Chris Nevard Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Model Rail 171, July 2012..... Subs copies will tend to arrive from tomorrow depending on the postal service. Over the counter copies will hit the high street later this week. Intro page.... Model Rail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted June 10, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 10, 2012 Looking forward to seeing 'Sheep Pasture' particularly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CullingworthGNR Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 I agree, looking forward to this one. Anything to do with the Cromford and High Peak is always worth a read, and the photo referencing page 74 is fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 11, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 11, 2012 Nice issue with some good articles , must have a careful read of Polbrock! The Sheep Pasture pics are superb and show the layout to excellent advantage. Shame Mr Dibber is on his hols but no doubt we'll have pics from Canada to look forward to in the next edition. But a couple of queries - firstly i do wonder about advising folk to put power supplies to a shed (near to the house) in copper pipe, it's far more difficult to seal or make joints to than proper conduit and there ought really to be a reference to need for an RCD although the advice to consult an electrician is made loud and clear. And my final comment is similar to the one I have made about 'Hornby Magazine'; this issue of MR has 84 pages of editorial content (ie. editorial, articles, and the contents pages) but 20 of them are given over to reviews and new model etc announcements including anouncements about announcements. So I ask the same questions here as I did when talking about HM - is the printed model railway magazine media going a bit too far in devoting space to this sort of thing? Here it amounts to almost a quarter of the 'contents' part of the magazine and while I'm well aware that not everybody has access to the internet do the printed mags really need to be 'spending' their editorial space to this extent in this area? Just a heretical (perhaps?) thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I agree wholeheartedly with Stationmaster about the large slice of announcements. However, if they were not there one would not come across little gems like this relating to the Garratt commissioned by a well-known Liverpool emporium: "There will also be operational oil headlamps, a first for a ready to run steam outline model" Will purchasers have to lift the lamps off the brackets to light and refill them? Then there is this, worthy of Pseud's Corner in Private Eye, on the subject of Bachmann's DP2: "It looked like a Deltic, but had the 16-cylinder heart of what would later become Class 50." The article on decorating containers is most interesting but since when has "decaling" been a verb? Lose a mark there, Dent. I was also wondering how many of us keep candles in the house, for we are advised to anneal brass by holding it in a candle flame. Fear not, fellow detailers: a gas flame wil do the job just as well and the brass will reach the desired shade of cherry red rather more quickly. It is high time I stopped nit-picking and proffered praise where due. The three layouts featured are so different one from another but together make an excellent set. Sheep Pasture deserves the centre spread photo and builder Robin Whittle's text is clear and concise. Paul Rolley's Waun-gron Park captures the prototype incredibly well and merits praise for the way in which it has been compressed - an incredibly difficult thing to do well. The circular and compact MiniMSW was at Railex and I remember admirirng the overhead wires, little realising that it used commercial parts. The feature on weathering with Modelmates' dyes is comprehensive but contains one telling line: "The jars are a direct fit onto [which was two words when I was at skool!] a number of siphon-fed airbrushes ... However, as I write, Modelmates is now moving over to plastic flip-top 20ml pots". This evolution gets everywhere. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Scottish Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Hornby Mag stole a march this month by coming out one week earlier, but as far as I can see we can expect Model Rail, Railway Modeller and BRM all to hit newsagents at the same time. Is this wise? BRM is, of course , going to have MI in it this month and I tend to find a lot more reading in RM than MR , so I suspect that MR will lose out this month. Hasn't the MSW layout appeared elsewhere before? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I'm going to disagree with Mike and Chris. Though I suspect reviews and announcements certainly help to sell advertising space, it is this content that is likely to have greatest longevityy for me and I'll refer back to when condering future purchases (along with more "hands on" reviews here). Sadly the days when British railway modelling magazines featured accurate prototype articles and scale drawings have largely passed and nowadays the focus is on emptying the contents of various boxes in a way that sort of resembles a real railway (not necessarily a bad thing, and suits me). Model Rail has established a niche for offering good reviews (let down by the occasional mistake and lack of corrections and apologies). As to "announcements of announcements", these are useful (where not too excessive), and usually more reliable than some of the wishing and speculation that sometimes adds to the "noise" on these fora. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PaulCheffus Posted June 12, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 12, 2012 Hasn't the MSW layout appeared elsewhere before? Hi Yes it has but you can never have too much Woodhead Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted June 12, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 12, 2012 Not sure Alan will be too pleased with MSW electrics being described as N on the cover - they are 2FS. That said, looking forward to reading a copy. Jerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky W Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Hasn't the MSW layout appeared elsewhere before? So has Sheep Pasture - I wonder where? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 12, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 12, 2012 I'm going to disagree with Mike and Chris. Though I suspect reviews and announcements certainly help to sell advertising space, it is this content that is likely to have greatest longevityy for me and I'll refer back to when condering future purchases (along with more "hands on" reviews here). Sadly the days when British railway modelling magazines featured accurate prototype articles and scale drawings have largely passed and nowadays the focus is on emptying the contents of various boxes in a way that sort of resembles a real railway (not necessarily a bad thing, and suits me). Model Rail has established a niche for offering good reviews (let down by the occasional mistake and lack of corrections and apologies). As to "announcements of announcements", these are useful (where not too excessive), and usually more reliable than some of the wishing and speculation that sometimes adds to the "noise" on these fora. Nice to have a different viewpoint Eddie. 'Model Rail' reviews remain - I think - the best in the printed model railway media and i don't argue with your point that they have value both now and in the future. It's just that we seem to get more and more of all this 'first pics of' and 'XYZbymann have announced.....' or are going to announce and so on. In one way its I good to see what gives every appearance of a vibrant manufacturing trade supporting our hobby but does it need such extensive coverage prior to review? Perhaps I'm getting fed up with seeing things several times over because I buy a number of the mags but MR is not the only one that seems to follow this course although some others don't go overboard in quite the same way. Maybe it's fair enough if a mag keeps up a consistent level of editorial content in terms of articles and 'how to,s' etc but at times I get the impression that some place greater importance or emphasis on trying to be 'first' with this sort of 'news'. Sorry but in the age of the internet they are never going to achieve that even if many of their readers don't have 'net access - maybe they need to start thinking about the way they should approach the publishing future? (And I wonder what percentage of 'solid' UK model railway magazine readers don't have some sort of 'net access? In 2011 according to the ONS 19 million (77% of) British households had access to the internet and 66% of all adults made purchases via the 'net. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted June 12, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 12, 2012 So has Sheep Pasture - I wonder where? Both in MRJ Jerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugsley Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 IIRC, Mini MSW has also been featured in Rail Express Modeller. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky W Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Both in MRJ Jerry I was thinking more about Sheep Pasture being in BRM.......! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted June 12, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 12, 2012 I was thinking more about Sheep Pasture being in BRM.......! As discussed at length on other threads, this thing isn't uncommon. Nothing to get excited about! Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I particularly liked Waun-gron Park - amazing detail in such a small space. Haven't had a full in-detail look yet as it only arrived yesterday but seems a good magazine as usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Nevard Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 A couple of out takes. Sheep Pasture - bucolic Derbyshire at its best.... Waun-gron Park - a warts and all slice of the Cardiff burbs... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted June 12, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 12, 2012 I'm on page 54! Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I'm on page 54! Yep, very nice - well done. But it could have been page 20 of 'UPDate' . G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crosland Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Nice issue with some good articles , must have a careful read of Polbrock! The Sheep Pasture pics are superb and show the layout to excellent advantage. Shame Mr Dibber is on his hols but no doubt we'll have pics from Canada to look forward to in the next edition. But a couple of queries - firstly i do wonder about advising folk to put power supplies to a shed (near to the house) in copper pipe, it's far more difficult to seal or make joints to than proper conduit and there ought really to be a reference to need for an RCD although the advice to consult an electrician is made loud and clear. Agreed, not good advice. Where did the description of coreless motors in the Farish review come from? It's total gobbledygook (and that's being polite!). Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrowroad Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 I was thinking more about Sheep Pasture being in BRM.......! As the owner and builder of Sheep Pasture I can confirm an article has also appeared in MRJ - 181 and 182 to be precise- and has definitely not featured in BRM or any other magazine. Thanks for the kind comments and in particular to Chris for a superb set of photos. Sheep Pasture is due to make it's next appearance at St Albans next January. Robin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfwit Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 I'm sure I've seen that 'layout that never leaves home' on the exhibition circuit... Nit picking aside, it looks like to be an interesting issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I'm back now. Backscene will return next issue and there are some Canadian photos posted on rmweb under the USA and Canadian Railways heading. As far as layouts which have been in MRJ are concerned - with the exception of a handful of readers (several on here included) - Model Rail reaches an entirely different, and much wider, audience. In addition, of course, the illustrations are all new and in colour. CHRIS LEIGH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 As far as layouts which have been in MRJ are concerned - with the exception of a handful of readers (several on here included) - Model Rail reaches an entirely different, and much wider, audience. In addition, of course, the illustrations are all new and in colour. CHRIS LEIGH Not only that, but in this instance they are accompanied by some excellent text on how it was done. I found the notes about the bracken very informative. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrowroad Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Not only that, but in this instance they are accompanied by some excellent text on how it was done. I found the notes about the bracken very informative. Bernard For anyone who would like further information on the larger trees I made for Sheep Pasture here are some notes and photos I posted on RMweb Showcase a while back. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/showcase/?p=2331 Robin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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