woodenhead Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Over on New Railway Modellers saw a thread by someone (only 3 posts) proposing to build a Gauge 1 diesel and after 2 days of polling has decided to offer a class 52 Gauge 1 kit and soon you'll be able to order any diesel! There is even a website (of sorts). Question: real offering or someone with ideas beyond their capability? There is nothing here to indicate the skills of the proposer or any indication on price. http://www.tgmodels.moonfruit.com/# http://www.newrailwaymodellers.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=38238&sid=8865d20c2ee4778fb94c7ebc1044b188 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugsley Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Given that the name of the person behind the enterprise changes from Tom to George in 5 posts, I suspect it's someone living in Cloud Cuckoo Land. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welly Posted June 9, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 9, 2012 The word "moonfruit" in the web address makes me somewhat prejudiced without even clicking on the link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Graff Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Seems a bit strange to say the least...... And £400??? A bit too cheap to be really viable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 If the product existed, surely it would be useful to have a few pictures - even of the unpainted basic model, test shots or even CAD drawings? I can't tell much about their modelling skills from that site but I can tell a lot about their web skills and marketing skills... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike Bellamy Posted June 9, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 9, 2012 The word "moonfruit" in the web address makes me somewhat prejudiced without even clicking on the link. I did a Google search and it's actually a web hosting and design site Followed the link and saw this All our Gauge 1 Locos are Powered by Electric Motors Which run from Electricity Passing Through the Track Now I know I'm not an active modeller and I'm certainly not an electrical engineer - but how else would the power get there - it's not as if there's going to be a nuclear power station built into the loco - or does it run with a flex and 13amp plug on - it doesn't mention voltage - I just hope he's not going to suggest 240v Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 I thought the same Mike, then thought perhaps there are alternatives at Gauge 1. The spelling seems very.... lets say Nigerian? I could be being harsh though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 I thought the same Mike, then thought perhaps there are alternatives at Gauge 1. On board battery and radio control is common in the larger scales, particularly those designed for outdoor railways - saves a lot of hassle track cleaning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Now I know I'm not an active modeller and I'm certainly not an electrical engineer - but how else would the power get there - it's not as if there's going to be a nuclear power station built into the loco - or does it run with a flex and 13amp plug on - it doesn't mention voltage - I just hope he's not going to suggest 240v To be fair many Gauge 1 are live steam - so perhaps the alternative would be powered by an on board kettle ? Or are battery powered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste234 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Yes, there are a few with batteries, much easier than track powered outside! If he can build decent models for that price, he should do well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Seems an odd way to go about it though. OK the web is a wonderful and possibly cheap place to get your product out there. Personally I would have gone to the magazines and got them to give the product the once over... before you go onto the web. It most certainly would have given your prodct some form of positive airing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 10, 2012 Author Share Posted June 10, 2012 They've had their posts pruned for gratuitous advertising, there's a facebook page as well now - will have to seek it out. I actually hope they are for real and something good comes at the end, but I do find the approach to market interesting, but then not every good modeller is a good marketer and not every good marketer is a modeller. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 10, 2012 Author Share Posted June 10, 2012 Found the Facebook page - even less than the 'free' website - methinks they are not really taking things seriously. https://www.facebook.com/pages/TG-Models-Ltd/456127147749344 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 I am sure they will sell loads of models at £400, how many will be delivered is another thing. As for the profit on a £400 gauge 1 model? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev_Lewis Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 The complete lack of photo's makes me a little concerned. You would have thought they'd have a photo of a test build at least. Makes me wonder about the quality of the product. The phrase "you get what you pay for" is rarely wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushType4 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Well I don't know if it's genuine or not, but I do know that TG Models Ltd is not a listed company and not to be confused with T & G Models which is something completely different.... I would get a little (a lot) more information before handing over any cash.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 This is what the IT Industry calls "vapour-ware" - selling a product that doesn't exist yet. I would have started with something a little easier than the Western - all of those compound curves seem to have defeated several previous 4mm manufacturers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d600 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Think its another scam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryF Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 All of these comments seam to ignore the fact that the company TG Models Limited has not been registered at companies house and therefore does not exist and that the web page does not list any address or telephone number, directors, registered office and company number now being required to be displayed on web sites. This is most likely to be a scam with the intention of getting people to add their names and addresses thus providing those people with a ready list of addresses to target for high value model thefts. Anyone filling out their web page should consider if they are adequately insured for their models and their security is sufficient to insure that their insurers cannot say they invited the theft by filling out the web page and avoid cover. Without much more infomation on their page and using a company that does exist this can only be presumed to be fraudulent in nature surely anyone serious about such things would have real names and contact details. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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