marc smith Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 Hi Richard,Great to hear from you again sirYour habits obviously rubbed off, on me.... I'm always on the lookout for bits of scrap metal on the pavement these daysI well recall at Taunton, every time you saw a piece of interesting looking tiny bits of scrapyou bent down & snatched it up quicker than I would have done if it were a pound coin! See you @ market HarboroughMarc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
0121modeller Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Glad I came across this inspireing thread via a forum search, as I'm modelling a similar railway scrapyard project Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Bathurst Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Hi Marc Layout is looking superb What did you use for the ballast on the track? Look forward to more pictures of the layout Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted May 29, 2013 Author Share Posted May 29, 2013 Hi Scott, I did my usual re ballasti.e. I use N gauge fine woodland scenicsI keep the OO sized ballast for O gaugeTo my eye, this method seems to work wellas I find most ballast is a tad overscale.....The ballast is deliberately a bit "thin" in areas of Cahmores yard though....There's quite a lot of general "muck" in there too....I've used a mixture of PVA, DAS and black powder paint / weathering powders..... I'm fairly pleased with this effect I've painted it, using acrylics, but quite a lot of decorators match pots - mainly grey-ish colours Chris Nevard uses decorators match pots quite a lot and I have to say, I'm pleased with the effects you can getAlso, if you make sure your previous coats of paint are dry,you can blend the colours quite nicely......... I used my fingers to rub much of the top coat off, and soften any edges.....Cheers again Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Cue more ramblings . . . . . . Other BR (SR) items of interest that made a one-way trip to Cashmores, Newport included:- . The last steam locos I recall leaving the SR for Cashmores, Newport were probably 34034, 34102 & 35023 which left Salisbury on 30/03/1968. . Cl.70 - 20002 left Brighton for Newport on 21/07/1969, followed by 20001 on 08/08/1969. (20003 was bought by Cohen's of Cransley,Kettering) . Ex-SR - 15203 which left Norwood Jct. for Cashmores 14/04/1966. . Cl.12 - 15226 & 15233 which left Eastleigh on 19/11/1969. . Departmental No.52 also arrived at Cashmores, by rail on a low loader, from Woking after being moved south (IIRC from West Hartlepool) for PW work in connection with the Bournemouth electrification - but, spotter gossip at the time suggested the buffer beams fouled the new third rail. . Brian R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold mudmagnet Posted May 29, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 29, 2013 I've found some of the tester pots are good for track weathering etc - assuming you use the correct shades! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 I've found some of the tester pots are good for track weathering etc - assuming you use the correct shades! Hi Richard, I haven't tried the match pots for track weathering... Are they hard wearing enough? and do they need some form of keying, or primer? I've used them on landscaping and buildings mainly Also, folks, don't forget Cashmores will be at the Newport show this weekend, 1st and 2nd June, in the old Odeon cinema It's a fascinating place to visit, with all the old projectors, film posters and memorabilia It also houses a lot of railwayana too But there will also be a slide show during the exhibition Cheers again Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold mudmagnet Posted May 30, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 30, 2013 Hi Richard, I haven't tried the match pots for track weathering... Are they hard wearing enough? and do they need some form of keying, or primer? I've used them on landscaping and buildings mainly Also, folks, don't forget Cashmores will be at the Newport show this weekend, 1st and 2nd June, in the old Odeon cinema It's a fascinating place to visit, with all the old projectors, film posters and memorabilia It also houses a lot of railwayana too But there will also be a slide show during the exhibition Cheers again Marc I've had no problems using the match pots - being water based, I've just mixed them to create varying shades. Also, I've tended to thin the paint with water and wash over the ballast. I also mixed with acrylic gloss medium to create 'wet / oily' areas. Hope the show goes ok. Unfortunately can't get there this weekend - off to Exeter show instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danemouth Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Marc, Enjoyed seeing Cashmores an Newport yesterday - to your usual high standard! Regards, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 Thanks Dave,It was quite busy, especially on the Saturday....I like this show, it's new, it's in a very different venue, and with all the railwayana on the upstairs galleryIt's a nice setting and feel to the showTheir numbers were up, on last years' figures, and I hope it will growand evolve into something even betterThe only trouble I had, was that there were a few "niggles" with the layout;floor levels and couplings mainly - and the organisers had left me in charge of a couple of tables of 2nd hand booksThis left me unable to chat to either set of punters successfullyso appologies if I seemed a tad distracted...Gladly, they took the books away laterand left me to ramble, bluff & waffle A huge thanks to a couple of gents who gave me some really useful info on Cashmoresespecially the chap who worked there for 20 odd years! Edit; I'm really pleased with the wooden fence at the backAnd I must now add the metal supports / strengthening baracketswhich I will probably bend up, from square-section fine brass rod..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 46444 Posted June 3, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2013 Hi Marc, Glad you had a good show and Cashmores was well received. This latest set of photos really set the scene. The Class 22 reflected in the puddle is very atmospheric. Great stuff ans keep the photos coming. Cheers, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 It was quite busy, especially on the Saturday.... ..................................and the organisers had left me in charge of a couple of tables of 2nd hand books Gladly, they took the books away later Yes, the organisers put them next to us and Castle Works. . But att least I got an old Bradford Barton album "Western Region Diesel Hydraulics" for the £2.50 I proferred ........ less than the cost of a magazine, and some nice shots I haven't seen before. . Marc, are you interested in a sketch of the 'tool' I knocked up to make baled scrap ? . Brian R . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 Yes, the organisers put them next to us and Castle Works. . But att least I got an old Bradford Barton album "Western Region Diesel Hydraulics" for the £2.50 I proferred ........ less than the cost of a magazine, and some nice shots I haven't seen before. . Marc, are you interested in a sketch of the 'tool' I knocked up to make baled scrap ? . Brian R . Yes, I spotted the fact that they moved the books to your corner.... I envied Paul's roundy-roundy layout It meant he could sit & have a read, while the rest of us were pi****g about with couplings & shunting manoeuvres I was annoyed with myself re the books, because I missed some real crackers, which went for a song! Anyhow, if it's not too much trouble I'd like to see that tool for making baled scrap Of course, we really should be doing a regional pub-nite so you could bring it along..... Or are you at Brain T's forthcoming slide show? Anyway, great to see you sir Glad you made it to the show Cheers again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold mudmagnet Posted June 3, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2013 Looking great Marc! Are you taking this to Minehead in August? I will also drop you a pm later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share Posted June 4, 2013 Looking great Marc! Are you taking this to Minehead in August? I will also drop you a pm later. Thanks Mudmagnet, Yes, I am taking it to Minehead in August If Dave forgives me for being so late with the booking form Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Hi Marc Cohens of Kettering had piles of wagons stacked alongside the sidings, have photos of piles of 16 tonne mineral wagons. Also they dealt with hundreds of vans, must explain why every farmers field in Northamptonshire has a van body in it. Slightly off topic, worked with a ex Wellingborough fireman who remembers working a train of ex works 16 tonne coal wagons direct from repairs at Wigston wagon shop straight to Cohens for scrap. They had been condemned during maintanance and sold for scrap, Cohens would sell brand new buffers and bearings back to BR ! He also told me about delivering a rake of parcel vans into the yard for scrap, whilst they made a cup of tea the workers opened the doors to set them on fire to burn of the wooden bodies only to discover they were full of mail sacks ! Keep up the good work, Richard i grew up minutes away from Cohens scrap yard, but by then it only had cars in, my first car ended up there before it shut and became an un used tarmac trading estate. Great Layout Marc, excellent detail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungus the Fogeyman Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 So did I ess1uk. Being a Broughton boy I used to cross the bridge on the school bus to and from Kettering every day in the 70's. I can remember the clouds of clag the old yard shunter used to kick out first thing. I think Cohens lads used to get it started and then get a cuppa while it 'warmed up'! Disgusting of Market Harborough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 Just a couple of quick shots, taken with my tablet last night...I've mentioned before that I found a couple of old tenderswhich were from Airfix kits I built as a teenager - a few years ago now Anyhow, the 1st thing I had to do with these, was to cut out the moulded coal loadAn example of this is on the left hand side of the 2 photos... Sadly, a couple of these tenders need more work in getting them to run reliably- I suspect a couple of new chasis need to be builtA couple of the others seem to run fine though The tender on the right is one I bought secondhand, quite cheaply and in my hast to get it running for the Newport show I opted to save time, and not cut the coal out...Instead I simply painted the coal black, drybrushed it with metallic paintand topped up the load with odds & ends of scrap It just occurred to me that this was something a little different - an old tender, full of rubbish, effectively being a temporary scrap wagonI have no idea whether this happened at either of Cashmore's sites but I do recall seeing a couple of old oil drums and other rusty metallic debrisin a tender, while clambering over the locos at Barry I faded the green paintwork, added some rust & streaksand am quite pleased with what only took a very short time Anyhow, enough rambling.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 As Per Brian, br2975's suggestionsThe class 04 has been repainted, albeit not 100% finished yetPerhaps it needs to be a slightly darker shade of blue? It needs a bit of "tweaking" - mainly the pickups, which seem to short in 1 or 2 spots on the layout... Thanks to Brian Tucker for posting a link to his photo of D2244 Amazing to think he snapped it, just across the way from Cashmores In this condition! - i.e. no number or emblem / logo Thanks indeed to the 2 Brians Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I love this layout. So atmospheric. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 Thanks Daniel, Here's another shot, this time I thought it might look good in B&W.. The only 2 figures on the layout.... so far Stood in front of "Octopus Bridge" I had wondered why there was a girder bridge at the site, and why it had apparently been "filled in" At the recent Newport show, a former worker at Cashmores told me; The amusingly named Octopus Bridge was so called because from an aerial perspective,there were 3 roads, 1 walkway and several railway tracks branching out from the top of the bridge The bridge and the arches were filled in with brick and several of them, including the bridge had metal doors installed These areas, effectively under the road, were used for storage of higher value scrap metals,such as brass & copper... "I didn't know that" - I told the former Cashmores employee "No, no-one did! - we didn't want anyone knowing that" was his reply I now know I need a doorway in that wall, and one or 2 of the arches From what few photos I've seen, the arches with doorways were mainly to the left of this scene I'd better get me scalpel or dremmel out! Don't forget, Cashmores is appearing tomorrow at the Lord & Butler show,in the old pumping station antiques centre, for their charity weekend Appologies, but I can't make both days I'll just be there on the Saturday... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Love the 'oil slicks', and all the little scenic items, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne 37901 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Hi Marc, It was good to see you and some of the gang yesterday. I went back today for another look at the show before going to my parent's for Fathers Day. Cashmores is looking good, I think you have captured the look of a working scrap yard very well and it was nice to see some old 16t minerals being banged about in the yard as well, I'll be following this with interest. Well I wont ramble on, just thought I'd say a few words. PS: I'll be in touch about the pictures being taken if you still dont mind doing it? Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted June 17, 2013 Author Share Posted June 17, 2013 Hi Marc, It was good to see you and some of the gang yesterday. I went back today for another look at the show before going to my parent's for Fathers Day. Cashmores is looking good, I think you have captured the look of a working scrap yard very well and it was nice to see some old 16t minerals being banged about in the yard as well, I'll be following this with interest. PS: I'll be in touch about the pictures being taken if you still dont mind doing it? Cheers, Hi Wayne, Yes, nice to see you & have a chat at the L&B show on Saturday too Of course, no problems re those photos you want taking - you're more than welcome Re the minerals, it's another curiosity of my questionable personality I like beaten up, rusty old wagons too.... oh dear! Here are a couple of said vehicles, loaded with all manner of metal rubbish and looking as if they won't be making the return journey from whence they came! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytrains Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Marc. What a great little layout you have produced. It Oozes realistic claggy atmosphere and is simple. I like the use of the puddles as mirrors. Love the bashed about wagons, so typical of the era. Keep up the good work. Andy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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