my memory !!!!!! Regards Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 i get the feeling nobody realy wants air-con by the above posts......... ! Mk1 FK with orange curtains, horsehair/spring seats and hot feet but cold nose. Lights on dim, Sulzer up-front. Moonlit snow........ . Swap the Sulzer for a Thousand or a D800 at Temple Meads and I'll bag a compo.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43110andyb Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 A heaton allocated MK2 in Trans-pennine livery, a trusty, spotlessly clean Gateshead 47 and off we go!!! hopefully..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted May 23, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2012 Great Northern Railway (Ireland) K15, but with modern glass in the wiindows for when the train passes certain stone throwing black spots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted May 24, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 24, 2012 A few, note no BR1 bogies!!!! Mark 2D FK for compartment and comfort Mark 1 FO as SO for real world room and view Mark 3 TFO for high speed travel - want Paxmans Steam service, I like the Collett Sunshine stock and also Gresley Teak stock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 24, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2012 It's interesting to see how popular BR Mk1 coaches remain - I wonder if it's because they're what folk grew up with or if they offer something better (opening windows, compartments, steam heat?) than later builds ? Or is just because folk associate them with particular journeys behind certain types of traction and they're rolling that into the 'complete experience'? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 (edited) Nail hit firmly on the head there Mike... difficult to seperate one from the other really, as the sights, sounds and smells are all part of the 'picture' and can transport you instantly to another time and place. I think the closest thing I've ever experienced on a preserved line to certain 'real railway' memories is riding in a steam heated Mk1 compartment behind 47 105 on the Glos & Warks line on a rain lashed late December evening.... or even better, a pitch dark late evening run behind Warship D821 on the SVR last October with the top vents wide open.... glorious, even at the regulation 25mph going up hill. I was born just too late to experience Warship haulage on the mainline, but on that particular night I got a small taste of what a night time assault on Dainton bank or the Glynn Valley must have sounded like c1971. Edited May 24, 2012 by Rugd1022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Triang Paul Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I prefer to travel mark 1 nomatter whats upfront........ . People do like thier opening windows and comfy seats on a train ( and bus for that matter) . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combe Martin Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 On 20/05/2012 at 18:36, Penrhos1920 said: My neighbours have just returned from holiday and spent a fare amount of time travelling around Scotland in Mk1s with steam haulage. Now my preferred coach for a railtour or preserved railway would be something a bit older, say a pre-grouping 4 or 6 wheeler or a GWR toplight. Given that most of us probably would prefer to travel in something that evokes youthful nostalgia what would you like to be travelling in on a railtour in 40 years time? Will the youth of today be wanting Pacers and Sprinters? Well I'll probably be long dead and buried by then, but my favourite would be a Maunsell Open 3rd (either type) as used on the Bluebell Railway, with the new Gresley P2 up front. That'll be old by then too ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesperus Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 For me it would be an air conditioned mk2 like the first time I rode on a loco hauled train. I used to hang around Durham station in the mid 90s and one day D9000 turned up on the 4:30pm Virgin Cross Country service to Newcastle after the 47 had failed at Crewe, Not expecting to get that chance again me and a friend happily bought cheap day returns for about £3.50 each. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Goat Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 A Mk1 corridor coach. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Goat Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) Actually scrub that. My favourite train to work and travel in was and is the class 143 when they had the thinner floors and the bus type seating. They were fast and thrilling to ride! Never tried a 144. Also worked 142's but they lacked the character of the 143 and I found 142's too soft and bouncy. I know this was supposed to be about coaches... But 143's are sort of coaches! Edited June 9, 2020 by Mountain Goat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnofwessex Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 4REP power car doing the ton through the New Forest (Did that once by mistake!!) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Mk2 pv with comfy seats and windows you can stick your head out of. Hate the modern H&S sealed air con plastic poo tubes that help spread germs. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penrhos1920 Posted June 9, 2020 Author Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, johnofwessex said: 4REP power car doing the ton through the New Forest (Did that once by mistake!!) Class 309 doing a ton UP Brentwood Bank. I used to time them on their Liverpool St to Chelmsford non-stop runs. One evening we would have done Chelmsford in about 25 minutes (normally 29 in the mid-afternoon slots and 31 during rush hour). It turned out that the East Anglian that we normally followed was delayed so we had greens all the way, not the usual amber or double ambers out of Liverpool St. The driver must have known it and thought he'd put his foot down. I guess he was hoping to get to Witham where the East Anglian could pass. Unfotunately we were looped outside Ingatestone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Goat Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 I can't go in coaches with air conditioning for long. Somehow I struggle. Occasionally I will find air conditioning that I get on with. It is like cars. Though my current cars air conditioning does not work and I have not te funds to get it looked at. (Never worked since I bought the car secondhand but it was well looked after and serviced apart from that and a few things which needed changing through lack of use e.g. tyres etc). Only one car I have had had air conditioning that I got on with and that was an Audi, and even then I often just preferred to open the windows instead. The strange thing is with that car is whatever I did to it and however I drove it, it always gave me exactly 35mpg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted June 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 9, 2020 On 23/05/2012 at 17:05, Cornish Triang Paul said: i get the feeling nobody realy wants air-con by the above posts......... ! Mk1 FK with orange curtains, horsehair/spring seats and hot feet but cold nose. Lights on dim, Sulzer up-front. Moonlit snow........ . I do. With large opening windows now banned by the ORR on the national network, non air conditioned trains can get uncomfortably warm during sunny weather (like what we just had in May). The big bug-bear for me is the lousy seating fitted to modern trains. Given decent seating an Electrostar or a Desiro would be a pretty good unit. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted June 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mountain Goat said: I can't go in coaches with air conditioning for long. Somehow I struggle. Occasionally I will find air conditioning that I get on with. It is like cars. Though my current cars air conditioning does not work and I have not te funds to get it looked at. (Never worked since I bought the car secondhand but it was well looked after and serviced apart from that and a few things which needed changing through lack of use e.g. tyres etc). Only one car I have had had air conditioning that I got on with and that was an Audi, and even then I often just preferred to open the windows instead. The strange thing is with that car is whatever I did to it and however I drove it, it always gave me exactly 35mpg. The usual issue with air con is humidity - if set wrongly and the air is too dry it can cause issues with the throat and nasal passages suffering drying out - which in turn can cause headaches etc. This can be made worse if the body is subjected to sudden changes - fairly humid outside but ‘dry’ air inside. Making sure you drink plenty of liquid in small does to help moisten the airways and can help. Obviously there is also an individual element - no two human bodies are exactly the same. Edited June 9, 2020 by phil-b259 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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